DC Travel and its decimation of non-Aether NA PF

Honestly they need to make PF and Duty Finder Region wide and not just localized on each DC maybe even make FCs or CWLS region wide.

Same situation on EU. Light has become the raiding DC while Chaos can barely fill a party. I desperately want them to introduce cross DC PF because being cut off from everything and everyone on my home world while alone waiting for parties to fill on a different DC for hours just sucks. I've even considered transferring my character but I've put in too much work in building my FC to just drop it and start over.

I don't think they should do anything to discourage DC hopping. IMO it is good from a raiding/PF standpoint to have a larger pool of players to play with and when patch lulls hit (and they hit pretty hard on Chaos at least) it means PF won't be as dead as it usually gets.

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Originally Posted by littlehobbit13

Honestly same. My first P9S reclear, I scored a coffer. Was super excited, equipped the item and went to grab materia from my retainer for it....no retainer. No materia, no clusters to buy materia, only MB prices (yikes). My only option was to log out, transfer home, log back in; either I stay somewhere without supplies or I have to interrupt my gameplay to travel home for my stuff. A raw deal either way.

If they could find a way to give access to those things it'd be a different story, but essentially right now DC travel has created an inequity of game experience depending on home world. Aether players don't have to give up a single thing in order to raid, while other players who are now forced to travel for PF have to give up a TON of content. We're all paying the same subscription and now getting two very different experiences for it.

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Exactly.

I mean... at the very least I started doing Bicolor FATE grinding waiting for PFs to fill because that's all I can do when on Aether (that or Discord chat). FATE Grind in my boredom! I got 300 vouchers now! Silver linings!

I will go as so far as to say it *might* not be a bad idea to temporarily remove xcenter travel. On the Dynamis data center, it really is THAT bad. It's devastating and game breaking. Getting 10+ minute waits as healer or tank doesn't matter for things like expert roulette. Alliance raids are most often 30+ minutes if they even open at all. Crystaline Conflict doesn't happen.

New players and alts should not have to make party finder groups begging someone to join either synced or unsynced for MSQ leveling dungeons.

Its bad. Really bad.

Removing the feature is probably not feasible. They should have cross data center party finders before enabling the cross center travel. If thats not possible, need to give significant bonuses for doing content on your own data center, and possibly even a negative effect for doing them on data centers that are not your own. Yes, it really is that bad.

While i disagree with the sentiment that DC travel was a mistake i do think a cross DC party finder needs to be one the next big leaps the team takes on and that it needs to happen sooner rather than later. I've seen whole parties made of people from primal on the aether PF simply because people decided that's where you should raid now and that's ridiculous. If party finder was shared between each DC in a region this would not be a problem at all. I really hope we get an announcement of something like this at fanfest instead of something dumb like "undoing" or penalizing even more DC travel.

just kick all crystal players, problem solved

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

That wouldn’t work for endgame content. May be a loot roll penalty that would offer reduced chances would encourage people to do PFs on their own DC without affecting individual performance. It wouldn’t really affect cross DC statics as they can plan ahead as to who gets what.

Still the only real solution now would be to make PF and DF open to an entire region.

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I was actually thinking about this too, as a potential solution, giving higher rolls to people on their home DCs. It doesn't straight up punish you for gameplay or give players a reason to be intolerant of traveling players, but it still incentives individual players to play on their home DC.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

I On the Dynamis data center, it really is THAT bad. It's devastating and game breaking. Getting 10+ minute waits as healer or tank doesn't matter for things like expert roulette. Alliance raids are most often 30+ minutes if they even open at all. Crystaline Conflict doesn't happen.

New players and alts should not have to make party finder groups begging someone to join either synced or unsynced for MSQ leveling dungeons.

Its bad. Really bad.

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Co-signed. My alt is on Seraph. Tank main, I waited 90 minutes to get the Innocence trial done through queue. (I didn't mean to wait that long, I just genuinely forgot I was queued up at some point.) It really is that bad on Dynamis. Our FC activity basically dissolved away because everyone was constantly off-world trying to get content done, so there goes the social aspect of an MMO as well. They really shouldn't have let loose with DC travel before giving Dynamis worlds a chance to set up and find some stability.

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Originally Posted by littlehobbit13

Co-signed. My alt is on Seraph. Tank main, I waited 90 minutes to get the Innocence trial done through queue. (I didn't mean to wait that long, I just genuinely forgot I was queued up at some point.) It really is that bad on Dynamis. Our FC activity basically dissolved away because everyone was constantly off-world trying to get content done, so there goes the social aspect of an MMO as well. They really shouldn't have let loose with DC travel before giving Dynamis worlds a chance to set up and find some stability.

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Give PF on Dynamis a try. It might surprise you.

