Letter from the Producer, XIV (07/20/2011)

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There should be clear-cut goals, and a sense of accomplishment when you achieve them.

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Good.
I'm glad he seems to think so too.

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Originally Posted by Silent

This is a great letter! You can tell by how he wrote it that he's more relaxed, man I'll bet it was very stressful getting this patch prepared. He seems excited himself about it! I can't wait to get started!

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Silent? Did you play FFXI on Titan server? o.O


Also, AWESOME letter! :D I'm so excited for tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by MattyWS

I know the old dev team said they had no intentions of making it possible to not have a weapon equipped, but I hope that this will be possible soon, as a swim suit with a sword or great axe on your back doesn't really say festival time.

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Maybe, but these guys don't seem to let it ruin their fun.

http://www.norcalblogs.com/post_scripts/noname432.jpg

or her fun, either.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1tk0c4Dzgb...bikini+gun.jpg

See ... she's smiling.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

And I do kind of still like the game even though Yoshi tries his damned hardest to make me hate it.

Besides, you should be grateful someone around here actually wants stuff. Everyone else here just wants to be boring and grind more levels. (true!)

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EVERYONE here wants stuff. They just don't want YOUR stuff getting into the game, each for their own reasons I suppose. Just because nobody liked your ideas doesn't mean they don't want things added to this game. I know for a fact MOST people DON'T want to be grinding through it all because that's boring. However, right now grinding is the most effective way to go about it when not doing a Behest. Raptors anyone?

Also, "Derp" is a very popular term in the recent months/this last year. I'm sure Japan has it's own online memes, so Yoshi used one in a humorous tone and the translators picked Derp as the translation because it IS popular. I know I laughed when I saw it. I didn't look down on Yoshi-P. Sheesh. Honestly, I think the only reason you decided to pick that out of the letter to complain about is because you couldn't find anything else to complain about in the letter. BUT you had to complain about SOMETHIN', so you probably figured you'd might as well make fun of the translators.

I think it would've been funnier had he shown the male Roegadyn, then you clicked it you see a big "PSYCH" on top with a male Miqo'te in a swimsuit, then he's like ok trust me this time, click again and see a female Roegadyn and female lalafell playing in the water with "improvement right?" on top. Finally he's like ok ok click on it again and you see the pics that were on the first click of this letter lol.

That's just me though, I'm pretty sure they have the models worked out for the male/female of those races so this would've been an amusing time to reveal them even if they have no plans to release them for a few updates. But I'm not wrong when they did make mention about releasing them right lol?

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Originally Posted by Airget

I think it would've been funnier had he shown the male Roegadyn, then you clicked it you see a big "PSYCH" on top with a male Miqo'te in a swimsuit, then he's like ok trust me this time, click again and see a female Roegadyn and female lalafell playing in the water with "improvement right?" on top. Finally he's like ok ok click on it again and you see the pics that were on the first click of this letter lol.

That's just me though, I'm pretty sure they have the models worked out for the male/female of those races so this would've been an amusing time to reveal them even if they have no plans to release them for a few updates. But I'm not wrong when they did make mention about releasing them right lol?

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Ether Way, gotta love Yoshi's spirit and humor^^ It's rare you ever see a dev with emotion if at all on any mmo >.< Regardless of choices he's made or making with the game, it's always refreshing to see him act and talk like a human rather than a "Robot" like devs from other mmo's :P

Good letter! I can't wait for patch day.

My lalafell is going to look awesome in his thong.. er swimtrunks /chuckle

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Originally Posted by MattyWS

I know the old dev team said they had no intentions of making it possible to not have a weapon equipped, but I hope that this will be possible soon, as a swim suit with a sword or great axe on your back doesn't really say festival time.

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/display main off
/display sub off

turns off main and sub weapon but when in active mode shows up.
Problem solved...

would kind of look weird when weapon magically shows up when going into active mode imo.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Good.
I'm glad he seems to think so too.

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This is the equivalent of "I think games should be fun."

HE AGREES WITH ME WOOOOOOOO

Wait so, is the guildleve reform in this patch or the next one? I'm hoping this one, but more changes coming in 1.19. :3

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Originally Posted by Shura

Am i misunderstand this or is he implying that Guildleve changes are pushed back to 1.19?

Other then that very interesting letter, can't wait for the next one to learn about future content and changes. I do hope Anima is nerfed in some way when mounts/airships get added though. i know a lot of ppl who current use port mules to teleport around without wasting their own Anima. Unless teleporting is limited somehow, i don't see ppl choosing mounts/ships over teleport since porting is still the fastest way to travel.

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I think he was referring to the concept of changing it from 8 a day to a more open ended the number of leves you can get will build over time system.

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Originally Posted by FlynnRider

Wait so, is the guildleve reform in this patch or the next one? I'm hoping this one, but more changes coming in 1.19. :3

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Should be this one and more in 1.19 with the reservation system etc.

It sounds like maybe they're holding back a little on the alteration of guildleves until 1.19? Sounds like a good decision to me if that's the case.

Sounds like we haven't had the full patch listing yet...

