So Second Coil has been destroyed

My static cleared t9 yesterday, the last day before these nerfs. And we were so happy that we managed to make this in time. Now imagine, what our feelings will be if we clear it today with echo (and having a feeling, that we did this because of echo actually)? Yay, but not much...

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Originally Posted by Osmond

If ppl already beaten 2nd coil why complain that the mechanics you like isn't there? Why do ppl do that?

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Some people, like me, enjoy doing the fights in SCoB and with some of these nerfs the fights could turn into a snoozefest. I am glad they didn't remove any mechanics in t9 because I don't want my favourite fight in the game to become boring.

they should get rid of golems in t9 that sh*t was BS :\

These fools who be complaining about nerfs to coil be the sames ones who be like I cannot find XXX job to replace my XXX who just left our static! SE please! Then, they nerf SCoB add upgrade mats to Syrcus Tower (god I will enjoy the QQ when World of Darkness comes out) to help players to the new tier of raiding/endgame, and people still whine. They are expanding your possible pool of raiders, and I swear the first response that went through your head was probably, "NO THEY JUST ADDING BADDIES TO IT!". Yes they are bad, but whats stopping you from making them good. My BLM was terrible in 2.0 and when I say terrible I mean f***in terrible. 2.4 he's a monster and loyal to the static. I'd rather pick up a loyal baddie and train them, then get some flakey world first hungry player who already has skills.

So yeah, uh, servers are up. Y'all can go check out the second coil now. :)

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

But you can never really lose, no matter how much you die, no matter how many times you fail you can never "lose" the game. You just have to retry as many times as it takes you to "win".

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Yeah well, that's why they are games. Because you can retry.
This does not change the fact that you reach a point where you can hardly fail at something if it becomes too easy - thus, making it impossible to fail unless external influence not related to your skills is involved.
But in general I agree with your statement: "you just have to retry as many times as it takes you to win", which usually means that you will get better at every try, until your skills will reach a high enough level to clear the content. As I have already said, it's a matter of effort. Dumbing down the difficulty is just an insult to the intelligence of players - this is why I don't understand how people can be happy when nerfs happen (unless the pre-nerf version of something was making the fight literally unbeatable, which is not the case currently).
SE is literally saying that you are bad and you need an easier version if you wish to progress.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

And your answer to that question can be used for the original question! Many people do find the tediousness of finding a group and making sure everyone knows what to do and spending hours on end to make failed attempts is something they'd say is boring! :)

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There are different kinds of "boring". One thing is finding a challenge so trivial that it's hardly fun or satisfying to overcome it - another thing is being "bored" (I'd say "frustrated" is a better term for it, tho) by other people's failures. I can relate to that, but as I said in another reply: never surrender.

Good naw i can do my vanity runs without waiting for static or friends lol

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Originally Posted by Dashuto

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Off topic, but...

Your name sounds familiar...did you ever have a Castrum Meridianum run where there was a new MNK that fell behind and got lost, some jerk kept insulting said MNK for not being able to read their uncompleted map, and then stayed for a bit after with the MNK to show them a few things like using the cannons?

I feel the OP is very insulting.
There are many Casual players who have tried so many times to Pass T5 and have failed.
Some continue, few passed, Many gave up.
I support SE Decision to allows the Second Coil in DF so they may progress.
I don't see any damage in this.
So OP, You better NOT post this kind of thread and title because you are INSULTING casual gamers!!!!

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Originally Posted by Empressia

Good naw i can do my vanity runs without waiting for static or friends lol

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Hope you have better luck than me, around 20 T9 kills later and I still haven't seen a single one of the four items I've been missing drop.