Encyclopædia Eorzea ("Lore Book") Bug Report Thread

PAGE: 018
HEADING: Creation
SUBHEADING: n/a

The fourth paragraph beings with the word It repeated twice.

PAGE: ??? (still have no book)
Heading: Voidsent
Subheading: Dahaka

There's a reasonI colored the subheading. and that reason is there is an extra A there that isn't in the respective Mob's Nameplates in both Mhach and the Palace of the Dead, for reference the latter is called the Nightmare Dahak and the Mhach one is the Summoned Dahak.

Also the entire entry on that Mob has the name with that extra letter.

I apologize if this has been brought up before

Finally got my lore book! Time for the RPC's loremonger to jump in. I've seen a few things that conflict with the game's given lore and I was hoping for further clarification!


PAGE: 275
HEADING: Beastkin or Seedkin?
SECTION: Beastiary - Beastkin - Goobbue

Goobbues are listed in the lore book under the Beastkin class, but previous in game lore defines them as seedkin?

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Originally Posted by Goobbue Sproutling

To achieve their cyclopean size, goobbues must maintain a daily diet of several times their own weight. Luckily, the seedkin are not fincky eaters, and will consume almost anything that cannot outrun them. If rumors are to be believed, this includes Lalafells.

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PAGE: 12-13
HEADING: The Near East - Ilsabard or Thavnair?
SECTION: Geography

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg12

After quickly toppling several nearby nations, the Garleans, now an empire, set their sights on warmer climes and led their armies across the mountains and into southern Ilsabard - an area known to Eorzeans as the Near East…

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg13

To the south of Ilsabard lies a great sea known as the Bounty… The most prominent of those civilizations would have to be that of Radz-at-Han, located on Thavnair - the Bounty’s largest landmass.

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This seems to conflict with in game lore that uses Thavnair and the Near East as inseparable terms that are nearly completely interchangeable.

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Originally Posted by F'lhaminn

Our impromptu excursion to the Near East afforded me the opportunity to sample authentic Thavnairian cuisine. I should like to introduce it to the Scions, but achieving the perfect balance of spices is key…

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Originally Posted by Thavnairian Silk

This silk has been spun from thread created by a worm found only on the Near Eastern island of Thavnair.

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Originally Posted by Yumah Molkot

In response to recent fluctuations in the market, the [Brugaire Consortium] is sourcing these arms from the city-state of Radz-at-Han, far across the Jade Sea. I should note at this juncture that these are no ordinary weapons—they are fashioned from a peculiar stone called Giantsgall, a material traditionally used in the making of Near Eastern arms.

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To list a few of about 30 or so other correlations. Additionally, as yet in game, we've never once seen any part of Ilsabard referred to as anything but "the northern great continent"?

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Originally Posted by Lodestone

Until some fifty years ago, Garlemald was a remote and sparsely populated nation which held little more than a fraction of the northern continent of Ilsabard. But with the arrival of a technological golden age and the concurrent emergence of a brilliant young legatus—now the reigning emperor—in the span of a single generation Garlemald established itself as one of the most formidable forces in all of Hydaelyn.

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Originally Posted by Nananoby

In the name of the Twelve and all that is good, you must cease this folly at once! The Ixal and Amalj'aa are not enemies!Your enemies lie in the northeast—the Empire! They are the true threat to Eorzea. What will come of quarreling amongst yourselves!?

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My assumption is that the region known as the Near East must include all of these islands and small landmasses in the Bounty / Jade Sea as well as the southern tip of Ilsabard, but the revelation seemed to come out of left field is all?

PAGE: 13
HEADING: Meracydian Trade
SECTION: Geography

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg13

While some areas remain uninhabitable even today, those which have been repopulated remain recluse and very rarely welcome contact with the civilizations of the northern hemisphere, ofttimes attacking those who approach, whether it be by sea or by air.

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I'm in love with the new Meracydian revelations, but this segment seems to conflict somewhat with many sources from 1.0 and ARR implying that there exists varied trade between Meracydia and Limsa Lominsa especially, but also the other southern Eorzean city-states?

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Originally Posted by Right as Rubber

Quality rubber soles crafted by the skilled alchemists of Eorzea is a highly sought-after item in the faraway land of Meracydia. The Seventy-seven Caravans is currently preparing a shipment bound for the southern continent via Limsa Lominsa, but is still far from meeting its quota.

