im the only one hate people get first kill with unsync?

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Originally Posted by silverlunarfox

LIES!!! A former FC member is living proof this is not always the case.

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lol that's why I chose my words carefully, "more likely" keeps me anecdotally safe

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I don't think one specific anecdotal example is enough to enough to disprove the whole "most likely better understanding" claim

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Actually I think it is, given RC runs still fail, even old WoD runs and old dungeon runs. People have done all of the content before synced/unsynced and can still fail. Knowing the fight doesnt mean youll be better. Knowing the fight doesnt mean you'll remember mechanics. Synced Unsynced it really doesnt matter. Some people just can't be taught. I've run into quite a few, I just used ONE for an example. But I could write pages on how people fight and go into dungeons and the like.

Synced doesnt mean you know anything more than the person who Unsynced it, esp considering most mechanics in old content, are always recycled in new.

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lol that's why I chose my words carefully, "more likely" keeps me anecdotally safe

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XP mostly safe. Until you meet that one guy that proves you wrong with a stack aoe that shouldn't be there... (RC fun as always)

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Are you suggesting if I took two theoretical players, both starting the game rn, and have one run every piece of content up to current stuff synced and the other do it all unsynced, that there would be zero appreciable difference in their skill level or their ability to clear the new content?

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Originally Posted by Chronons

Are you suggesting if I took two theoretical players, both starting the game rn, and have one run every piece of content up to current stuff synced and the other do it all unsynced, that there would be zero appreciable difference in their skill level or their ability to clear the new content?

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No, I do not think so. Mechanics are good, but its reliant as well on a players natural skill and willingness not just to learn what theyre running but learn their class as well. Since everyone is different to start with. No. I ran everything synced, and my friends who started later unsynced, and theyre just as good as I am since they learn fast, and learn well. I'm running currently with someone who just started just before stormblood. They run great with the new content.

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You are avoiding the point of my question so ill rephrase it.

If I take two identical theoretical players, have one run all the content synced and one run all the content unsynced, do you believe they will be of an equal skill level at the end of such a test?

Another thing I don't get.

In ff11 it was a point of pride to say you could low man something or better yet solo it. In this game there is a whole leader board for POTD solo, with ranking and everything. Why not add something like that to other content as well. Like a speed run, JP typically like speed runs. That opens up a whole new ranking systems and bragging points.

Instead of thinking of it as a negative think of it as a positive.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

Having played Mmo rpgs since the late 90s it's not a valid argument to say it's a genre that's not for me.

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Alright, then let me rephrase that. The casual MMORPG's are probably not for you. But there's still quite a few of non-casual-friendly RPG's out there, so no loss there.

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And it's not about having gear that lasts for infinity. It's about having gear and builds that actually feel like they're worth the effort to obtain and content to actually make use of it in.

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There is no build to be had in this game. Yoshida and his team remove any sign of a build on purpose. It irritates me to no end, myself, but that's how it is. As for what we DO have, however, it IS worth to get and you do get a use out of it. Without higher level gear, you won't be able to do/do as easily the higher difficulty content. The fact that the gear will be outdated in a few months time doesn't change that fact.

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One of the biggest complaints players have with this game is there's never anything to do. And that's incredibly true. There's an absolute ton of content yet only 1% is actually relevant and worth doing at any time. The rest of itn8s obsolete junk that could easily be deleted entirely and it make much of a difference to the game.

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Every single MMORPG (and single player RPG's for that matter) are the same. Every content is valid only for a limited time and then it becomes obsolete, unless done purely for the heck of it (or challenge). That's a technical limit of games being limited only by that, which the developers foresee. You cannot do what YOU want, you can only choose from one of the paths that the developer wants from you. It's impossible to avoid, just make it less visible by literally flooding the players with new content...which is costly.

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Compare that to older mmos. Where there was infinitely more to do and infinitely more relevant content at any given time. Even when new gear did come out and replace older gear it was a much slower and piece by piece process not blatant replacement of absolutely everything you own.

