[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love

Hopefully we get something new when they let us cast without taking out our weapon.

Devs devs deeeeevs! :)

Bay, give us some love already.

for real alot of the spells look lame... and wtf is up with the raise spells looking like booty?

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Originally Posted by Roll

Hopefully we get something new when they let us cast without taking out our weapon.

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It's a definite possibility. As it stands right now, you must always be in active mode with weapon in hand while casting. Once they allow casting in passive mode, this has the chance of changing the animation.

Unfortunately, there is the chance they will simply remove the weapon from your hand (keeping it in it's passive position) and use the exact same stance and "glowing hand" animation already in the game. This would take far less time and energy to accomplish, so it seems the most likely short term outcome.

We can cross our fingers for a surprising level of casting animation revamp in the near future, but we will most likely only see minimal changes.

I really wish the devs would comment on this and address our concerns. :(

The development team is currently looking into making positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON. :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The development team is currently looking into making positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON. :)

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Yay!!!!! :D

Casting animations or spell effects?

People seem to be using these terms interchangeably.

Lessee what players are saying about the latest post I made! Just gonna click this thread titled "[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love"... Just gotta scroll past my latest post which mentions "positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON"... read the latest post...

*head asplodes*

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Casting animations or spell effects?

People seem to be using these terms interchangeably.

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I think he means the actual casting animations themselves, and not the animation of the spells such as Cure and Flare (not that they couldn't use an update as well... lol).

That made me laugh out loud. Man.. your gonna kill me Bay xD.

Thanks for the hard work Community reps and Dev Team.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Lessee what players are saying about the latest post I made! Just gonna click this thread titled "[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love"... Just gotta scroll past my latest post which mentions "positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON"... read the latest post...

*head asplodes*

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Why you hatin' bro >.>

XD

/comfort Mog ^^;

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Originally Posted by Holland

/comfort Mog ^^;

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It was a serious question.

I didn't mean to imply Bayohne didn't know what he was talking about, but half of the thread doesn't so I had to clarify ; ;

Both casting animations and their visual effects need to be adjusted!

Increasing the visibility (size) of the visual effects for spells better not be the extent of their changes.

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Originally Posted by Len

Both casting animations and their visual effects need to be adjusted!

Increasing the visibility (size) of the visual effects for spells better not be the extent of their changes.

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Agreed. The casting animations (aka the single stupid hand flick) and the spell effect animations themselves BOTH need updating.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

It was a serious question.

I didn't mean to imply Bayohne didn't know what he was talking about, but half of the thread doesn't so I had to clarify ; ;

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Well, to answer directly to that (I have no idea on responses on this thread).

They already tweaked spell animations by making them bigger. We had enough of that xD

Casting animation is definitely lacking, although in most MMO's or even most games related to magic casting usually theres only two diversification on the animation, the Black magic is cast this way, the black magic that way. XI had four casting animations for each type of magic, summoning, black, white and blue (Dont remember how they handled scholar) So it will be interesting to see how the implement these changes, hope they are cool and varied.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The development team is currently looking into making positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON. :)

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Well, it's brief and to the point, but it's a response. Thank you, Bayohne, for taking the time to look into this for us. I hope that as more information becomes available, you will share it with us ASAP.

"Looking into" something isn't the same as actually in the process of working to implement. Sounds like these positive changes are only in the planning stage. In other words, they are most likely many many moons away from implementation. Still, it's better than nothing. :D

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Originally Posted by Holland

Well, to answer directly to that (I have no idea on responses on this thread).

They already tweaked spell animations by making them bigger. We had enough of that xD

Casting animation is definitely lacking, although in most MMO's or even most games related to magic casting usually theres only two diversification on the animation, the Black magic is cast this way, the black magic that way. XI had four casting animations for each type of magic, summoning, black, white and blue (Dont remember how they handled scholar) So it will be interesting to see how the implement these changes, hope they are cool and varied.

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Don't forget Ninjutsu, Bard songs, and Dances.

By the way thank you so much Bayohne for a reply!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Lessee what players are saying about the latest post I made! Just gonna click this thread titled "[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love"... Just gotta scroll past my latest post which mentions "positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON"... read the latest post...

*head asplodes*

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*stares at the mess* I am not cleaning that up! Malboro bits all over... Can we get like a hundred crafters and a recipe that uses malboro in it?

So I am liking some of the casting animations. My favorite is the one used by archers. But yea, some variations would be nice.

Yeah I like the casting animations on the DoW classes lol

But I'm talking about improvements to the casting animations like magic circles, glowing sigils/runes, etc.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Why you hatin' bro >.>

XD

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Welcome to the "I have blown bayhone's mind" club.

hopefully the animations will also include casting in passive mode.

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Originally Posted by DonMega

hopefully the animations will also include casting in passive mode.

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This has been stated numerous times and is even in 1.18's patch notes... it'll be here by 1.19

I dont think he was teasing, I think he was surprised not much had been said yet

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The development team is currently looking into making positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON. :)

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Please forward to the dev team that I want my magic animations to look almost equal to this
http://youtu.be/kJ2aPHnxO8M

I'm not even kidding (of course make it to where it fits in an MMO though). IX had some of the best spell animations in all of the FF titles (IMO). And they kinda went meh after. Although XIII's were very pretty~ Spells should be flashy, and make you go OHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH when you cast one.