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Originally Posted by Undercutting the Competition

An informant from Ul'dah had provided representatives from Black Rabbit Traders with a rumor that the Jolly Raptor is planning a shipment of gnat antennae to the witch doctors of Meracydia, and that the company has been promised an exorbitant sum of gil upon its delivery. The Black Rabbit does not believe that their rivals should have the privilege to horde all the profits, and so has begun planning a shipment of their own.

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Originally Posted by Carvallain

In a game of Meracydian chess, the first move is always the most important. While there is no one correct move, there are many which are incorrect. Make the incorrect move and you will never win. The same is true in the game of piracy.

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Originally Posted by Ahlduwil

Lookee here, thatsh a full bottle! I had one of thoshe around here before. I think shummin’ happened to it. Thanksh! You’re the best app'rition I ever sheen. Shupposed to be other cargo too─cheshts full of electrum bars ‘n’ the like for trading with the Easht and Merash… Merashummin’. Me, I’ll take the wine…

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With additional references to importing Meracydian samite from Elfleda near the Sanctum to Mistbeard's infamous heist of a ten-ponz Meracydian diamond from the Sultan's vaults. While we could chalk all this up to some of those "very rare" instances mentioned in the lore book, the bit about Meracydian chess seems to suggest a much more personal exchanging of ideas between the two continents. There's even the Kple Kple, which was made from the mask of Meracydian tribesmen as a gift to a Gridanian conjurer. If there's any light you can shed on this perhaps?

PAGE: 95
HEADING: Limsa Lominsa's Founding a Retcon?
SECTION: History


I had actually hoped to bring this question up at Fanfest, but when I got my hands on the lore book and saw this key difference in stories, it raised more questions.

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg13

The first, and northernmost, is a remote archipelago known as Aerslaent - homeland of the Sea Wolf tribe of Roegadyn. It is from these islands that the first inhabitants of Limsa Lominsa are said to have hailed - arriving on Vylbrand after a failed raiding attempt in the southern Rhotano Sea.

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg95

In 874 of the Sixth Astral Era, the Galadion set sail from the isles deep in the northern seas - the last of a mighty armada which turned on its nation in the name of the people, only to meet defeat at the hands of those they meant to free. The Sea Wolf crew of this noble vessel, who could no longer abide the rule of tyrants, steered her crippled hull south though unknown waters in search of a new home. After a yearlong voyage cursed by many troubles, the ship drifted to the southern coast of Vylbrand, and there ran aground.

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To start, even these two passages on Limsa's founding in the lore book conflict somewhat, but comparing them to the original story has me very confused.

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Originally Posted by Frithuric

You hear the legend of how this city was born? Well, years ago, there was this mighty kingdom far to the south–so far, they say that it would take a man half his life to sail to her shores–and it had an invincible armada of twenty score times ten unsinkable battleships. They conquered nigh on every city for a thousand leagues, and were the unchallenged master of the sea…until, that is, an armada just as invincible as their own invaded their waters.

Both sides fought with the courage of lions and the ferocity of sharks, but the kingdom’s fighters, so used to doing the attacking themselves, were unsure how to defend against onslaughts of a similar nature. And so their fleet was nearly destroyed and their cities were completely razed. Only a small fleet of their fastest dromonds was able to escape the carnage under cover of nightfall. It pained the crews to abandon their lands, of course, but they knew flight was the only way to ensure their people lived on.

And so they sailed and they sailed, until one day a terrible storm–some say sent by Llymlaen herself–picked up the few remaining ships and tossed them down upon the rocks of La Noscea. The ships were too badly damaged to be rebuilt, though by this time the men were weary from their journey, and no longer wished to run. And so they salvaged the remnants of their ships and built a tiny settlement on the rocks. Over time that settlement grew…and transformed into the city you see here today.

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Obviously, taking into account that NPCs are wholly unreliable narrators and legends being even less reliable sources of historical fact - this story closely resembles the first passage from Pg13, but nothing like the one from Pg95. Obviously this "southern kingdom" isn't half a lifetime away, but the southern continent of Meracydia is implied to take quite some time by boat.

