[Reminder] Are you ready to cry again? (2° Wave of Alpha invites tomorrow, 3 dec.)

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Originally Posted by Goufunaki

I now know for a fact both active and inactive accounts are getting in. But with limited space, not everyone is getting in.

Chill. :p

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No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting for an official statement. Please.

^Inviting inactives is unacceptable.

I think I'm going to feel sick now.

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Originally Posted by Goufunaki

Everyone had the opportunity at filling out a form for alpha invites.
They were selected based on their answers.

I now know for a fact both active and inactive accounts are getting in. But with limited space, not everyone is getting in.

Chill. :p

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Ur theory doesnt match. I have filled up the form on the first day. way before one of my friends, and he pretty much gave the same answer as i did cause we have the exact same PC except for HDD and for the playing time. But for the other stuff we pretty much gave the same answer. He got chosen, i did not. I think SE just go f**kin Random.

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Originally Posted by Phe

No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting on an official statement. Please.

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As Long as the people that are getting invited are actually "Helping" make this game the best it can be, Then I have no problem letting inactives play, as it will draw in more players this way than with people that are more or less fanatics of the game FFXIV. However, I do agree that they shouldn't put up False information up, as that is bad business practice.

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Originally Posted by Phe

No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting for an official statement. Please.

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Yeah, this is quite puzzling... How do inactive accounts sign up? Is there another application site for them?

For fun, I tried to sign up with an inactive account and got this:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8...plicationa.png

Congrats :(

I can understand why people want to rage over alpha and whatnot but try to stay calm =) Once ARR is out we can all play to our heart's content

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Originally Posted by Phe

No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting for an official statement. Please.

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I would like to know the answer to this too, although it won't make any difference at this point.

If the people invited do not play, it just means more people will get invited next time.

Mr. I Demand an Answer, you will not get one because questions about the selection process were explicitly stated to not be answerable.

I know that i'll likely be stoned to death but for me (i haven't get a invite) it seems logical that they are giving invites to people that haven't had a active account in a while. I think that they are trying to make them come back showing how ARR run.

I don't like it but seems logical that SE do that.

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Originally Posted by Signy

I know that i'll likely be stoned to death but for me (i haven't get a invite) it seems logical that they are giving invites to people that haven't had a active account in a while. I think that they are trying to make them come back showing how ARR run.

I don't like it but seems logical that SE do that.

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How does it seem logical? It's an alpha, it supposedly works well but it has very limited areas and content. That doesn't make people come back, it makes them go "I thought they reworked the whole thing? Why is there nothing to do?"

That's why you invite people who know what to expect.

:/ I'm just sad.

I also like "entitlement posts" a lot more than posts of those who defend the illogical selection process. They probably say that because they got in. lol

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Originally Posted by TohruHonda

LOL I GOT IN.

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how long was your account inactive?

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Originally Posted by tobyx

How does it seem logical? It's an alpha, it supposedly works well but it has very limited areas and content. That doesn't make people come back, it makes them go "I thought they reworked the whole thing? Why is there nothing to do?"

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This. There's no logical or marketing advantage in inviting people that ditched the first game in a very limited alpha. A much larger beta, yeah, there'd be a reason to do that there, but at this stage inviting people with an inactive account does more damage than good.

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I also like "entitlement posts" a lot more than posts of those who defend the illogical selection process.

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Unfortunately, also this. It's really saddening to see how some people are very ready and willing to antagonize those that didn't get in. It's also common in this kind of situation, but I expected better from this community. Naive of me, I know.

Ppl can only cry about not getting in, but not even allowed to post it if they make it into alpha ^^

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

If the people invited do not play, it just means more people will get invited next time.

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We already had three next times.

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Originally Posted by Kirito

Maybe people who post on forum often or visit forum often aren't favored in terms if getting into alpha because the probability of breaking the nda is higher?

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That's kinda funny, when the first round of leaks came from someone named Kirito ;)

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

If the people invited do not play, it just means more people will get invited next time.

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A related question comes up: Unlike the previous times, they didn't say if or more importantly when the next wave go out, did they?

Does anyone have any information on that?

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Originally Posted by tobyx

A related question comes up: Unlike the previous times, they didn't say if or more importantly when the next wave go out, did they?

Does anyone have any information on that?

