Heavensward - Opening Movie (warning contains spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

...Why does Derpbro have more emotions than we do?
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That is a very good question indeed. SE? T_T
On second thought: we (that is, everyone's own character) have a name - he doesn't. Perhaps they thought it's a fair trade.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Only the intro was rentered (and the ending with Dalamud), everything else was with ingame graphic

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There was a Cutscene during the Uldah Storyline that entered a Rendered cinimatic with a Miqo girl falling over and coblyns leaping over a cliff.

Picking up some comments I just saw, lets point this things.
1) As on the MSQ and the Trailer, the WoL didnt have his weapon.
2) Maybe choosing to fight would have made things worst. The WoL and the Scions didnt tried to run until the figured out that if they were capture, its most probable that would get killed.
3) The WoL and the Scions were really taken off guard by people they trust or that they thought that were not something to be worried about. Even the greatest warrior of all times, that slay lots of Gods, can be defeated if he is stabbed on his back by surprise.
4) Lot of people said that their WoL was super neutral on his emotions of the events that happened on 2.55. Well that "problem" has been fixed on the Heavensward trailer. We cleary see that the default WoL showing his emotions and anger, and he is us. Just imagine that all he experienced but on us which tenicly is what happened lol.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

So did Derplander's party disband? =o

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Probably everyone is dead. That is why you see him more emo then ever.

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Originally Posted by Daranion

No, thats the opening movie, not a trailer and that's the final version. They've been advertising it as such. Also, even in the CG videos, Square wont stop making fun of Dragoons. The CG Dragoons can't even land their jumps correctly. That one DRG got chomped on after his failure

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Rest in Peace.... silly Dragoon.

http://i.imgur.com/jS2Qv7Z.jpg

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Originally Posted by Anapingofness

Pretty sure it was just the lighting that made his hair look white.
As for the beard... well, maybe he is just one of those men that grows hair really quickly?

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That's what it looks like to me. I'm pretty sure its the lighting, as for the increased hair on the face, I know some guys that can grow out a big beard in a week

http://i.imgur.com/77xlPx6.jpg

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Originally Posted by BlueThunder

Do you expect them to render every single possible combination of characters for the representation of the WoL in the CGI trailers and launch more than 1000+ of the same CGI scene but with a different model in it?

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I'd hope they didn't resort to pre-rendering anything. I've seen other MMORPG's where they pre-render stuff just to show off how cool something is, but then when you get into it, no, it's far worse. Mister WoL stand-in only works because he's been there since V1.0... where's the rest of his party?
https://youtu.be/iBfIFgxf2sw?t=435


Note this Opening Cinematic is different from the one in the game (which is narrated)
http://i62.tinypic.com/bi3x4y.png

Then there are the V1.0 OP's companions which appear in two separate scenes
http://i60.tinypic.com/dbh2y9.png
http://i57.tinypic.com/99gp37.png

And Midgardsomr is also in the V1.0 OP (when the airship was sent into the lake)... so I guess we're just coming around full circle on the stuff that was promised in V1.0 ha...

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So yes, the Midlander male, Miqo’te female, Roegadyn male, Elezen female, and Lalafell female in the recent trailers are in fact the same ones that appeared in the 1.0 trailer! (Yes, the black mage is the Elezen female from the morbol party, not the snooty male from the Midlander’s party. The robe & hat conceal some of her more distinguishing features, and we all know there was no bust size adjustment feature back in 1.0).

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90% of the game content can be achieved with the in-game rendering. Once you unload the map and other characters in the area, you actually can squeeze out some pretty good CG, and with top-end cards, get some lighting that allows for some of this. We don't want to go back to FF7/8/9 style pre-renderings for every cutscene because that severely limits the player's customization. The only-pre-rendering you get now in MMORPG's are for opening, ending cinematics that do not-feature your characters, and the occasional "epic" CG sequence that doesn't involve your character.

The problem with pre-rending stuff is that you get promised epic looking stuff in the CG (see that Morbol fight in the V1.0 opening) and then are let down nothing like that actually being possible.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

/1000charlimit

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I actually quite like this spin, it put Mr Derplander into a "party" of other people (which we continue to see for the rest of the CGI Cutscenes) as if he's delved into a Fantasy. Where when he's sitting at the table talking to Mr Derpzen and Derpqote could be representing us as players. Yes they're set in their world still but that's how i like to interperate that whole 1.0 opening anyways =3 Makes it more fun to me.