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Originally Posted by Mahi-Mahi

Its name meaning “stalwart” in the Lalafellin tongue, this deep-sea predator is not only massive, but deceptively fast. Some sailors swear that a mahi-mahi can make the journey from Meracydia to the Cieldales in less than a fortnight, though knowing most sailors, that claim may be slightly exaggerated.

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This information, as well as the many citations of trade between Meracydia and Limsa Lominsa I mentioned in my previous post, guided a theory that Limsa Lominsans might have originated from Meracydia and then been conquered by the Sea Wolf armadas of the north - giving rise to the ARR text citing Sea Wolves as the founders of the city-state after enduring horrifying raids along Eorzea's coastlines.

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Originally Posted by Merewina

Every child has heard frightening bedtime tales of fearless, bloodthirsty vikings who would stalk the five seas in their longboats, mercilessly reaving and pillaging costal villages until the shiploads were overflowing with plunder, and the villages with their bastards.

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This has sparked several questions: If the Galadion and Limsa Lominsa are of Sea Wolf origin, why then are three out of the four named crew members Elezen? Why does the Galadion not have a Sea Wolf name? And where did the name Limsa Lominsa come from? It just strikes me as extremely odd that a city supposedly founded by Sea Wolves has almost nothing named in the Sea Wolf tongue or at least named after the Galadion's admiral, Elilwaen, the as yet only known Roegadyn aboard the ship. But they named several important things in Limsa after the Elezen crew.

But I guess the most important question, is this a retcon?

PAGE: 29
HEADING: Miqo'te Migration and Origin
SECTION: The Fifth Umbral Era

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg29

It is believed that for the years that encompassed the Fifth Umbral Era - or as it is also known, the Age of Eternal Frost - much of the Bloodbrine Sea was frozen solid, on one hand preventing fishing and decimating the populations of sea life, but on the other, allowing for the migration of Miqo’te tribes from the southern Ilsabard into northern Eorzea - tribes made up of descendants of the very same Miqo’te who were persecuted against and driven from Eorzea by the Allagan Empire almost two millennia earlier. The newly hardened seas of this frigid era provided the tribes with a means around the massive peaks of Gyr Abania that prevented their return in the Fourth Astral Era, and while there was little awaiting them in the rime-encrusted realm when they arrived, their uncanny ability in the hunt granted them a means of survival until the frost had melted.

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For starters as far as I've read so far, this passage is the only place in the book or game where "Eternal Frost" is used in place of what's seen in game and other passages as "Endless Frost."

More to the main concern with the passage is that this seems to conflict with previous hints and text that suggest Miqo'te originated from Meracydia to the south, not Ilsabard? Including a passage DAT-mined from the game (not by me) that, if the original poster is to be believed, was intended for loading screen help/lore text?

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It is believed the Miqo'te first came to Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era, fleeing their ravaged homeland on the southern continent of Meracydia.

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Originally Posted by Sesame Seeds

A tiny seed rich in aromatic oil, sesame is native to Meracydia, and thought to have first been brought to Eorzea by migrating Miqo'te.

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Originally Posted by Aloe

A thick, spiny-leaved cactus indigenous to the southern continent of Meracydia. The Miqo'te are known to treat severe burns with the cool gel-like substance found inside the leaves.

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According to the passage, Miqo'te fled to Ilsabard/Near East to escape persecution under the Allagan Empire, but during this time period, shouldn't they have been fleeing south to Meracydia - the only continent free of Allagan rule?

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg25

...the direct descendants of Xande fostered the growth of the empire by dispatching its armies to the far corners of Ilsabard and Othard. While there was resistance, the empire made short work of all who stood before it, and in time there was not a city in the Three Great Continents where the imperial standard did not hang.

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Is this another retcon? Or did the Miqo'te originate on Meracydia prior to the Allagan Empire but were later forced northwards, only to return south to Eorzea thousands of years after the calamity?

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

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This might be explained by the existence of sub-classes. Beastkin-sub-Seedkin; a beast covered in symbiotic plants.
Some of the other bestiary oddities I cannot explain, though.