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That's because Mid-December is when Yoshi-p said that Alpha will come to a close, However, he did say that he may leave up the Alpha Servers if the Demand is high enough, now weather that means only those who were invited can only play or if anyone can play, that's up in the air.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

That's because Mid-December is when Yoshi-p said that Alpha will come to a close, However, he did say that he may leave up the Alpha Servers if the Demand is high enough, now weather that means only those who were invited can only play or if anyone can play, that's up in the air.

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My vote is to leave the servers up and invite ALL of the loyal fans that have supported the game through its many tribulations!

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Originally Posted by Lurex

My vote is to leave the servers up and invite ALL of the loyal fans that have supported the game through its many tribulations!

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It would probably make more sense to select a turnover date. Like on December the 1X, all those that had access to the alpha previously get locked out, and everyone else between the previously active accounts that applied gets access (no inactives this time, sorry).

Considering the size of the active community that would prevent server congestion, and would give those that supported the game what they honestly deserve.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

It would probably make more sense to select a turnover date. Like on December the 1X, all those that had access to the alpha previously get locked out, and everyone else between the previously active accounts gets access (no inactives this time).

Considering the size of the active community that would prevent server congestion, and would give those that supported the game what they honestly deserve.

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^This is a great idea!

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Originally Posted by Lurex

^This is a great idea!

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Of course the chance of that to happen is near to the 0.00001%.

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Originally Posted by Phe

No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting for an official statement. Please.

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I would like an official statement as well, along with many of us.

Deep down it will never come because they choose to hide under there tables like scared animals and not face the facts of inactive accounts are getting invited. There are other websites out there that sponsor Alpha & Beta testing for MMO's to people who just play it & never give feedback. They don't even have to have an active XIV account because the site provides that for them.

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Originally Posted by DarkkenMoneybags

I would like an official statement as well, along with many of us.

Deep down it will never come because they choose to hide under there tables like scared animals and not face the facts of inactive accounts are getting invited. There are other websites out there that sponsor Alpha & Beta testing for MMO's to people who just play it & never give feedback. They don't even have to have an active XIV account because the site provides that for them.

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I think you only need to have an active account when you apply the alpha. Today a guy that stopped paying on september got an invite.

For active FFXIV account i can only suppose that they mean you only had to register the game,
not active subscription...

Anyway it's strange that after so many whine, there isn't a single official response about this.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

For active FFXIV account i can only suppose that they mean you only had to register the game,
not active subscription...

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For the longest time after the opening of the alpha registration, if you tried to register with a lapsed account, it bounced you telling you "your account isn't active, piss off" (I paraphrased).

Only recently inactive accounts managed to get past that. So yeah, "active accounts" means exactly what it means for the rest of the industry. People that were still paying to play.

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Originally Posted by DarkkenMoneybags

I would like an official statement as well, along with many of us.

Deep down it will never come because they choose to hide under there tables like scared animals and not face the facts of inactive accounts are getting invited. There are other websites out there that sponsor Alpha & Beta testing for MMO's to people who just play it & never give feedback. They don't even have to have an active XIV account because the site provides that for them.

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You keep waiting, they said they will not provide it. The fact that they are proceeding with testing as intended only proves that they are getting what they want from their testers.

Thank them when its over.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

For active FFXIV account i can only suppose that they mean you only had to register the game,
not active subscription...

Anyway it's strange that after so many whine, there isn't a single official response about this.

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I have three accounts. Two are currently active because I paid for them right up until billing got shut off, and one is not because I stopped using it once billing started. I can not apply for the alpha with the inactive account. I know this because I tried it when people started to claim inactive accounts were getting in even though the app stated they had to be active to even apply.

I assume that the inactive accounts that were able to apply did so during the very last days of 1.0 when SE turned on all previously inactive accounts so they could log into the game. I could be wrong. I don't know since I did not try to apply with my inactive account during that time frame. It just seems like the most likely scenario to me.

To be fair to SE, they have already expressly stated they would not address topics of this nature nor do they have to. They have been, frankly, bending over backwards to squeeze in as many people as they can just to try and make people happy.

I haven't gotten an invite but I don't have sour grapes over it. I'm disappointed, don't get me wrong, but I understand how these things work. The bottom line is SE shouldn't have to address people that feel entitled to be in the test when those people are flat out wrong.

Starting to wonder if the inactive accounts were able to apply after SE decided to activate all the old accounts so that people could log on for the final event.

It's the only explanation I can think of off the top of my head.

