Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

The Porta Decumana, new main story trial. Easy peasy you say. Ha! Problems started from the very begining.
First, tank forgot their stance. Nothing new and not a big deal in comparison, mentioning just for the record.
Titan does big boom then line aoes, puddles... you know. Then the second boom (still Titan). Then the third... I started to suspect something wrong. Everyone say "ACT this, ACT that...". And you know what? You don't need third-party tools too see when someone slacks. Looked at the party window. Bard - 80+lvl, blm - 80+lvl, pld... actually don't remember, but anyway they at least tried. Blm though ~ blizzard 3 - fire 3 - blizzard 3 - fire 3 - blAAAAARGH!! I don't know, how bard performed, but I highly doubt if they really tried things wouldn't be so bad.
Ok, we finished first phase. Hurray, i guess? *harold_hide_the_pain.jpg*
Second phase. Suddenly group forgot they have move-buttons. Big green laser? Nah. Stack marker? Well, stack with your fairy. Radial explosions? Moving for losers. In addition to that bard began to show suicidal tendencies. If they by any miracle stand in a safe spot, they suddenly start running exactly to their doom.
My Aetherflaw was on constant cd. My fairy hated me. My mana was drained. I was drained. My eye twitched like it was signaling with sos in morse code.
Finally, an Ultima attack. Did you ever wipe on it due to lack of damage? We barely, barely avoided it. I believe it was less than a second before explosion.

I just...

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Originally Posted by Cheremia

Who cares if it's 1 out of 23 people?
It still goes faster if everybody is alive and presses the big damage buttons.

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Back in the before-times, when Praetorium was still the old cutscene-heavy form, I remember a group where we had two AFKers at the beginning who got called out and laughed it off as it just being Praetorium, who cared? So the other six folks decided, y'know, that's fair... and all decided to sit down and AFK as well.

The two back at the beginning lost their entire minds, screaming frothing profanity about how they didn't want to be stuck in Praetorium until the duty timer ran out just because other people didn't want to do anything.

It was like "lack of self-awareness as a performance art".

Apparently, it's possible to get Seat of Sacrifice with two new tanks (nobody else was new). Even with thorough instructions, it amounted to about 25 minutes of poorly-timed LBs (and a teleport wipe) before disbanding.

It's also possible to get The Final Day with one new tank and another that says "I'm busy noob" when the LB comes up. Certainly a pointless wipe, but the new tank was a good sport and nailed it the second time.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Apparently, it's possible to get Seat of Sacrifice with two new tanks (nobody else was new). Even with thorough instructions, it amounted to about 25 minutes of poorly-timed LBs (and a teleport wipe) before disbanding.

It's also possible to get The Final Day with one new tank and another that says "I'm busy noob" when the LB comes up. Certainly a pointless wipe, but the new tank was a good sport and nailed it the second time.

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Isn't Seat of Sacrifice the first story instance that has that mechanic? I know it happens in A12, but since that's side content I can't really say it shocks me that people would mess up the timing of that(though A12 is easier to time from the countdown....SoS you need to actually time it yourself or have someone in the party shout NOW!)

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Isn't Seat of Sacrifice the first story instance that has that mechanic? I know it happens in A12, but since that's side content I can't really say it shocks me that people would mess up the timing of that(though A12 is easier to time from the countdown....SoS you need to actually time it yourself or have someone in the party shout NOW!)

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Yeah, they're the other two times where it's mandatory.

Got stuck in regular Tam-Tara last night with a tank who didn't have his stance on. It's an easy thing to forget if you get synched down though so I mentioned it to him as a reminder. He didn't respond at all and didn't turn it on. After a few pulls though I noticed that he finally did turn it on but then turned it back off again. And then kept turning it on and then off throughout the rest of the dungeon.

The only thing I can figure is that for some bizarre reason he thought it was part of his rotation and that's why he kept pushing it. Or maybe he was just doing a weird troll, I dunno. He never did respond to either me or the healer when we asked him to leave it on.

This weeks P1-4S was pretty clean except for the first group that collapsed in P1S.
People were standing in the wrong spot all the time on the shackles.