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I remember the old-style MMO's. I also remember just why it was slower. Not only getting a gear was on a very low random number generator (for "HQ" gear it could be below 5%, and THEN it still had to be for your class...and usually if it's not, then it's useless cause most games have one class per character), but there was often some random element added to it, so even if you did get your gear, you wanted to get more copies cause they could have better stats. And leveling?! Yeah...Higher levels could take literally weeks for a SINGLE level. And at least in games I did play a lengthier time ago, there were even no instances, so for all of that, you had to compete with other players...It could take months to get that one piece you wanted for that reason alone.
Sorry, but that's a horrid design. The random stats?! Not really, so long as they don't make or break the game. But the absurdly low chance of getting any gear to begin with, coupled with competition over the the kill, absolutely. It makes the game not feel like a game at all. If I spend time in a game, I want to know that I progressed somehow. Spending it without anything to show for it for weeks...is not good. Well, not for majority of people.

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Progression was slower and yet players were never as bored as they now. Now it's log in do the expert Maybe a 24 man if you need the weekly and log out cos you've done everything there is to do.

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I think this is just nostalgia speaking. If you actually played some of these games now, I'm quite certain that you would very much be irked at how slow they are to a point. Not necessarily enough to stop playing them again, but some. Grinding levels and gear WAS boring, when you had to do the same content for dozens of time and get very little for it. If you look at it from an objective point of view, this game is no more boring that them. Heck, quite the opposite. You get "progression" faster, so even with short attention span, it is much less difficult to enjoy it. Cause people like progressing, that's a natural way things are. The boring part starts once people end up progressing to whatever point was their goal, and at that time there is no reason for them to log on anymore (unless for PvP and/or social interactions, which are two human-based and thus always change). And in this game, due to the progression being much faster, you will get to it sooner. However, that's because this game is casual-oriented. It specifically removes the grind, so that you don't spend half a day every day just to keep up with the game. It's a design choice, or rather, the target audience. And the reason why I said that the genre (and now corrected myself to specifically the group within the genre this game represents) may not be suited for you.

Extreme Primals are not part of the main story and that is really the place unsynced was designed for. If it is normal or hard, unless you really can't get a group (which with roulettes shouldn't be that hard) then it is a option. But, that is what it is, an option. Extreme Primals are all optional content. If you want a group that does it unsynced then gather a group together that will want to do it. It is optional content. Everything else is story content covered by the roulettes and can be done unsynced.

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Extreme Primals are not part of the main story and that is really the place unsynced was designed for. If it is normal or hard, unless you really can't get a group (which with roulettes shouldn't be that hard) then it is a option. But, that is what it is, an option. Extreme Primals are all optional content. If you want a group that does it unsynced then gather a group together that will want to do it. It is optional content. Everything else is story content covered by the roulettes and can be done unsynced.

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Meant synced at the end. Not unsynced. Can't edit from phone so sorry for the double post.

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Extreme Primals are not part of the main story and that is really the place unsynced was designed for. If it is normal or hard, unless you really can't get a group (which with roulettes shouldn't be that hard) then it is a option. But, that is what it is, an option. Extreme Primals are all optional content. If you want a group that does it unsynced then gather a group together that will want to do it. It is optional content. Everything else is story content covered by the roulettes and can be done unsynced.

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Yeah that's how I feel about it as well. Extreme primals are a goal, not a main story thing where you're missing content.

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Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

Everything loses value so fast in this game. Even those awesome weapons locked behind ultimate coil. Will be an absolute joke in a few months time. And absolute rofl stomp few months after that.

Destroys a lot of the incentive to even try and earn anything in the game.

Originally felt really proud of my final witness title for clearing coils. Then soon as 3.0 landed bam just another worthless title that means nothing.

And then people / devs wonder why players just aren't that motivated. Or why raiding pops are so low.

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Doesn't remove fun for me, almost like different people value things differently.