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Ayyy, this one was on my to-do list. Good summary of the evidence; not many people remember Frithuric. Like you, I assumed that Meracydia vs. Sea Wolf would be a good assumption for the fall of the Southern Kingdom. This would explain the not-Sea Wolf helmsmen, for starters. And it would still leave them plenty of time to become a dominant force in the area later, when racial tensions hit their peak and Limsa grew from fishing village towards pirate capital. However, Frithy's tale seems to be contradicted by everything from Lominsan history to Sea Wolf history at large, so it's not looking well for him.

Assume that the Sea Wolves whose failed uprising against a tyrant in the Northern Empty (aka Northern Wastes) 700 years ago did found Limsa Lominsa. It's not so weird that they would have Elezen helmsman; Sharlayan would be close by (a bastion of knowledge and home to some demographic of Elezen). Even if they weren't from Sharlayan proper, there would be precedent for Elezen to be there and be considered good helmsmen.

They sailed for a year and had many troubles before landing on Vylbrand, so it's not hard to assume that this is when the raiding and pillaging took place and the failed raid that led to them being rounded happened towards the tail end of it.

I've tried my hand at meshing the two stories together, but it's messy. For starters, one might imagine that even a fraction of a Sea Wolf armada from a capital in the Northern Empty could be comparable to the naval might of a southern city - from their perspective it would be an armada as terrifying as their own (eventually giving rise to tall tales of four thousand vs. four thousand ships in the battle to end all battles). But how he would mistake the outcome of the battle...

The name of the city sounds Lalafellin, does it not?... I wonder.

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

The Near East - Ilsabard or Thavnair?

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I think you're right in that it's probably both far-southern Ilsabard (which we rarely hear about considering Garlemald is in the north) and the islands nearby, similar to how Eorzea is Aldenard and its surrounding islands.

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

Miqo'te Migration and Origin

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Hot topic atm. Curious to see where it goes.

PAGE: 050 / 129
HEADING: A Chronology of the Sixth Astral Era / Ul'dah
SUBHEADING: A New Dynasty

These two pages disagree on whether Baldric Throne or Baldurf Thorne imprisoned Sasagan III.

They've finally opened preorders for the luckless sods like me who had to go on the waiting list. Will those of us getting our books in December get a chance to join in the debugging fun, or have there already been revisions made for the second printing?

PAGE: 088
HEADING: The Roegadyn
SUBHEADING: History

A simple spelling mistake, in this section it says "differnt", but what is probably meant is "different".

NOTE: This is from the EU version of the Encyclopaedia Eorzea.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

PAGE: 088
HEADING: The Roegadyn
SUBHEADING: History

A simple spelling mistake, in this section it says "differnt", but what is probably meant is "different".

NOTE: This is from the EU version of the Encyclopaedia Eorzea.

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Confirmed this is a typo in NA version.

Hi everyone,

I was just wondering if the second printing of the lore book will include corrections to the errors brought up here or if it will still be the same as the first printing.

I'm assuming it will probably still include the errors but just hoping Ferne or another rep can confirm this.

I'll be purchasing it either way, just curious if I should be wary of the errors or not when I'm reading through my copy.

Thanks :)

PAGE: 110
HEADING: Upper La Noscea
SECTION: Bronze Lake, The Wanderer's Palace

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg110

Though the Wanderer's Palace was a temple dedicated to the Oschon, guardian deity of Nym, its history is a tragic one.

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PAGE: 292
HEADING: ASHKIN
SUBHEADING: Slime

The word humours is used twice, but is once spelled humors.

PAGE: 299
HEADING: VOIDSENT
SUBHEADING: Cerberus

"Manmade fetters wrapped about the hound have scholars believing that it was summoned by the Mhach to serve in its assault on Amdapor"

However, Cerberus was introduced in the Crystal Towers series of Alliance Raids, which was Allagan themed, and the Voidsent in question were implied to be the ones Allag were dealing with. Plus the fetters are Allagan in design.

Errata? Or out of all the Voidsent we met that dealt with Allag, Cerberus wasn't sent back till the Sixth Umbral Era?

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Originally Posted by Unittj

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I'm glad someone else brought that up; I don't think I was ever going to decide whether or not to. There are lots of ways it could be "legitimately" wrong. The "scholars" could be wrong. Or the Cloud of Darkness could have more recently set it up to guard that door. There are a few options to distance it from Allag and connect it to something else, but the designs on the fetters are so obviously of the same make that we see on Scylla and Xande and all them that it's just ... awkward, right?