I actually think that I ended up getting kicked rofl, even tho I didn't do anything wrong.
On the attempt before that I got red 18, so I went to my spot.
Then someone else went to my spot and they didn't move they just stood there ( this same person followed me sometimes on a bunch of mechanics, I think they didn't know what to do and were just following random ppl but I am unsure ).
So I saw that red 3 and 13 were both empty, and I decided to try and adjust because the other person who was on my spot just refused to move and I went to red 3's spot.
I had no clue whether the person who took my spot was meant to be on 3 or 13 I just had to guess.
Right when I arrived on red 3's spot someone else got there, no clue if they were the real red 3 or yet another person who went wrong but wtf how am I supposed to know so I start running trying to get to red 13's spot in time and don't make it too much time wasted people just didn't move right away there was a ton of afk:ing in middle every time the shackles happened.

Everyone is all like wtf cmon again.
And I say '' sry some1 was on my spot I had to adjust but didn't make it ''.
Aaaand kicked.
Wow sorry for just stating what happened and what the problem was?
It wasn't even my fault.
Guess I should just do what everyone else does and be quiet and hope no one notices.
Sorry for trying?

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

This weeks P1-4S was pretty clean except for the first group that collapsed in P1S.
People were standing in the wrong spot all the time on the shackles.

I actually think that I ended up getting kicked rofl, even tho I didn't do anything wrong.
On the attempt before that I got red 18, so I went to my spot.
Then someone else went to my spot and they didn't move they just stood there ( this same person followed me sometimes on a bunch of mechanics, I think they didn't know what to do and were just following random ppl but I am unsure ).
So I saw that red 3 and 13 were both empty, and I decided to try and adjust because the other person who was on my spot just refused to move and I went to red 3's spot.
I had no clue whether the person who took my spot was meant to be on 3 or 13 I just had to guess.
Right when I arrived on red 3's spot someone else got there, no clue if they were the real red 3 or yet another person who went wrong but wtf how am I supposed to know so I start running trying to get to red 13's spot in time and don't make it too much time wasted people just didn't move right away there was a ton of afk:ing in middle every time the shackles happened.

Everyone is all like wtf cmon again.
And I say '' sry some1 was on my spot I had to adjust but didn't make it ''.
Aaaand kicked.
Wow sorry for just stating what happened and what the problem was?
It wasn't even my fault.
Guess I should just do what everyone else does and be quiet and hope no one notices.
Sorry for trying?

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Should of just established dominance and stood on top of the person that took your spot tbh.

Doing Sastasha for the MSQ for the first time on my alt, who's a tank. I don't know if these people were in a group together or if I just got really unlucky. DRG decides he's going to tank, so not a single pull went the way I wanted it to with him running ahead and attacking everything. (No, I was not going slow, I've tanked Sastasha numerous times on my main.)

I'm hearing heals in the background, but it's not translating to my HP bar and I'm confused because a Cure I should be a decent chunk of health at that level. I end up having to put potions on my bar because even using mitigation I'm coming uncomfortably close to dying and simply do not appear to be getting heals. I finally start paying attention to the heal amount when I do get them and it's for... 34 HP. Um. I inspect the healer, who is in the maid's outfit. Not glammed. The maid's outfit is the healer's gear. *sigh* Well, this explains a lot.

DRG manages to almost get the group killed because I go in one direction and he goes in another, the group follows him for whatever reason and the healer can't keep the DPS up with her 34 HP Cure I. I manage to solo kill my group and rush over to save them (not that I felt they deserved it at this point).

We muddy through the rest of the dungeon and I'm reminded (again) that even the easiest content can be made miserable by other players. Made me wish I'd just gone in with Duty Support, but I thought Sastasha would be a quick and easy run. Had I been a new, inexperienced player I'd have died and/or the group would've wiped numerous times. They had no way of knowing that was an alt, so it kind of ticked me off that they considered this okay for a potentially new player's first dungeon run.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Should of just established dominance and stood on top of the person that took your spot tbh.

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True lol, I was just tired of wiping and it was already over if I had stayed too so better to try and do something.
I guess the leader would rather I had just done nothing.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Should of just established dominance and stood on top of the person that took your spot tbh.

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Unironically do this in PF. Randoms don't care that you had to adjust. They only care that you weren't in your spot. Let the other guy be kicked.

Alright, rare time: I PF’ed for a few Endsinger EX as a DPS out of boredom & to keep me awake until static’s session.