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Meant synced at the end. Not unsynced. Can't edit from phone so sorry for the double post.

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Use full site and you can edit on mobile.

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Knowing the fight doesnt mean youll be better. Knowing the fight doesnt mean you'll remember mechanics.

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Uhh, yes it does. That's inherently part of what "knowing the fight" means.

You think a party that steps into Ramuh EX for the very first time without any knowledge of it has even the remotest chance of doing better than a party that has the fight on farm?

I don't care whether people clear and/or farm stuff sync or unsync. Those things are not for you and me to decide on.

There are benefits to clearing things when relevant (when at level AKA synced.) When I do clear the duty (e.g., Sophia EX, Zurvan EX, etc.), I have more chances of winning battles and obtaining totems for whistles down the road. Heck, I can get my mount before the bads and/or forgetful ones start ruining the farm parties.

Most unsync farm parties for EX primals after Bismarck and Ravana are rather horrible and wastes time wiping to mechanics instead of using skill and their unsynced powers to farm mounts as the party description says.

Honestly, it really doesn't bother me. If I want to challenge myself, there's newer content I can use to accomplish the same thing; there's no reason for me to spend time on older content in the way you're suggesting.

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If they had to wait for a year or more for new content, the game would be a complete wasteland...and closed.

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Objection! Wasteland - yes, closed - not yet. Source: personal experience with SWTOR and roughly 2 years of no new content. Old content was much much more replayable and replayed though. Know why?
Unsync being much less drastic (running a lvl60 raid as fully geared lvl65 raid group is like doing primals synced, i.e. having max ilvl available. No more than that basically), way more instakill mechanics which are not just "don't stay in bad" and later on, sync up and not down so you retain abilities and so on.

Back on topic: Git gud OP.
I've first cleared all the primals in sync and yes, getting a group for titan/garuda/ifrit took days. But are you actually commited or not?
If you want bragging rights, go kill UCoB and it will last you until 4.2, probably more. Not good enough? Well here your bragging rights go.

Even now, you can't be completely oblivious to say a8s mechanics and still beat it. You had to have a tiny clue about o4s mechanics would you choose to kill it sync in 3.0. And theeen, you can underman and opt for some fun learning and devising new strats for undermanning. Half of this thread is saying you this, unsync allows you to do more, not less. If you feel offended... I don't know even. Try not to cry so much?

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But the feeling that somehow unsynch made the people worse or is the reason for all those bad players cant also be truly proven. At least not until we have the exact data with numbers that show us that the amount of bad players increased drastically after the introduction of that feature. I mean I am not saying that this might not be good for some players and the way they play but at the same time not everyone that does it unsynch the first time is bad. We simply dont know.

In the end this gives new people the chance to at least do that content once, without having to wait forever. This way people will not need to buy a jump potion to get beyond the content.

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Are you suggesting if I took two theoretical players, both starting the game rn, and have one run every piece of content up to current stuff synced and the other do it all unsynced, that there would be zero appreciable difference in their skill level or their ability to clear the new content?

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You could only do this if they have the exact kind of skill. Maybe the one that unsynch it, is already a bad player and would not have been better with synch. Maybe the one that will synch everything runs the stuff with friends that carry them through. I mean in my old FC we had some people that did stuff synch and yet they were horrible players who only got through it because the rest of us tried their best.

This argument is something that I probably like to see with jump potion but in the end even if someone still unsynchs everything, if they take their time to learn their job they will not be much worse. But if you have a bad player who does not want to get better, nothing much will change that.

I am not saying that unsych might not make it worse for some. But I dont believe that this is one of the main reason for the skill level of the player base. I find things like jump potions way bigger problems and even there you will have different kind of players.