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Originally Posted by BlueThunder

Do you expect them to render every single possible combination of characters for the representation of the WoL in the CGI trailers and launch more than 1000+ of the same CGI scene but with a different model in it?

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add hair colors into the mix and you have over a million possible combinations EASILY.

Winter is coming!
http://i.imgur.com/77xlPx6.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...3-1024-576.png
Will you be ready?!

I feel like I'm in GoT now.

the elzen next to him before the mask closes seems to be the BLM elzen derplander friend

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Winter is coming!
http://i.imgur.com/77xlPx6.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...3-1024-576.png
Will you be ready?!

I feel like I'm in GoT now.

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I'd never insult FFXIV like that.

This just made me angry all over... I hope they salvage the story with the expansion because 2.55 was just so awful that it was infuriating! To force a player to just be a bystander and watch as his/her character runs out on all the NPCs that he'd/she'd previously worked so hard to save on many a occasion is one of the most frustrating story experiences I've had in a game. It's just terrible writing, plain and simple. There's no defending it. It was sloppy. Especially the whole situation with Raubahn.

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Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver

the elzen next to him before the mask closes seems to be the BLM elzen derplander friend

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Nah, I think it's the npc from the dragoon quest line. Not sure though, it has been too long since last I did the quest.

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Originally Posted by Elmeron

This just made me angry all over... I hope they salvage the story with the expansion because 2.55 was just so awful that it was infuriating! To force a player to just be a bystander and watch as his/her character runs out on all the NPCs that he'd/she'd previously worked so hard to save on many a occasion is one of the most frustrating story experiences I've had in a game. It's just terrible writing, plain and simple. There's no defending it. It was sloppy. Especially the whole situation with Raubahn.

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That was story telling through mechanics, giving you a feeling of lack of agency and frustration and eagerness to fight back (hard!) when you get your first chance. They're trying to make you feel like your character.

It could definitely have been better done though. For instance, the Scions could have been firmer in insisting we go, rather than just assuming we would and us just going along with it. The force used against us really needed a lot more power behind it to warrant our escape in the first place. Although the player character is clearly a goody two shoes (obeying every fetch quest known to man at the slightest request) and they may not like fighting the city guard for doing their job, we have fought the corrupt Brass Blades before I'm pretty sure. Maybe they just put our reactions down to shock at the death + accusations + betrayals, etc. I don't really think it was well conveyed though.

It comes up a lot that it was poor writing because we just ran away, but the point of the narrative was that we were pretty powerless. Not physically. We could have slaughtered endless guards. We might even have been able to kill all the Monetarists. But if we had tried to solve that situation by brute force there was no way for it to end in our favour.

Its supposed to be frustrating. That's the point. They want is to want justice and vengeance against the Monetarists. Because of this when we come for them and bring their plans crashing down it will be all the more satisfying. This isn't the first time this has been done in the narrative. The same thing happened back when the Garleans attacked the Scions. Again, we were pretty powerless. It in many ways made the fight vs the Garleans personal.

I actually think it was good writing. Narrative which is just the hero going from one set of bad guys to another beating them up is pretty average writing in my book. The fact that in the story we really have to struggle and often seem to be losing the war I think just makes it more heroic when we overcome and come out on top.

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Originally Posted by Nanaho

There was a Cutscene during the Uldah Storyline that entered a Rendered cinimatic with a Miqo girl falling over and coblyns leaping over a cliff.

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Still 1.0 Ingame graphic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUqhCYBzF1I

Don't forget that 1.0 ran on the Chrystal Tool engine from FF XIII, optimized for splendig CS

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Originally Posted by Felis

Still 1.0 Ingame graphic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUqhCYBzF1I

Don't forget that 1.0 ran on the Chrystal Tool engine from FF XIII, optimized for splendig CS

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Ah yeah that scene, F'lhammin + Minfillia + tentacles !

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Originally Posted by Riepah

The Derplander as people call him added nothing worthwhile to the trailer at all. Could've just left him out entirely and instead shown an extra scene or two of Ishgard being attacked by dragons.

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If you've played 1.0, you'd know he's practically the mascot of the series. In 1.0, you see him as a archer with his collegues and then he becomes a warrior and then finally a dragoon. It's a player's arc through out the world. I personally like seeing him in the trailers!