Any news if we're getting more invites soon? maybe 12/12?

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Originally Posted by Wynn

The bottom line is SE shouldn't have to address people that feel entitled to be in the test when those people are flat out wrong.

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Eh, to be completely honest when you make a rule that involves your paying customers and subsequently you don't honor it, you do have to address concerns over it, or at least, it's the sensible course of action.

*checks back in thread to collect tears, gets enough to turn the Sahara into a jungle*

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

*checks back in thread to collect tears, gets enough to turn the Sahara into a jungle*

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Thanks for thinking of the earth in its time of need. Only gamer tears can heal the world.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Thanks for thinking of the earth in its time of need. Only gamer tears can heal the world.

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Its our contribution to society since some never leave the house <.<

Okay, I can't bear anymore conflicts.... First off, is Square Enix being paid for getting people to play alpha? No. Is Square Enix getting paid to pick people in alpha? No. Nor are they wanting to pay for 10 people to thoroughly read applications like a classic novel.... The point is, SE might be wanting to conserve money so, they *might* have bended the rules a little bit and are going to more of the computer generated random way of picking. Also keep in mind they are 2 months off in their road map/ plans and I'm pretty sure they don't want to lag behind even more. So in the end, by probably choosing apps randomly they are: a. saving money b. saving time by letting a computer do the picking. I haven't even been picked for alpha yet, but after all that disappointment, I lift my chin high and await the next day. Believe me, I'd whine just like those people who do if only I was half my age and if knew that someone even cared...

Disclaimer: This is all part of what I believe is happening it not necessarily is true. Just my thoughts is all! :)

My only real disappointment is seeing some people get their second and third invites while some people haven't had any.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

Starting to wonder if the inactive accounts were able to apply after SE decided to activate all the old accounts so that people could log on for the final event.

It's the only explanation I can think of off the top of my head.

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Oh that would definitely explain it. I'm a coder so I'm 99% sure you are right with that. Unforeseen occurrences like that happen all the time.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

My only real disappointment is seeing some people get their second and third invites while some people haven't had any.



Oh that would definitely explain it. I'm a coder so I'm 99% sure you are right with that. Unforeseen occurrences like that happen all the time.

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Honestly, with the way they were thinking with allowing EVERYONE to flood the 1.0 servers, they probably weren't thinking about it opening the floodgates for applications. It would explain why at first, applications were denied, but were allowed some time after the servers went down.

This was my first thought when people started reporting these "inactive" accounts, but I figured someone would have a better explanation <.<

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Originally Posted by Phe

No. No i'm not going to chill.

On the application page it says:

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.
I don't see why inactive accounts are preferred over active longtime 1.0 players.

I'm still waiting for an official statement. Please.

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You are WRONG. My brother wanted to sign up for Alpha and had an inactive account.

IT DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW YOU TO APPLY FOR ALPHA UNLESS YOUR ACCOUNT IS ACTIVE.

Every account accepted into Alpha thus far is an active account, because the application only allows those with active accounts to fill it out.

So those "Inactive" accounts are people whom.

1. Took the time to make their account active (this signs them up for recurring billing? I think)
2. Then took the time to fill out the Alpha application.

Its not just picking random inactive accounts, so please stop trying to force feed people wrong information.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

You are WRONG. My brother wanted to sign up for Alpha and had an inactive account.

IT DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW YOU TO APPLY FOR ALPHA UNLESS YOUR ACCOUNT IS ACTIVE.

Every account accepted into Alpha thus far is an active account, because the application only allows those with active accounts to fill it out.

So those "Inactive" accounts are people whom.

1. Took the time to make their account active (this signs them up for recurring billing? I think)
2. Then took the time to fill out the Alpha application.

Its not just picking random inactive accounts, so please stop trying to force feed people wrong information.

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It really depends WHEN he applied, because there are confirmed reports (Nix's husband) of "inactive" accounts getting an invite.

It could be that they were open by accident after the final event on the 11th, and SE went and ninja fixed it. Or it could still be unfixed as of today.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

It really depends WHEN he applied, because there are confirmed reports (Nix's husband) of "inactive" accounts getting an invite.

It could be that they were open by accident after the final event on the 11th, and SE went and ninja fixed it. Or it could still be unfixed as of today.

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It is definitely working the way it is supposed to currently. I attempted to test with my inactive account again to see what would happen. *denied*