1st PF says ”Let’s farm the cat!”; yeah, no. We ain’t farming it. A RPR in the party constantly siting at 7th in enmity order, being only ahead of the AST. They just stand still in the middle for their personal circle/donut/flare marker. We beat run just 2-3 GCDs from the enrage. Unsurprisingly, the BiS DNC just drop out of the party immediately after we got out & the rest just naturally falls apart.

2nd PF. This time I came in as a DNC. Partnered the NIN in the party. While we’re sorting out clock position, for whatever reason, the NIN took SW which would put them away from max melee range. I took his supposed melee spot (W) cause eh, this is PF. Fast forward for the personal marker mechanic, this NIN made a beeline toward my spot with his circle marker. I tried to adjust but it was already too late. ”I’m melee.” said the NIN… well yeah, duh. We can see that. Several more deaths follows up as the healer forgot juice the party back to healthy range then we basically failed the DPS check at 0.7%. Next attempt I just hang nicely on SW to let the NIN have their uptime… only for them to stack up those Brink of Death debuff from couple of earlier mechanics. Yeah, no: I swapped partner to the party’s RDM. Again, this party cleared really close to the actual enrage time. Unsurprisingly again, one of the healer bails without saying anything, which the rest of party soon follow suit.

3rd PF. Okay. Change of plan. I saw that practice to clear party. How about I join that one instead?

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One shot cleared it and did 3 more times of smooth farm rounds.

PF do be like that sometimes, lol.

I have definitely had similar experiences in PF, where a farm party is just a sea of wipes, so you bounce and join a clear group who proceed to be a night-and-day difference.

My theory is that you do enough farm groups and the fight starts to blur, so folks can get careless. A good clear party, folks really want that clear and so they're paying a lot more attention to the fight and respecting mechanics.

(Of course, not every clear party is like that... nor is every farm group one that's getting sloppy after 49 clears without seeing a mount drop...)

Summoner is my 2nd main job, and when I see other summoners use the Phoenix Rekindle on themselves when they absolutely don't need it, I cringe hard.

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Originally Posted by NemuNemu14

Summoner is my 2nd main job, and when I see other summoners use the Phoenix Rekindle on themselves when they absolutely don't need it, I cringe hard.

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To be honest as someone who leveled sch and didn't touch smn much at all, I have no idea how to work Phoenix properly.

Edit: I just realized a few days later how dirty this sounds now.

Ingredients:

- One job I don't understand (MNK)
- One Alliance raid I haven't done in eons (Puppet's Bunker)
- Increased latency (Materia -> Aether)

Result:

I am so, so sorry to my team for all the time I spent tanking the floor.

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Originally Posted by NemuNemu14

Summoner is my 2nd main job, and when I see other summoners use the Phoenix Rekindle on themselves when they absolutely don't need it, I cringe hard.

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I think this is the one downside to shared buttons. It's probably just getting lost in people's rotations. Anyone in range is still getting a regen, so nothing seems off.

It's not nearly as bad as the dancers that pop finish on nothing. Talk about cringe. :rolleyes:

Last night doing Normal Raid Roulette, and got Fist of the Son. I died to no healing as MT because the NIN in the group pulled while the other tank was in CS(they were supposed to be MT because they were one of those Provoke on CD types...so I dropped my stance at the trash mobs) since the SGE had Kardia on the DRK, and the SCH...Broil only. Nothing else until after our SECOND wipe. Nobody else went for the bombs, I had to run to try and get it...even if someone was right beside the transformation puddle. Nobody else turned into a bird when he was casting Boost. The NIN dropped the green goo puddle right on top of the boss...twice. The other tank refused to move the boss to a corner so the bombs could be smacked into the farthest corner. I contemplated just dropping after the second wipe, but instead I suffered through it then went to play something else to try and regain some measure of sanity.

WoD Cerberus.
Spotted yet another of those ”Delaying chain for uptime”-player, in my party.

Everytime I encounter these type of players I’d stop attacking entirely, focus target them, and stand by next to the pillar just in case they forgot the chain has a not-so-long timer. As I’ve predicted: the timer runs out; they dropped the chain. I pick up the chain immediately and reattached it to the “Open Fetter”. Crisis averted, then I typed ”That’s why you don’t hold the chain for too long :/“ in party.

They explained that they wanted to delay the chain to skip the annoying dashes but stated that somebody ‘snagged’ the chain away from them.

Yeah, no. Sorry not sorry buddy. There’s a time limit :/ Nobody can snag it away from you.