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Originally Posted by Keicho

its so useless in my opinion..
u dont learn the fight, no fun.
for me SE should do first kills only Sync doable.
i also hate people mean fights are easy. then go in sync mean they can do it easy and then "oh this is hard" lol while looking for a group know wahts to do

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Didnt you make this exact thread a few days ago? Making a new one isn't going to make more people agree with you.

the problem is you did learn the fight years ago, got the achievment/glamour while learning the game.

its just annoying to see how people overrole this while dont even know wahts to do in there.

i was in ravana ex fight with 4 people in a farm group.
people doenst wanted do it with 4 bcs they didnt know the mechanics there. well. "farm"

horses was rly rare and cool, and i dont like people can get it easy now. and its not a statemant to say ,,well they want to come into the game" for me a mmorpg has to be long and difficult, tahts why i play this game. farm stuff while doing awesome hard raids and primaes. it looks like it gets from year to year more casual. which is bad. they should not speed up anima/ zodiac weapons. bcs you get the points easyly by dailys. they shoulndt do higher drop rate by horses and birds, and let player do solo lvl 50 extreme primaes and farm ponys. you just overrole everything then.
idk why they do awesome and hard fights doable with less than 8 persons.

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Honestly, it really doesn't bother me. If I want to challenge myself, there's newer content I can use to accomplish the same thing; there's no reason for me to spend time on older content in the way you're suggesting.

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to be honestly? well then you dont deserve the horses/ birds or weapon glamour. you want stuck and do everytime the same in the game? every week the same raid? well. it would give you different in the game to do older fights in lvl 50/60 without unsync than only do the primaes and raids week and week again and role over older content in 2min. is taht realy the fun you want? im sure older player would agre^^


did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?
do you have this feeling while do ramuh/ titan or raids in less mins with lvl 70 dont even get dmg to die? im surely not. you cant say "i did it" bcs u dont even know mechanics there.

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did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?

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You have not even done the new one, you don't even have gear to do any new relevant content to gain the titles you claim to want to protect but so clearly are just salty that other people can get the 'meaningless' tittles/mounts/minions that at some point you had to work for as many others have stated old and outdated content.


Edit:I know it is not the subject but from my view, the OP is coming back to the game not having put the effort in when the content was relevant and being upset that not everyone wants to do more work for something that is outdated, those same people that farm birds daily when relevant now farm exes and savage and coil, people do not have the energy or time to sync ever last primal for what can take up to 50+ runs before the mount even drops and it has nothing to do with learning the fight. (All tho i know some people like to play hit the aoe and take as many as they can in a row sometimes)

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You have not even done the new one, you don't even have gear to do any new relevant content to claim the titles you claim to want to protect but so clearly are just salty that other people can get the 'meaningless' tittles/mounts/minions that at some point you had to work for that, are again as many others have stated old and outdated content.

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well. you are funny.
i killed t9 with ilvl 110 as war solo tank, which was nearly imposible. you dont want know how often we tried to kill it. the last phase as war was pain. the tank buster every heal had to shild me. i had to use 2 or beter 3 cds to not die, while we had to do this shit mechanics there. when i managed the cds wrong by the adds before, or i had to use another cd bcs the healer wasnt can heal me the time it was often over. taht was difficult. not taht like today raids are.
i killed t9 savage years ago before lvl 60 cames out, which only few people had without paying the kill.
i did every raid, primae, to lvl 60 a1s to 4s. then i had a long break bcs it was to easy.
i mean, for t5 i need around 1 or 2 week to sucess with my group.
a1s to a4s on lvl 60 i needed only a single week.
so i had a break since begin lvl 60 to now. bcs it was to easy, it wasnt the challange anymore i had before. but other games are boring to so i got back now.

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its just annoying to see how people overrole this while dont even know wahts to do in there.

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You make it sound like they're cheating when it's something the devs decided on.

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horses was rly rare and cool, and i dont like people can get it easy now

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Newsflash, they moved the goalposts. Kirin doesn't make you cool anymore, the dogs do. And this entire thread sounds like you being upset you took a break while your trophies were relevant and came back when they weren't, so you want them to be rare again. Tough break.