PAGE: 289
HEADING: FORGEKIN
SUBHEADING: Gobmachine G-VI

"The gobmachines forward cannons are highly adaptable..."

No apostrophe.

PAGE: 290
HEADING: FORGEKIN
SUBHEADING: Refurbisher

The Warrior of Light is assumed male, which isn't true for roughly half of the population.

Not really an error, but it seems like something that's avoided usually, so. /shrug

PAGE: 16 and 18
HEADING: The Twelve and Creation
SUBHEADING: Menphina the Lover and Creation

Page 16: "Menphina is the...divine lover of Oschon"

Page 18, 5th paragraph in the creation myth: "Those winds did bring love into the heart of Llymlaen, yet though She longed to be with Oschon...

One of these things is not like the other. Do we have a love triangle in the Eorzean pantheon? Is Oschon the god of wanderers cause he can't commit? Who will ultimately claim the heart of the ruler of mountains?

Sorry all I could think about was cheap soap opera plotlines of two girls over one guy LOL. Errata though, it was stated prior to the creation myth Menphina was Oschon's lover, but Lewphon says the definitive tale says otherwise. Now I'm not about to call the creator of the Astrologian class a liar but...someone's wrong lol.

Tune in next time to "And I thought that god loved me!"

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Originally Posted by Unittj

Do we have a love triangle in the Eorzean pantheon? Is Oschon the god of wanderers cause he can't commit? Who will ultimately claim the heart of the ruler of mountains?

Errata though, it was stated prior to the creation myth Menphina was Oschon's lover, but Lewphon says the definitive tale says otherwise.

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This isn't actually an error. Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.

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Originally Posted by Navigator's Brand

Cousin to the Navigator's dagger, fishers believe that this wavekin was the blade that Llymlaen threw at Oschon in Her fury at having Her naked form espied. The incident led to the latter taking Menphina as His lover.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Mochizuki-san asked if there was some connection between Oschon and Llymlaen, Oda-san answering that in mythology there were several connections, Oschon being the god of mountains, Llymlaen being the goddess of the seas. He mentions that there are even stories that mention a curious Oschon sneaking a peek at a bathing Llymlaen, to which the goddess replies by throwing a knife at the peeping Wanderer. Mochizuki-san finds this absurd, but Oda-san mentions that similar types of stories exist even in Greek mythology.

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Originally Posted by Unittj

One of these things is not like the other.

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.

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Barring the possibility that I'm just missing an obvious bridge here ... (2 a.m. plus Greek-inspired god-math? Big possibility.) ... can it not be both? The creation story seems to omit the connection between Menphina and Oschon ("divine lovers"), so is it not odd that it would say that Llymlaen was over the moon (pun intended) for him when all we know is that he spied on her naked and got a knife thrown at him?

Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?

Page: 177
Heading: Portrait of a People
Section: The Garlean Empire

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"The imbalance of power has greatly informed the territorial feauds of Ilsabard."

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I believe informed should be influenced. I could be mistaken, but every time I read it the wording doesn't make sense and I've never seen an example like this used in any of my other readings.

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Originally Posted by Louvain

Page: 177
Heading: Portrait of a People
Section: The Garlean Empire


I believe informed should be influenced. I could be mistaken, but every time I read it the wording doesn't make sense and I've never seen an example like this used in any of my other readings.

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No, this is an accurate use of the word. It's rare, but it's not incorrect. See this definition from dictionary.com:

"Inform: to give evident substance, character, or distinction to; pervade or permeate with manifest effect:
A love of nature informed his writing."

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Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji

No, this is an accurate use of the word. It's rare, but it's not incorrect. See this definition from dictionary.com:

"Inform: to give evident substance, character, or distinction to; pervade or permeate with manifest effect:
A love of nature informed his writing."

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ah, I see. Thanks.

PAGE: 179
HEADING: The Empire
SECTION: Social Hierarchy


For Citizen - Lower Citizens, the "Bas" title is listed, however, lore from Gubal lists the title for citizenry as "Ban."

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Originally Posted by On Garlean Hierarchy Vol. 2

This hierarchy extends to the general populace as well, though it is far less complex. The majority of citizens bear the "Ban" title, and there is a smaller group which appears to be comprised of respected artisans who have adopted the "Cen" title.