Queue into leveling roulette as healer, 1 minute in progress. It’s Castrum Abania. The 2 DPS are talking about job stones - because the GLADIATOR doesn’t have it equipped. I say, “good luck” and bounce.

Demand tougher dungeons all you want, forums. Truth of the matter is that the average player will leave those duties and eat a 30m timer anyway, rather than do them. I've gone into more in-progress Vanaspatis on my MCH than any other dungeon (including Roulettes) combined. 2-3 of them were at the last boss.

Lv53 dungeon, tank clearly job skip but before Endwalker since it was using lv70 tome gear + alliance ring. Wow... haven't seen a player hitting every aoe for a long time, normally it gives me an excuse on healing but i was playing a lv54 white mage, it wasn't any fun LOL.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Healer bails without saying anything, which the rest of party soon follow suit.

3rd PF. Okay. Change of plan. I saw that practice to clear party. How about I join that one instead?

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One shot cleared it and did 3 more times of smooth farm rounds.

PF do be like that sometimes, lol.

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Thats how PF works.


People in "enrage practice to clear" actualy consistently CARE and put effort into it, because, well they havent yet beaten it.


If you set your PF to "has to have killed" then a lot of people who only got lucky or straight up carried join thinking "oh, i beaten it ONCE so i surely am ready for a farm"
Not out of malice most of the time, but out of overconfidence.


I know for a FACT that i, regregably, caused a bunch of people to have a "clear" in some fights they REALLY should not have gotten, and that now may join farm partys because of it. Simply by Helping to adjust and cover for mistakes

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I think this is the one downside to shared buttons. It's probably just getting lost in people's rotations. Anyone in range is still getting a regen, so nothing seems off.

It's not nearly as bad as the dancers that pop finish on nothing. Talk about cringe. :rolleyes:

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Oh no..... Those dancers that do that make me want to curl up in a ball and cry

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Demand tougher dungeons all you want, forums. Truth of the matter is that the average player will leave those duties and eat a 30m timer anyway, rather than do them. I've gone into more in-progress Vanaspatis on my MCH than any other dungeon (including Roulettes) combined. 2-3 of them were at the last boss.

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We are already seeing the parallels from the bad parts of the WoW community flood XIV for the last 2 years. Are you that shocked that people are leaving duties that isn't a faceroll and the devs catering to said players?

When Alliance Roulette put in me in Orbonne Monastery a few days ago when I used WAR (tank was adventurer in need), I've been blessed with a rather smooth run where most of the players knew what they were doing. Most of the party members and I did not get knocked out at all and I got one player commendation in the end.

Saturday night I got my latest alt up to the end of Shadowbringers, sitting in the Dying Gasp queue as DPS (because story clear needs story outfit and not fancy healer glamour) looking at 2/2 tanks, 4/4 DPS and zero healers, thinking "I really need to queue trial roulette later as healer to make up for this".

Sunday, I queue for trial roulette as healer and get the Dying Gasp. Perfect.

Last night, helping my brother practice his tanking by doing roulettes and having him on VC to give pointers if need be. We queue up into Great Gubal Library (Hard) with him GNB, me DNC, and our party a RDM and SCH. SCH is silent whole time and it struggling to keep up the healing the whole dungeon. We asked with they wanted smaller pulls or if they needed help, but nothing but silence (might be a PS player because I am too and the PS keyboard is an abomination). The RDM kept going AFK and would only show up for boss fights, the explanation being that "someone fell down and got hurt". Brother mused they're probably a parent and I let my irritation fizzle because yes, life happens, I can let stuff like this go on occasion.

I ended up giving dance partner to my brother so I could cure waltz him more directly and it's not like my fellow DPS was using it's benefits anyways. Probably the most irritating run I've had in awhile, but I've also had much worse.

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Originally Posted by TsuchinokoPanda

(might be a PS player because I am too and the PS keyboard is an abomination).

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all you have to do to check if they're on a console is examine them while you're playing on the console and it shows the PSN ID in the bottom right corner of their character page thingy...

It shows yours as well Online ID: your psn name

And what Iscah said. I play on the ps5 as well as the 3 and 4 and use a keyboard to type.

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Originally Posted by TsuchinokoPanda

the PS keyboard is an abomination

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Get a USB keyboard for typing. You don't need anything special, just plug it in.