I've been taking members of my Marilith FC through the MSQ trials using PF. So far the longest we've had to wait to fill a party is 10 minutes. I add "First time bonus - needed for MSQ" in the description. There are players who want to help and PF makes it easier to connect with those players rather than grabbing pot luck from Duty Finder matchmaking.

Primal used to have decent PF, including final turn, now a ghost town. Normally I raid on static but like to raid PF sometime off schedule. Can't anymore

Regional data center travel should be nice thing and party finder regional data centers is good too. But again we are ff14 Community. People use data center travel for there venue jobs and there would be uproar if it was shut down. But it needs to be expended. Also better adjusted :D

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

I will go as so far as to say it *might* not be a bad idea to temporarily remove xcenter travel. On the Dynamis data center, it really is THAT bad. It's devastating and game breaking. Getting 10+ minute waits as healer or tank doesn't matter for things like expert roulette. Alliance raids are most often 30+ minutes if they even open at all. Crystaline Conflict doesn't happen.

New players and alts should not have to make party finder groups begging someone to join either synced or unsynced for MSQ leveling dungeons.

Its bad. Really bad.

Removing the feature is probably not feasible. They should have cross data center party finders before enabling the cross center travel. If thats not possible, need to give significant bonuses for doing content on your own data center, and possibly even a negative effect for doing them on data centers that are not your own. Yes, it really is that bad.

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Do this and a good chunk of players will just transfer off of Dynamis, myself included.
A lot only came to dynamis because dc travel exists.

Wait, this is a thing?

Maybe it's the times of day that I'm on and stuff, but I tend to be able to find stuff in PF pretty frequently on Primal. I haven't looked much since 6.4 other than for Ex6, but I hadn't noticed a lot of issues... Is this a new thing, or a time of day thing, or an overblown/hyperbole thing?

A few minutes ago I checked PF and saw that there were eight total listings on the High-end Duty tab. Out of curiosity I hopped over to Aether to see how many listings they had.

There were over 150.

Before DC travel Primal had a very healthy raiding community. During primetime there were tons of groups for savage raids, trials, ultimates, etc. It's around 8PM PST right now and PF is almost completely dead on this DC.

SE really needs to do something about this.

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Originally Posted by Nav_Fae

Hot take: DC travel was a mistake. But we're here now so I wouldn't revert it back.

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Yeah playing with your friends is a horrible mistake you're right.

Like many say, without cross DC travel, Dynamis will die. It seems destined that Dynamis will remain dead anyhow, as the population shows very little, to no increase over the past few months, and anyone who denies this is smoking the really strong copium. Any bump from 7.0 will be temporary, and I am doubtful that it will be the salvation a lot of players are hoping for.

My first solution is for Dynamis to be sundered. Divide its worlds and distribute them to the other DC's. Add 2 more worlds so that is even between the 3 DC's, and this will help servers cope with 7.0 population booms. Dynamis was created in large part to open housing up for people who wanted it, and a lot of wards remain totally vacant. It seems a perfect solution to just merge Dynamis into the rest of the DC's.

The second solution is to block people from creating DF's on DC's they're not from. This serves two purposes. One, annoying venue ad spam for DC's they're not from cease (Mostly.) Secondly forces people to go and form their raids on their own DC. A potential problem may be that people from other DC's will still be able to join party finder groups on other DC's.

An optional third solution is to prevent people from doing Savage on anything but their own home DC. I have a feeling that will be deeply unpopular, and just make people transfer to the worlds with all of the raiding.

The current state of PF on Primal has been frustrating to me, I'm a little glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way. In the past there was never an issue with filling or finding a group, but as of late there are so few parties. I still try to use Primal PF as much as possible, but it is in a real sad state and it's disappointing to see. I like to be able to talk to my FC, use my retainers, etc and not feel trapped on a different data center just to fill a group.

Ideally it would be nice to see region wide PF (and duty finder), that way everyone has the same access without extra steps.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

Like many say, without cross DC travel, Dynamis will die. It seems destined that Dynamis will remain dead anyhow, as the population shows very little, to no increase over the past few months

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If anything I think DC travel is what's keeping it from growing. Why play on your own DC when you can just piss off to a highly populated one? If enough people do that then people aren't interacting and making friends on the server, the server in turn doesn't develop any sort of community, people therefore have no reason to stick around so even more hop to other DCs to play, and so on. It's a vicious cycle.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Yeah playing with your friends is a horrible mistake you're right.

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These people still cling to the cope that server communities are still a thing.

3rd party apps like discord have killed that long before cross realm came into the game

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

These people still cling to the cope that server communities are still a thing.

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Server communities are alive and well for those who aren't socially inept cave trolls.