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PAGE: 193
HEADING: Una Tayuun
SECTION: Scions of the Seventh Dawn

I think this one might have shown up earlier in the thread, but to be sure...

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg193

Formerly of the Circle of Knowing, Una was once part of a crew that included the pugilist Percevains and the archer Satzfloh.

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Circle of Knowing should be Path of the Twelve.

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PAGE: 208
HEADING: Ardashir Balyk
SECTION: Faces From Journeys Past

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The son of a Near Eastern Hyuran merchant in Radz-at-Han, Ardashir traveled with his father so as to learn the family business.

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Ignoring his father's protests, the Far Eastern Hyuran became the apprentice of a famous alchemist, and has been conducting research on anima since.

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Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?

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To be fair, yeah, this is the first time we've seen any mention of Llymlaen reciprocating any feelings towards Oschon. But it is strange, now that I've gone back and read the creation myth again that they make no mention of Menphina winding up with Oschon. I still don't see it necessarily as an error or a name swap, but it is definitely an odd thing to leave out.

I wonder though...

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Originally Posted by Moraby Flounder

Legend states that once a normal fish, the flounder was stepped upon by the Wanderer during one of His journeys, and left for dead. Upon finding the fish, the Navigator succeeded in breathing life back into the denizen of the deep, but could not restore it from its new flattened form.

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...was Llymlaen following Oschon around? Did she long to be with him so much that she tried to follow him on his journeys? Maybe Oschon's disregard for the life Llymlaen birthed into the world was what eventually drove her to reject Oschon's transient visits to the seaside. Though if I had a knife handy, I'd probably toss it at a peeping Oschon too.

Pages: 154 - 155
Section: All the Heavensward Biographies

Every member of the Heavensward has the nobiliary particle "de" in their names, even the low-born ones like Paulecrain and Charibert.

PAGE: 289
HEADING: FORGEKIN
SUBHEADING: Panzer Doll

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...such as what has been seen with the recent appearance of “Neo Faust” but mere moons after a party of adventurers reported striking down an older, less sophisticated Faust model.

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This is the JP name of the enemy, but in the English book it might be better to use the forgekin's English name—Hummelfaust.

(Also, moons between Faust and Hummelfaust? Man, we're really eating up that year bubble! /s)

PAGE: 012, 177
HEADING: Dalmasca, Othard or Ilsabard?
SECTION: Geography-Othard, Garlean History-Unifying the North

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg177

In 1517, he was granted control of Garlemald as dictator by overwhelming popular support. The same year, the republic attacked Dalmasca, a small country nestled in the central mountains, and rained down fire upon it with their new airships. Thus, the Garlean army turned to conquer the south of Ilsabard. In 1522, this campaign ended in victory. Having unified the continent through force for the first time in history, Galvus proclaimed himself Emperor, and thus created the Garlean Empire.

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg12

Only in the past two decades have things begun to change - the advent of airship technology thrusting open the once-closed doors of the Far East. However, this new exposure also served to alert the power-hungry Garleans of new territory ripe for the plucking and it was not long before the Empire had set their sights on Doma and Dalmasca - two nations which have since been brought under the imperial standard.

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Originally Posted by Lorecast #7

A: Now that you mention it, though, when Gaius first lands in Vylbrand, the voiced guy does say Othard. It stuck in my head because in another language he says he’s from Rabanastre.

KF: Guess where Rabanastre iiis! <laughs> There’s also a line in the Japanese version where they name-drop Dalmasss—<throat clearing> It’s not in English, but that’s where it is and maybe someday we’ll be seeing some of <heavy throat clearing>. But yes, that land bridge connects directly to Ilsabard. You cannot get to Othard from there without going through Ilsabard. So there’s the land bridge and it goes into Islabard <emphatic hand gestures>.

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Two of these three quotes makes it sound like Dalmasca is in Othard, one makes it sound like its in the center of Ilsabard. Unless Dalmasca is situated on the mountainous landbridge that connects Ilsabard and Othard, similar to Ala Mhigo? Do you have to go southeast to Dalmasca to circle back into southern Ilsabard? I'm very confused.