I have that weird issue (I googled it to see if it was a common problem) where when I plug in my USB keyboard it makes half of my game non interactable. Like, I can sure my hotbars and open menus, but I can't select anything in menu windows because the cursor keep flickering. It doesn't fix if I unplug, I have to reset the game by exiting then relogging. It happened a lot at Endwalker's launch last year and the only work around I found was switching to the simulated cursor mode which was really only a bandaid, but it was better than jumping back into a 3000+ people queue. I think it's because my USB keyboard has a touchpad mouse on it? Like the PS5 touchpad and it are fighting for dominance or something? But I've yet to find a fix besides buying another keyboard and hoping it works.

Had a really rough time in the seat of sacrifice the other day if that counts. Both myself and the other tank were new. We mentioned it at the beginning, no one mentioned LB3ing after the QTE. No need to explain what happened next. The whole fight up to that point was absolutely fine, everyone survived, people were dodging, damage was fine, heals were fine, no one failed the QTE, both of us tanks just messed up. Other party members explained and we said we understood, we apologized and we probably should've moved on and finished the fight with ease, right?

Someone failed the QTE afterwards. This happened twice before the other tank left. It happened four times before I gave up and left after we got a new tank. I'm genuinely certain that someone in that group was angry at us for our lack of knowledge and decided to fail the QTE to "punish" us since even one person failing the QTE wipes the entire party.

It's both funny and also extremely annoying how uptime in normal so frequently is more difficult than in Savage.
Because so many Tanks in normal have absolutely zero concept of how to handle the boss.

They're dragging them all over the place and never moving them so that you can keep hitting them when a mechanic happens and they can't tank the boss in one direction the boss is just spinning around and around the entire fight.
It's like they never move when they should and always move when they shouldn't.

If you're gonna tank then please think about what you're doing, give it some actual thought and don't just do it mindlessly.
Maybe try and play melee yourself and realize how frustrating it is and think about how you can make it less frustrating for them.

To the party I got randomly thrown into Ktsis Hyperboreia on Leveling Roulette. Apologies for first, the sync causing my tank stance to get switched off and me going unga-bunga and not noticing for a few seconds through the first big pull, second for my god awful gear - literally have no idea why the hell the roulette decided it was alright for me to get thrown into a level 87 dungeon when my main gear on my DRK is like still the Cryptlurker gear with some Ktsis accessories and Vanspati weapon (absolutely would not go into the dungeon willingly if my gear was not okay; was actually expecting a level 70 dungeon or something, I'm really tired and my brain isn't working). Third, for not noticing my DRK was at 89, which I literally could have scooped up the DRK level 89 gearset ahead of time... granted again I was not expecting roulette to throw me into a dungeon that I wouldn't willingly choose to go into with my current gear whatsoever.

And finally, so many apologies for Spectrum being a pain in the butt and dc'ing me when the first boss was at 0.4% health, literally my router didn't reconnect until a minute or two ago so I sincerely hope they kicked my character and got a new tank with (hopefully) well equipped gear. This is why I don't play on my main as much as I used to, because I hate situations that roulette ever so rarely throws me into without me being prepared ahead of time and being taken off guard. I definitely would have willingly left after the first boss was down as I hate being a detriment to the party, so I suppose it worked out either way I guess?

Literally feel like the experience was literally me going like this:
https://c.tenor.com/DHkIdy0a-UkAAAAC/loading-cat.gif

Note to self; never play when I'm super exhausted because it leads to situations where I'm not thinking x.x

Had 2 amazing frontline games back to back. One was when I was playing ninja, the other was when I was playing White Mage.

The first game.

Players were coordinating (stuns to securing kills), ninjas were assassinating and running away without pushing too hard, and lots of precision-based skirmishes happened with MCH/BRD/RPR/DRG/BLM/WHM. There were a lot of plays on sabotaging the enemy teams and pinching the enemy directly towards their base. There were good amounts of contesting and wrestling over the S ranks in Onsal Hakair. There were a good deal of summoners trying to use their LB, but they couldn't really get a good foothold with how rapidly changing the battlefield was. No one from any alliance allowed a coordinated group of SMN to get their LB off. Plus, everyone just directly slapped them to death the moment they tried to step out, or just directly sniped/targeted them from afar. LMAO. If I didn't know any better, a bunch of high ranked players joined the game. It really felt like I was playing at Platinum/Diamond again too, because I couldn't get away with most of the plays I usually do unless I played more seriously and left less openings because both grand companies immediately saw what I was planning on doing and would burst me down if I tried to attack them up front.