I'd have to guess it was the translator that added the extra flare to the letter. It would be pretty awesome if it was translated as literally as possible (while still making sense), though.

Ponies and rainbows!

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Originally Posted by Kailok

EVERYONE here wants stuff. They just don't want YOUR stuff getting into the game, each for their own reasons I suppose. Just because nobody liked your ideas doesn't mean they don't want things added to this game. I know for a fact MOST people DON'T want to be grinding through it all because that's boring. However, right now grinding is the most effective way to go about it when not doing a Behest. Raptors anyone?

Also, "Derp" is a very popular term in the recent months/this last year. I'm sure Japan has it's own online memes, so Yoshi used one in a humorous tone and the translators picked Derp as the translation because it IS popular. I know I laughed when I saw it. I didn't look down on Yoshi-P. Sheesh. Honestly, I think the only reason you decided to pick that out of the letter to complain about is because you couldn't find anything else to complain about in the letter. BUT you had to complain about SOMETHIN', so you probably figured you'd might as well make fun of the translators.

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A common expression around here used to be "Well I got along just fine in FFXI without [said feature], so there's no reason to implement it."

It is this kind of mentality which inspired such sentiments within me. From my perspective, it seems like a lot of people would be happy with less rather than more. And their reasoning: "just because". (that's their only reason or something).

As for the lack of professionalism on Yoshi's part, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and casting the blame on the translators. But perhaps the fault lies squarely with Yoshi? Derp is such an infantile turn of phrase, hardly befitting to one so powerful and esteemed as Yoshi.

FFXIV is a very artistic enterprise... and to have it sullied with such asinine verbiage - well, you can scarcely blame me for thinking it inappropriate.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Derp is such an infantile turn of phrase, hardly befitting to one so powerful and esteemed as Yoshi.

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Yes because game development is such a proper and noble profession. One must keep only the highest of moral and maturity standards while developing video games. We can't have anything less than the most professional of developers on all video games.

And then we have games like Shadow of the Damned which tend to be one giant boner joke while still being a great game. Games like the Saint's Row series don't take themselves that seriously and are pretty awesome. Some of the most fun games out there have been pretty silly, hardly mature and pretty damn funny.

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Originally Posted by mysterytaru

Oh. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that if we don't want the exact thing you want, we don't want anything. You post demands for useless shit when there are more important things the game needs, you complain about little shit all day long, and then you get pissy when people attack you and your posts. Protip: It's not us that has the problem.

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Why do you speak in second-person like Gollum from Lord of the Rings?

Either you have a severe case of split-personality disorder or you're just vouching for a collective you cannot truly claim to speak for.

In any case, I explained myself, like, in the post right before your tirade about me, just in case you're curious as to what I meant or why I had such an impression.

It's only fair for me to make such an assumption , after all. If all you hear day after day is something along the lines of "please do not add stuff to FFXIV because it's not needed" then you can hopefully appreciate where I am coming from.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Yes because game development is such a proper and noble profession. One must keep only the highest of moral and maturity standards while developing video games. We can't have anything less than the most professional of developers on all video games.

And then we have games like Shadow of the Damned which tend to be one giant boner joke while still being a great game. Games like the Saint's Row series don't take themselves that seriously and are pretty awesome. Some of the most fun games out there have been pretty silly, hardly mature and pretty damn funny.

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While I can appreciate Yoshi's candour, I am not particularly enamoured with his display of coarseness.

The demographic for Final Fantasy games is much more intellectual than your average gaming community. That is why we do not have jump or swim. Because such things are beneath us. We also do not need voice-overs, because you see, reading is a higher art form. These low-brow games of which you speak, I never much fancied them to tell you the honest truth, and I dare say I never will. Personally, I shudder to think what will happen to the moral institution that is Final Fantasy if it becomes so corrupted to follow in pursuit of those games for a "quick buck".

This use of the word 'derp' is a definite departure from the norm, and I would caution we not tread too far down this path.

It's just not very "Final Fantasy".

I thought it was a female Roe when you clicked. I was like "shut up shut up shut up... Oh..."

Anyways, letter sounded good. Can't wait to try on the bathing suits. Hopefully lots of different colors!

Love the derping part. I'm really excited to be returning to Eorzea soon!

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Originally Posted by giftforce

A common expression around here used to be "Well I got along just fine in FFXI without [said feature], so there's no reason to implement it."

It is this kind of mentality which inspired such sentiments within me. From my perspective, it seems like a lot of people would be happy with less rather than more. And their reasoning: "just because". (that's their only reason or something).

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I'm probably speaking on my own behalf but I am sure some will agree with me. I don't think people meant that we are fine without it or having FFXIV be like FFXI. I think at the moment, the way FFXIV is at, it would be nice for a NEWER game to be at least FFXI quality in gameplay and community.. etc. I believe the two upcoming updates (1.18 and 1.19) is getting very close to the same feeling we have with FFXI. Not saying FFXIV should be exactly like FFXI, I'm just talking about feelings and the sense of familiarity. Of course once FFXIV get to where FFXI is at... I am sure everyone is opened up to new implements and features that other MMO have but yet stick with the FF ways that we enjoy most.