I discussed this a bit back in the Revelations thread, but it should be noted that there's a fourth Dalmasca reference, in the 6th Astral Era timeline, that all but explicitly places it in Ilsabard's mountain range like the section on Garlemald; in addition, Koji only explicitly says Rabanastre is in Othard, saying nothing specific about Dalmasca.

My thoughts: While it would be a reasonable assumption that the Encyclopedia's section on Othard and the Koji quote are placing Dalmasca in Othard when taking each quote in isolation, when taken with the context provided by the other two, I think it's likely that Dalmasca is nestled in the mountains that divide Ilsabard. The Koji and Othard quotes probably conflate Dalmasca with Rabanastre because of reference source material and with Doma beause of the necessity for airships to reach them, rather than as geographic neighbors.

Uhh, this isn't so much a bug as it is a mild complaint but;

The text for the origin myths of the beastmen primals (pages 246-263) is small and heavily stylized. This combination can make it hard to read correctly as some of the letters become difficult to distinguish from the other; it would be nice if the text for the Origin myth sections could be slightly enlarged in future printings.

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Originally Posted by Louvain

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Angel Feathers is the Scholar LB3. You'll see that same spot used for the LB3 for many other jobs in the Lorebook. It is not an error.

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Originally Posted by Keever

Angel Feathers is the Scholar LB3. You'll see that same spot used for the LB3 for many other jobs in the Lorebook. It is not an error.

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Ah, I see. The shot confused me as it appears to be focusing on something the fairy herself is doing and the feathers seemed to be the effect of Whispering dawn to me. I'll remove it then.

PAGE: 285
HEADING: SCALEKIN
SUBHEADING: Tyrannosaur

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Known by many as “king of the carnivores,” the tyrannosaur is feared by man and beast alike, its violent nature and insatiable appetite making it one of the deadliest predators in the realm. It’s tiny, almost comical arms are all but ignored by the tyrannosaur while hunting, opting instead to employ the sheer speed granted by its muscular rear legs, and the rows of knifelike teeth that line its massive maw to subdue and slaughter its prey.

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Its.

Also, I've gone back and forth on reporting this a few times, so let's just call this a "might-be". There might be a lot of missing commas in these mob blurbs. I run into a lot of double adjectives and interrupters that seem to just run-on straight through.

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Originally Posted by Louvain

Uhh, this isn't so much a bug as it is a mild complaint but;

The text for the origin myths of the beastmen primals (pages 246-263) is small and heavily stylized. This combination can make it hard to read correctly as some of the letters become difficult to distinguish from the other; it would be nice if the text for the Origin myth sections could be slightly enlarged in future printings.

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Mostly I think I need new glasses but I do find the book kind of hard to read. There is a reason that this type of font isn't commonly used, particularly in full paragraph form. It looks cool but it is more difficult to read in low light or for people with vision or reading problems.

PAGE: 51
HEADING: Timeline
SECTION: Autumn War stuff

In the 1468 part, it's called the First Battle of Tinoqla. In 1469, it's the Second Battle of Tinolqa.

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

HEADING: The Near East - Ilsabard or Thavnair?

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My assumption is that the region known as the Near East must include all of these islands and small landmasses in the Bounty / Jade Sea as well as the southern tip of Ilsabard, but the revelation seemed to come out of left field is all?

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How is that out of left field? It seems in line with the in-game references you cited.

Particularly the reference to "the Near Eastern island of Thavnair" clearly indicates that Thavnair is just one portion of the Near East. That phrasing wouldn't make sense if they were somehow one and the same. It's like when someone refers to "the Hawaiian island of Oahu" they're not claiming that Oahu is the entirety of Hawaii, but just that it lies within that state, and is the part of it that's under discussion.

It's true that none of those in-game references addressed the question of what else is in the Near East, but the encyclopedia seems to be simply filling in formerly missing information rather than changing anything.

The other in-game references you cited are simply talking about Thavnair or Radz-at-Han. Would you find it weird if someone got to sample Parisian cooking during a trip to France? Or if someone importing American goods into Europe purchased them from a New York based company? Paris isn't a synonym for France, nor is New York a synonym for America, but they're prominent places within their respective countries. The encyclopedia points out that the civilization of Radz-at-Han is very prominent in the region, so it's not surprising that that's where a lot of the trade between the Near East and Eorzea would come from (leading to it being the part we've seen the most references to so far).