There was a couple of instances where the two opposing grand companies were competing for the ovoo. Our Grand company just swooped in, started harassing both of them with our attacks and took out their Battle High party members / biggest threats equally while they were still fighting each other, right before we directly went and dismantled one of the grand companies. Now that one grand company has their deaths staggered and lost their Battle High --- One party (Alliance A) went and stalled off the return point for that grand company, the 2nd alliance (Alliance B) went and fought the other grand company for the ovoo. The third alliance (C) went and provided support to the Alliance (B) for the most part by focusing specifically on killing the bigger threats and the tanks went to help stall the respawn point with Alliance A.

We managed to steal an A rank ovoo under the two opposing alliances without dying much by taking advantage of the other two alliances to fight each other initially while whittling both of them down equally. It was amazing. There wasn't much communication to go around and do that other than a couple of callouts for nodes. Even then, there weren't that many because people were paying attention. Everyone just KNEW what to do to a certain extent.

The second game, Oh boy.

I felt like I was back in Crystal tier again. I was immortal flames on White Mage. We were bullying adders ( Adders dropped to 0 points at last place while the other two grand companies were at 100 to 200 points), then maelstorm players. Our 24 man was just better at skirmishing overall. Eventually adders and maelstorm players started to wisen up and coordinated to attacking us one after the other on 2 different angles. And the best part of their coordination? They attacked us in succession and didn't directly try to go kill us. They were trying to stall us out while grabbing the nearby ovoos. Maelstorm got greedy though - they tried to swoop in and take the ovoo like my previous game, but our alliance and the adders were more more skillful and didn't let such a big advantage happen as easily. Maelstorm got punished as a result from both grand companies. Overall, all 3 alliances were pretty balanced in terms of player skill and technique, but adders were slowly pulling ahead due to coordination with maelstorm and had the better strategy.

I was able to prevent a good number of Ninja Seitons and disable the enemy SMN at ideal points, but I wasn't able to do anything conclusive because there was really no super good opening available outside of using my LB to give everyone more time to escape with the stunned enemies and regroup. The most I was able to do was both delay an ovoo from being captured or secure a kill between 1 to 3 players who moved too far away from the rest of their party. Funnily enough though... one time I used LB to delay an ovoo capture, I died to adders immediately focusing me because everyone else in my party pulled back and was focused on the adder's ninja that appeared in our backline at the middle ovoo. It was a great attempt at misdirecting the party because they would've captured the ovoo otherwise. Though they probably didn't expect me to interrupt their capture with my LB even if I died for it. My LB gave maelstorm enough time for mael to reach the ovoo platform and blindside adders, forcing another fight. Eventually, maelstorm stole the ovoo while my grand company decisively abandoned the ovoo for another A rank near maelstorm after seeing the entire maelstorm rush towards mid while they were near the bottom of the bridge. Honestly, it was a better trade in my opinion since adders were gaining a lot more points than the maelstorm at that point.

A lot of S ranks and A ranks spawned at some point. Everyone coordinated to grabbing them. Eventually, adders started beating up maelstorm after the other two tag teamed on our 24 man alliance. At some point, we split our 24 man to have a smaller group contest for the ovoos while the main group were forced to fight the two opposing grand companies in succession, but they even prevent us from joining the fight at some point using stall tactics. Eventually, adders was able to secure a lot more points while maelstorm was throwing themselves at us. We eventually got overwhelmed from sheer numbers and delayed consistently before having to regroup at base. We were able to at least secure the two A ranks at our base even with the crazy onslaught though, in addition to the other A ranks from maelstorm's territory.

At some point, I immediately saw the two S ranks that spawned in adders / maelstorm's territory. Did you know what the adders and maelstorm did when the S ranks spawned? They sent all their tanks at us.

