Monk Rant

The original speedy job... should be less busy?

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

The original speedy job... should be less busy?

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Ninja and Viper are busy jobs.. Samurai and Monk should have cast being same sub role "striking"

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Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz

What's annoying is that they killed monk, almost no one cared.

They did the exact same changes to Viper and there were 1000 threads.

People really do pick a job exclusively based on aesthetics.

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Well with monk is more of the usual. One expac is good, the next one is gutted, so following the pattern, 8.0 monk should be good again

/s

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Originally Posted by Waterscape

add a dragon animation to dragon kick , add a snake animation to twin snake.. cmon now. took them 10 years to finally give animation to mnk combo they could atleast do it fully

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If done right... the roar of Pouncing Coeurl annoys me personally.

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Originally Posted by Tunda

Ninja and Viper are busy jobs.. Samurai and Monk should have cast being same sub role "striking"

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Why do you want monk to be slower?
It has fine pacing at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

Why do you want monk to be slower?
It has fine pacing at the moment.

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It is just an opinion.. I don't think we need more oGCD to current monk design

It just need to be more inline with its identity as a strking..

Sharing same gear with no common gameplay is meaningless

Monks only busy aspects should be management, the timers were good for this, the positionals were good for this, blitz is okay for this. Spamming oGCDs is SAMs and DRGs thing I think having a Monk with a million weaves would kill the job for everyone.

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

It is just an opinion.. I don't think we need more oGCD to current monk design

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I agree. Monk already has fast rolling GCDs and not that much oGCDs to press except during 2min burst windows. Someone must be aware of this because we didn't get a single new oGCD attack this expansion, and this is me being generous and ignoring their oversights of numbers + bugs like bootDK for week1 DT.

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

It just need to be more inline with its identity as a strking..

Sharing same gear with no common gameplay is meaningless

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Casters share the same gear, yet something like BLM, RDM and SMN are in entirely different leagues of how they function in play.
People are craving for job identity but at the same time are pushing for homogenization? It just makes no sense logically speaking.

At the end of the day, while it's always interesting to see the concepts that people come up with, I'm just expressing that I am opposed to Monks being moulded into Samurai2.0, or any other class for that fact, it has its own lane, let it sit in there.

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

I agree. Monk already has fast rolling GCDs and not that much oGCDs to press except during 2min burst windows. Someone must be aware of this because we didn't get a single new oGCD attack this expansion, and this is me being generous and ignoring their oversights of numbers + bugs like bootDK for week1 DT.



Casters share the same gear, yet something like BLM, RDM and SMN are in entirely different leagues of how they function in play.
People are craving for job identity but at the same time are pushing for homogenization? It just makes no sense logically speaking.

At the end of the day, while it's always interesting to see the concepts that people come up with, I'm just expressing that I am opposed to Monks being moulded into Samurai2.0, or any other class for that fact, it has its own lane, let it sit in there.

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Before Viper release monk used to be a fast gcd job like Ninja

But after Viper release "scouting" gear has this identity fast based jobs who can be melee and have in their core dps kit range attacks.

That shake the identity of monk to me personally..
I feel like monk do not belong to "scouting" and also doesn't feel like samurai "striking"

Ninja and viper gameplay is so similar but approach the "scouting" identity very differently..
I feel like other subroles should feel like this..

Sub role should have an impact in the gameplay aspect of the jobs.


Regarding casters.. it is very different subject.

To me BLM and PCT should be in a separate sub class in casters

And red mage + summoner have their own sub class.

But this idea require a rework to the utility aspect of PCT.. remove them completely and it should have same downsides of BLM without feel the same job

Scouting should be the standard of making a subrole identity without being homogenized

I will give ab example of other game:

Monster hunter world:
Both greatsword and hammer have charge attacks but both of them play very differently.

Having common mechanic =/ homonization