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for me a mmorpg has to be long and difficult, tahts why i play this game.

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For how much you complain about what goes on in this game, are you sure you should continue playing it? Just a thought. Maybe then you'd stop wanting everyone else to have as little fun as you're obviously having, seeing Kirins left and right and giving yourself an ulcer over it.

how much playtime do you have? i have 151 days playtime, with over a year break.

and waht i heard from my friends saying the new raid isnt even taht hard than before, no dps checks (or to easy). years ago u had to do massiv dmg while do the mechanics. thats why i mean it gets more casual.

well have fun with you no funny raid kills, im sure you cant even beat t5 with lvl 70^^ bcs you guys are attenuated from easy 2min kills with lvl 70.

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Newsflash, they moved the goalposts. Kirin doesn't make you cool anymore, the dogs do.

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well i think yxou dont get waht i want to say. kirin would you make cool still when you wouldnt can do it with lvl 70 (only lvl 50) and they didnt increases drop rate from (old 1-5% to new 20-50% or so)^^ tahts my problem with it.
i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^
but i think i speak against a wall here, a wall full off newbie players or lazy people dont want learn fights or farm.
a lvl 50 primae to farm was early only 5-6 mins to with a good group. isnt rly a diferent. well, u had to learn. lazy peoples.^^

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well. you are funny.

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Thanks! i try! But really past achievements aside, have you beat any savage? new raid? coil? Ult coil aint easy.... lvl up put the work in and do that like everyone else who wants hard content rather then complain about old content you want to sync for no other reason then personal gratification and if that is the case, more power to you! find a group to do it with you, but you should not be on the forums complaining about a system that has kept old content at least sometimes played in farm groups and for newbies to experience that they would never be able to otherwise.

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did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?
do you have this feeling while do ramuh/ titan or raids in less mins with lvl 70 dont even get dmg to die? im surely not. you cant say "i did it" bcs u dont even know mechanics there.

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I've been playing since ARR-beta - and I've cleared every EX-primal when it was more or less recent content. I've got all my horses before HW and all my birds before SB (aka: in synched parties). My raid-group back then just managed to clear T13 a week before HW and yes, that was a lot of "YES! We did it!" in our TS back then. But non of that affects your game-experience just as much as it wouldnt affect your game-experience if I'd gotten all of that within the last two weeks in unsyched parties. (Or that I'm now unsyching that content for my Khloe-book or for bird-farms for friends.)

If someone prefers not to have this "Yes! I really did it and managed to clear this difficult fight!"-moment and just get their clear and/or items, that doesnt ruin anything for you. Its their right to "break" the game (within the limits the game allows you, obviously) and if thats more fun to them, why not let them have that fun?
Its great that you enjoy a challenge and that you like the ones the game is offering you - doesnt mean that everyone has to share this sentiment and who are you to tell them "NO! You're not allowed to enjoy this content your way! My way is the only right way!"

The only thing thats affected are your little shiny status-symbols - aka the mounts (and maybe weapons - seeing how they can be crafted as prettier version though... not really) - and if its bothering you that someone can go and farm for them with less time investment, all I can say is: Get over yourself.
No one is hurting you by running this content unsyched - you dont have to do that, if you dont want to.

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well i think yxou dont get waht i want to say. kirin would you make cool still when you wouldnt can do it with lvl 70 (only lvl 50) and they didnt increases drop rate from (old 1-5% to new 20-50% or so)^^ tahts my problem with it.
i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^

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Because you're doing it for the challenge? For the fun you get out of playing this content how its supposed to be? Like you claim you do... or are you just in for the bragging rights after all?
Make up your mind! Do you enjoy the challenge and the game for itself - or just because you can shove it into peoples faces what you've achieved in the game?