Literally, all their tanks rushed at us while the rest of their team was focused on capturing the points.
Most players immediately stopped to fight them, and I instantly realized this was just a distraction the moment I realized there were only tanks on the enemy team. It's a classic strategy employed in Crystalline Conflict, except done on a much larger scale. It was a really good distraction too, because it worked. All their tanks were set to delay us as long as possible while running towards the opposite direction from the objective in case people in our alliance tried to kill them. We managed to secure 1 S rank against maelstorm using callouts to ignore the tanks from the two opposing grand companies, but it was too late at that point. Adders accumulated too much points against maelstorm and the other ovoos while we were stun-locked in our base earlier on, so they managed to win the game.

The number 1 tactic - to grab aggro with the tanks in the classical PvE scenario - actually managed to work in the PvP setting.

I'm not even mad or salty. There was a lot of different strategy created on the fly in these last couple of fights, and I've seen so much different players coordinate to grab a win. It was quite an amazing experience for all 3 grand companies to play so well. I thoroughly enjoyed these matches since it felt like high-end Crystalline Conflict but scaled to 72 players. Though, after two games, my brain power felt fully spent, haha. There was definitely a level of mental exhaustion that I normally don't feel when playing Frontline back to back on a consistent basis.

When trying to help a friend install Windows 10 onto a disk that had Win 7 on it from over 300 miles away overnight burns your brain out and then you try to raid roulette afterwards first thing in the morning.

To my party, I'm sorry I forgot that I could vercure ->verraise when people failed Ultima mechanics in Orbonne.

I didn't think that after playing this game for almost 6 months I'd run into one these kind of situations....

but...it happened...

two days ago I was putting my Dancer through the shadowbringer dungeons for practice (and it was in the 70-80 range)

The dungeon's malikah's well or something other. It's the dungeon that has the final boss that is that lightwarden that's a coin with wings.

The group is me on my Dancer, a Reaper, Paladin, and a Scholar. We handle the 1st wave of trash mobs alright, nothing's wrong at all until we get to the first boss(it's that critter with a morningstar for a tail.). Paladin dies, the rest of us follow shortly. We respawn and get back to the boss. This time the scholar somehow dies, but twice as early in the boss fight. The boss is still at like..80% hp left...so I redouble my efforts to try and carry us. My dance partner, the reaper tripped on an aoe and dies before I realize he needed the curing waltz. I swap dance partners in a vain effort to keep the paladin alive but shit hits the fan and i can't outsustain the raidwides with Curing Waltz/Second Wind (as much as I tried to convince myself.)

We're running back to the boss for the 3rd time and we're just talking casually about what's going on. Then the healer up and confesses he was watching LOTR extended while this shit was going on.

Me and the Reaper just look at each other...

The Paladin L.O.S.E.S H.I.S S.H.I.T (For obvious reasons.) According to the Paladin's testimony he was never getting any heals throughout these last two attempts we made on the first boss fight.

before our paladin boiled over, I kindly reminded the healer we need his full attention while doing this but the straw that broke all 3 of our backs was when he tried to justify it by saying that one of the scenes was too good to pass up. The healer stopped walking with us back to the boss halfway there down the tunnels...we didn't think he/she was serious about favoring LOTR over the dungeon run that he/she queued up for.

I think our reaper was the party leader so we booted the healer, got another one almost immediately. We were then able to run the rest of the dungeon like clockwork. (like the previous 5 times I've done the dungeon before this debacle took place.)

Contrary to what people believe, this isn't a game you can just play netflix off to the side with.

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Originally Posted by Reclusegamer

I think our reaper was the party leader so we booted the healer, got another one almost immediately. We were then able to run the rest of the dungeon like clockwork. (like the previous 5 times I've done the dungeon before this debacle took place.)

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Just an FYI, it doesn't matter who the party leader is, anyone can initiate the vote kick. Otherwise you could end up with a power tripping leader who kicks for the stupidest things, or does absolutely nothing while others bust their asses to get the job done.

I never noticed it though. Where is it supposed to be at? I pressed "U" and brought up the duty menu but I only had the options for Vote Abandon, leaving and something else. I've only seen the menu once.

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Originally Posted by Reclusegamer

I never noticed it though. Where is it supposed to be at? I pressed "U" and brought up the duty menu but I only had the options for Vote Abandon, leaving and something else. I've only seen the menu once.

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To vote dismiss, you need to open up the party list > right click the member > pick the vote dismiss option.

Regarding your story though, unfortunately the green icon feels like the most desireable role to fill when DF folks just wants to half ass their way through while watching netflix or any other attention drawing apparatus. I'm more surprised that they're openly admitting not being present though.