I know how hard it is to pick up someone's work and having to turn it around in a short amount of time with CLIENTS (us players) constantly behind your back wishing to change this and that while you already have a plan.

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Originally Posted by mysterytaru

That's a collective we, not a royal we. You use 'the people on these forums' and I use 'we'. It's inclusive rather than exclusive, like you seem to prefer to create an air of 'I'm the victim!' You whine, complain and generally make an ass of yourself and then get huffy and throw a tantrum when you're called on it. If anything would make the game and forums better right now, it would be your absence.

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Well if you can think of a better way to convey such concepts, I would love to hear it. But alas I am not Shakespeare so until then you'll have to excuse my not-entirely-perfect manner of speech. Sorry we can't all be perfect like you.

What I am most afraid of is the departure of Final Fantasy from its roots. You see, like a tree, Final Fantasy has roots. And, like a tree, it may bend toward the light a little, but stray too far and it will break.

And as the saying goes, if a tree falls in the forest...

We must uphold the sacred institution of 'Final Fantasy' at all costs, even if it means omitting the terms "derp" from our vocabularies. Whatever it takes.

I'm not agreeing with giftforce's whining about the use of the colloquialism "derp", but I must point out that nowhere in the original Japanese text of Yoshi's letter are the words "derp" or "ponies" found.

That said, I am glad they are in the English translation. They are used properly.

I wanted to say about the bathing suits being introduced I liked the idea but why do the males have to have those retarded chest straps? Also don't forget to go ahead and make them for the male Miqote and the female Roegadyn. Good job on with this patch it has even a bit more content then I expected it to have, hopefully you can give us an estimate when we can expect to see 1.19 come our way, like 1 month or less?

... ... ... ... ... Where's the Elezen female swimsuit model D:

(Square Enix and its affiliates are in no way liable for raid wipes resulting from adventurers entering boss fights armored in bathing suits.)

You guys can't tell a parody when you see one?

I am doing an impersonation of the typical FF fanatic who tries to sabotage any addition to this game on the basis of "it's not Final Fantasy enough."

You see the irony?

When I (and others) have suggested adding voice overs, the response has been a resounding "learn to read", "final fantasy games are intellectual", "this isn't some derpy WoW game".

The same thing with jump, really.

So it's just really funny (from my perspective) when the same community has a positive reaction to Yoshi when he uses the word derp and so on (not that he specifically used it, as it so turns out). It seems ironic and borderline hypocritical from my vantage point.

Ahaha.

(Well I amused myself at least... maybe you had to be there)

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Originally Posted by giftforce

You guys can't tell a parody when you see one?

I am doing an impersonation of the typical FF fanatic who tries to sabotage any addition to this game on the basis of "it's not Final Fantasy enough."

You see the irony?

When I (and others) have suggested adding voice overs, the response has been a resounding "learn to read", "final fantasy games are intellectual", "this isn't some derpy WoW game".

The same thing with jump, really.

So it's just really funny (from my perspective) when the same community has a positive reaction to Yoshi when he uses the word derp and so on (not that he specifically used it, as it so turns out).

(Well I amused myself at least... maybe you had to be there)

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Maybe it's just their reaction to you in general. To me, it's like "Damn, that rash is back again"...

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

... ... ... ... ... Where's the Elezen female swimsuit model D:

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You and I have one more day to fantasize about it, then it will be a reality.

Ohh, if I close my eyes I can see it now.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Maybe it's just their reaction to you in general. To me, it's like "Damn, that rash is back again"...

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/thwaps durti on the nose
bad troll feeder! bad, bad

You know, we don't fawn over the male character models so I don't know why the female ones deserve to get so ... objectified.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

This is the equivalent of "I think games should be fun."

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Well I was beginning to wonder.

Not really sure what the point of this letter was, but communication never hurts.

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

Not really sure what the point of this letter was, but communication never hurts.

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You must've not clicked on the image of the Roegadyn in a swimsuit.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

(Square Enix and its affiliates are in no way liable for raid wipes resulting from adventurers entering boss fights armored in bathing suits.)

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I take that as a challenge...so who will be first to beat a dungeon or at least a boss in their swimsuits?

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

I was (partially) disappointed after clicking the image. When it said



I was expecting a female Roegadyn. :(

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I thought the exact same thing :/

By the way, did anyone notice his My Little Pony reference? lol

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Originally Posted by Khalus

I take that as a challenge...so who will be first to beat a dungeon or at least a boss in their swimsuits?

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Since they not redoing stat algorithms till 1.19, I dont think it would be very hard.

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Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

By the way, did anyone notice his My Little Pony reference? lol

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The translator added that reference. There is no mention of ponies, rainbows, or the word 'derp' in Yoshida's original Japanese letter.

Personally, I'd rather they would keep the translation as close as possible. These embellishments come off as cheesy and pedestrian IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

The translator added that reference. There is no mention of ponies, rainbows, or the word 'derp' in Yoshida's original Japanese letter.

Personally, I'd rather they would keep the translation as close as possible. These embellishments come off as cheesy and pedestrian IMHO.

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I'm sure you meant to say "equestrian".