Years ago i was can go in RANDOM dungeon finder and killed t5 nearly, titan or ramuh was realy good increased and they was rly hard to kill this old times, when i go NOW into a primae, or raid. we wipe after few secs bcs no one try to learn, just to role over. no one want to do sync anymore, bcs its to annyoing for them. i dont want do unsync. its boring and just overrole. idk waht SE doing there, but when iw ould be the developer i wouldnt unsync doable.^^ ONLY when then u cant get title/mounts.

but i think my thoughts are too high for you guys.

well, it isnt my game. SE can do waht ever they want. when they want their raids and primae they developed rly hard to get this close calls mechanics and let us overrole them. okay.

i think im the only one want challange. sad tahts why every game gets easier since 2005 or waht ever looks like SE start like the same.

http://mein-mmo.de/final-fantasy-xiv-zelda-stormblood/

well im sure you know translator.

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i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^

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but i think i speak against a wall here, a wall full off newbie players or lazy people dont want learn fights or farm.

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No need to start insulting people just because we (and the devs) disagree with you :)

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Years ago i was can go in RANDOM dungeon finder and killed t5 nearly, titan or ramuh was realy good increased and they was rly hard to kill this old times, when i go NOW into a primae, or raid. we wipe after few secs bcs no one try to learn, just to role over. no one want to do sync anymore, bcs its to annyoing for them. i dont want do unsync. its boring and just overrole. idk waht SE doing there, but when iw ould be the developer i wouldnt unsync doable.^^ ONLY when then u cant get title/mounts.

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Ah, so people wouldnt be doing the content at all anymore? Or go back to farming it with "statics"? Because thats what me and my friends did, both for horses and birds: Group up with 8 people, ignore DF alltogether. DF was never a good place to do EX-primals or raids, specially not for the more complexe fights. And I'm saying that as someone who used to queue up for Garuda, Ramuh and Shiva EX when they were recent content because I wanted my damn ponies. People rushed into fights back then, expecting them to be faceroll easy aswell - or at least had no idea how to do said fights.
One thing I found very helpful: Be the person offering advice and explantion. Dont expect the other 7 people to know what they're doing or to explain whats going on.
If you actually want to learn those fights, the way to go is and has always been to find 7 other people beforehand to do that content with. Not DF.

And yes, sorry, that I consider doing some of those fights synched annoying by now - I must have killed Nidhogg, Sophia and Zurvan about 70 times synched, I dont even want to know about Ramuh (he just didnt wanted me to have that purple pony - and that fight sucks when doing it synched). I'm open to do those fights properly if a friend of mine would want that - but other than that, I'm done with it, thank you very much.

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i think im the only one want challange. sad tahts why every game gets easier since 2005 or waht ever looks like SE start like the same.

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No, you're not - my friends and I are doing synched or even minimum ilvl content from time to time - but we're also busy with playing the new endgame-content that provides us with a challenge.
And sometimes we cant get 8 people together but would still like to spend some time with the game - unsyching and farming some old primals is a nice thing to do in those cases. Doesnt mean we never run that content synched anymore... (and again: having done those fights well over 50 times synched... its okay, its done, we're done.)

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High allright, and not the way you seem to think.

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i think im the only one want challange. sad tahts why every game gets easier since 2005 or waht ever looks like SE start like the same.

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You insult people and yet... call people lazy? i am sorry but how many classes do you have max lvl in those 151 days you mentioned above? how much effort have you put into anything recently? You call people lazy yet most of us here work everyday on our progression while you sit and complain.

but seems like im the realy only one want challange.
good se you did go the right way.
do the game more easier
do every raid doable in less a month.
seems like people like do everything in less weeks and waiting bored for a new patch.
seems like tahts they want.

and when u mean "i need more like a month to complete". well now.
when you learn the mechanics u will learn them even faster raid to raid. mostly they are just comebacks from other fights. one day also you will do it much faster. tahts true.

tl;dr "Wah, wah, my toys are no longer the shiniest in kindergarten and I can't be bothered with getting new toys, wah" /thread

Go throw yourself against UCOB if you want a challenge, stop complaining about ARR content.