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Spells should be flashy, and make you go OHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH when you cast one.

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I find it ironic that FF players want spells to look like fireworks, but then complain about glowing weapons. Make up your minds, lol! :P

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Lessee what players are saying about the latest post I made! Just gonna click this thread titled "[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love"... Just gotta scroll past my latest post which mentions "positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON"... read the latest post...

*head asplodes*

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Threads regarding the visual effects for spells that never received a rep response: 1, 2, 3.

Can you confirm that they plan to improve the visual effects of existing spells?

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Originally Posted by Alyssa

On a related note, I think it would be cool if there was an option to toggle an effect that lets the caster see the circular/conical radius of their AoEs. It could be displayed when you select the ability, before you use it.

Here are two god-awful drawings that I slapped together really quick in Microsoft Paint to illustrate what I mean, lol:
CON
THM

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lol Aly I love your drawings

Holland: XI had different animations per magic type and they were job-independent. Black, White, Songs, Ninjutsu, Summons, and Blue. WHM BLM RDM PLD DRK SCH all used the same Black/White animations.

There were also a few job ability animations, though Dancer added greatly to that number and AFAIK is the

...Okay apparently the mobile site has a character limit for replies.

As I was saying, AFAIK DNC is the only XI job with a large number of unique JA animations. Also, JA animations that are also /emote commands.

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Originally Posted by Misha

This has been stated numerous times and is even in 1.18's patch notes... it'll be here by 1.19

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Can you link the source please? I guess I missed this thing, actually I remember someone saying they were never gonna let us cast in passive mode.
And that makes sense since... well you have in refresh in pasive mode ">.>

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Lessee what players are saying about the latest post I made! Just gonna click this thread titled "[dev1032] Spell Casting Animations Needs More Love"... Just gotta scroll past my latest post which mentions "positive adjustments in regards to the casting animations for THM and CON"... read the latest post...

*head asplodes*

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I have a question.

Would it be possible to have spells like DoT or DoH produce a recurring effect on tic? This is something that always bugged me on FFXI -- there was a lack of feeling of effect/potency when using Effect over Time, spells. It was a particularly big deal for me as a SCH, since Helixes were pretty massive DoT.

That aside.. make Raise/Rebirth something worth actually seeing...

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

I find it ironic that FF players want spells to look like fireworks, but then complain about glowing weapons. Make up your minds, lol! :P

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Glowing weapons/armor just gets old. When you get to higher levels and everyone is basically a mismatched blob of aura -- it gets really annoying and boring.

Glowing =/= effects. I wouldn't mind seeing certain weapons that had intricate effects around them -- like a high level elemental staff that had particles of its specific element orbiting the headpiece, or a sword with veins of magical energy that ran up and down it. Having a bland iron sword that glows isn't special -- its a total cop out.

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

I find it ironic that FF players want spells to look like fireworks, but then complain about glowing weapons. Make up your minds, lol! :P

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Such fools they are. I'm not really one for glowing armor, however glowing weapons, when done right, are amazing

I'd like to see actual elemental projectiles being released from mage wands and staffs, not just cast and see it hit the target.

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Originally Posted by Len

Threads regarding the visual effects for spells that never received a rep response: 1, 2, 3.

Can you confirm that they plan to improve the visual effects of existing spells?

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Hey Len,
Great question! What you're asking about, while not covered in the threads you listed, has actually been discussed in separate threads since the spell effect sizes were enhanced earlier this year. Here are the links to those two posts: 1, 2.

Hope this puts your mind at ease!
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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Hey Len,
Great question! What you're asking about, while not covered in the threads you listed, has actually been discussed in separate threads since the spell effect sizes were enhanced earlier this year. Here are the links to those two posts: 1, 2.

Hope this puts your mind at ease!
:)

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Thanks for that info Bayohne! woo.

Off topic, but maybe related: Now, I would like to ask if its possible, like in your first link, to have members of the development team respond directly to questions and concerns of the community whenever they have the time? I know they must be very busy with 1.19, but just like Yoshi takes the time to read the forums (Every day it seems), Id be happy to hear the voice of other Dev Team members and what they think of suggestions pertaining to their respective area of work.

Edit: I understand you are basically doing the same thing I am requesting, but still, seeing some other Dev team members responses in the JP forums would be cool. I understand also the responses would be completely in JP probably, but a translation after a few hours is not bad at all =p

Great thread, Definitely agree. Could use alot of love.
way out of FF standards, All other FF's had a more prominent effect and feel in their magic.
This does make a big difference to the game.

/support

would be awesome to see the old traditional version of Blizzard, with pillars of ice sprouting from the ground and trapping the enemy for a bit, and then the ice breaks and fades away. That the kind of effect i'd like to see. Right now, they aren't at all any interesting to look at. The only spell i like seeing is Fire, since it has that explosion sound.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Hey Len,
Great question! What you're asking about, while not covered in the threads you listed, has actually been discussed in separate threads since the spell effect sizes were enhanced earlier this year. Here are the links to those two posts: 1, 2.

Hope this puts your mind at ease!
:)

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Thanks for posting those rep responses, I honestly did search for any before making my post.