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Originally Posted by Keicho

but seems like im the realy only one want challange.
good se you did go the right way.
do the game more easier
do every raid doable in less a month.
seems like people like do everything in less weeks and waiting bored for a new patch.
seems like tahts they want.

and when u mean "i need more like a month to complete". well now.
when you learn the mechanics u will learn them even faster raid to raid. mostly they are just comebacks from other fights. one day also you will do it much faster. tahts true.

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Like i said, go try ultimate coil. but i doubt you will because right now there is no bragging rights, only pain misery and many sleepless nights about tornado's, oh and a shiny golden weapon you could gloat to people about!
But you won't because many players like you do not actually support the game, you play get bored come back years later complain about change then rinse and repeat, at least i have stuck with this game since i started playing, you seem to not have.

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Originally Posted by Keicho

but seems like im the realy only one want challange.
good se you did go the right way.
do the game more easier
do every raid doable in less a month.

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The last patch just added Ultimate Coil of Bahamut - a raid thats supposed to offer a new, hardcore challenge for people who are intrested in that.
You cant have cleared the recent EX-primal yet either - and Shinryu can be a little bitch, believe me. Theres a challenge to have!

But all of those are new challenges you're not used to yet, right? You'd rather repeat the old fights that you know and that dont offer a real, new challenge for you anymore.
Old challenges get replaced with new ones - I wouldnt want to just work my ass off at Garuda EX for the rest of my life in this game.

It would be horribly frustrating to new players to keep everything as hard to get as it once was. Sure, horses used to be a kind of status symbol - but what kind of status do you still get from "I cleared this outdated fight 3 years ago" compared to "I cleared this current hard content"? Besides, as many people have mentioned, it's really nice that you're having fun doing everything synced! Some others might not! Current content cannot be unsynced so just let people do old fights however is fun to them. You're really not losing anything, and you can always be your fc-grandpa and tell the story of how you cleared Titan ex back when it couldn't be unsynced.

Don't take him too seriously, he's just a troll.

For example: His bragging about

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a1s to a4s on lvl 60 i needed only a single week.

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doesn't count. He postet this in our german board too and we discovered that, indeed, he cleared it in one week .. in December '16.

I think that's all you need to know ..

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

If they mandated first timers had to do all content synced, they would never experience any old raids or EX Primals. No one does Titan EX or Alexander Prime synced anymore.

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Bingo correct answer here! It doesn't even MATTER whether people think they can tell others how to play because in the end making first kills sync only would be a stupid move on SE part.

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Originally Posted by Keicho

did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?
do you have this feeling while do ramuh/ titan or raids in less mins with lvl 70 dont even get dmg to die? im surely not. you cant say "i did it" bcs u dont even know mechanics there.

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Yes I did all of Bahamut after T5 unsynch for my first kill. And it was still fun, it still took some skill to win and yes I still was happy when we killed them. I still have great respect for all those people that do the raids when they are still recent. At the same time all those people are already able to show of their mounts/titles/minions for a long time since you can only unsynch the old things when a new expansion hits.

Nobody is forced to do things synch or unsynch so people still can kill stuff like it was meant to be..but at the same time if you did not do it from the start your ilvl will already make the fight easier. Also lets not forget that you dont need to unsych it with 8 people. You can still have a challenge if you go with only four or five people. Heck a friend did T13 with him as a tank and her as a healer and this is far from easy.

If we would be forced to do the content synch for the first time before we can unsynch it, I really hope that you are still understanding of new people, if you dont need the primal anymore and will help out newer players to clear the fight, even if that might mean hours of learning and wiping. Also theoretically if you want to earn the mount/title/minions like the first people did..wouldnt that mean that anyone in there that already cleared it makes it easier for you thus you also did not need the work that the first people did? Are you reading guides? Are you only going in with new people to truly learn the fight or are you hoping for players that already cleared it?

I kinda agree with you. First kills should be proper kills

But all I want is to be best friends with Khloe...