Nightclub shouts

First world problems at its best

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Originally Posted by Bukachu

First world problems at its best

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People on a game forum posting a complaint about something in-game? :p

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

People on a game forum posting a complaint about something in-game? :p

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And said people have been offered a solution but said people go "welllll I could doooo thatttt butttt I don't want to lol"

What about those people?

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

People on a game forum posting a complaint about something in-game? :p

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there're normal complaints and bozo complaints

#notinMYmmo

but jokes asside yes the 'nightclub' scene as a whole is irritating and the spam advertisement make it all the more so. shout chat is great for 'can anyone show me where x is' or 'can anyone help with x duty' so as a mentor itd be dumb to mute it

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

You shouldn't if you want to play an MMO and interact with other people. There's games where chat doesn't exist and they're called single player games. Maybe play those. MMO's really shouldn't cater to an anti-social audience that's bothered by nightclub shouts they can easily ignore.

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These events are stupid though. ooo look at my toon dance. Let me try and flirt with this person etc etc. Just go to a real nightclub at least you actually get real food and drinks and maybe a dance or 2 for real.

RPing is fine so as long as they abide by the rules.
Shouting for a group has always been a thing in XI and XIV , it's just no longer specific to battle.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

These events are stupid though. ooo look at my toon dance. Let me try and flirt with this person etc etc. Just go to a real nightclub at least you actually get real food and drinks and maybe a dance or 2 for real.

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You're arguing taste now. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing, but don't try to micromanage other people if you're not paying their sub fee.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

To be honest seeing a club related shout is a very rare event. So its maybe server related?

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You aren't around much - this is a nightly thing. Hardcore spam on the weekends.

Honestly, you can either report them for spamming the chat, or just stay out of the major cities, as that's where it's most often the issue with this.

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

You're arguing taste now. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing, but don't try to micromanage other people if you're not paying their sub fee.

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Just speaking bluntly these nightclub events suck. Then they promote non stop when they are going to open with these washed up DJ's that can't get a real gig so they play DJ in a game. The whole nightclub scene is cringe worthy

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Just speaking bluntly these nightclub events suck. Then they promote non stop when they are going to open with these washed up DJ's that can't get a real gig so they play DJ in a game. The whole nightclub scene is cringe worthy

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...did you even read and comprehend what I said??

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

...did you even read and comprehend what I said??

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Oh and maybe if these RP'ers took some of that skill and used to make PF better then that would be better then make up stories about a fake character

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

And said people have been offered a solution but said people go "welllll I could doooo thatttt butttt I don't want to lol"

What about those people?

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The issue with that mindset is, those don’t want to see them shouldn’t have to turn on filters.

Make multiple chat tabs like other games in the genre. Win-win for both sides.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Oh and maybe if these RP'ers took some of that skill and used to make PF better then that would be better then make up stories about a fake character

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...sooo you didn't read. Gotcha! :D

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

The issue with that mindset is, those don’t want to see them shouldn’t have to turn on filters.

Make multiple chat tabs like other games in the genre. Win-win for both sides.

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The issue with that mindset is, where does it end? Is this game going to be one filter after another filter after another? Filters upon filters because people can't ignore stuff that doesn't apply to them is rather silly. Ooo I know! Let's change this game to Filter Fantasy XIV: Because omg I don't like how you play the game so I'm going to filter you out - UwU edition

Hey if you're that anti-social then maybe this game isn't for you (not you, just in general), like wow, this is such a first world baby ish complaint that it's bonkers to me that people get triggered by a shout chat promoting their events.

Should we maybe make a filter for people with ugly glams? Savage clears? Where does it end?? Why do people NOT like other people expressing themselves in this game??

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

Hey if you're that anti-social then maybe this game isn't for you (not you, just in general), like wow, this is such a first world baby ish complaint that it's bonkers to me that people get triggered by a shout chat promoting their events.

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you do know that this game stopped being about social interactions once we moved to 2.0. and Yoshida started to catering to players that just want to buy boosts and play through msq then be done with it.

why do you think I no longer use my legacy account?
heck, why do you think most legacy players haven't returned to ffxiv?
the game simply is not about that old school style of mmo anymore.
instead it's simply just a Single Player RPG with hubs that you see other players in.

FFXIV is not a MMO and it hasn't been for sometime now.

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Originally Posted by znushu

you do know that this game stopped being about social interactions once we moved to 2.0. and Yoshida started to catering to players that just want to buy boosts and play through msq then be done with it.

why do you think I no longer use my legacy account?
heck, why do you think most legacy players haven't returned to ffxiv?
the game simply is not about that old school style of mmo anymore.
instead it's simply just a Single Player RPG with hubs that you see other players in.

FFXIV is not a MMO and it hasn't been for sometime now.

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Idrgaf about legacy players so I'm not really sure why you brought that up..

I have social interactions every time I play this game and I'm sorry that you don't...

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Just speaking bluntly these nightclub events suck. Then they promote non stop when they are going to open with these washed up DJ's that can't get a real gig so they play DJ in a game. The whole nightclub scene is cringe worthy

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Says the forum poster.

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

The issue with that mindset is, where does it end? Is this game going to be one filter after another filter after another? Filters upon filters because people can't ignore stuff that doesn't apply to them is rather silly. Ooo I know! Let's change this game to Filter Fantasy XIV: Because omg I don't like how you play the game so I'm going to filter you out - UwU edition

Hey if you're that anti-social then maybe this game isn't for you (not you, just in general), like wow, this is such a first world baby ish complaint that it's bonkers to me that people get triggered by a shout chat promoting their events.

Should we maybe make a filter for people with ugly glams? Savage clears? Where does it end?? Why do people NOT like other people expressing themselves in this game??

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I've been playing this game since 1.0 beta and played 11 for nearly a decade before then. I get my social interactions just fine, I'm just fed up with the spammy shouts, and having an option to opt-out wouldn't hurt anyone. Not sure why you disregard that. Again, we should not -have to- disable functions cause we don't want to see spam. The same goes for the annoying FC shouts. It should have its own chat tab. It would be a QOL if anything.

But you're being ridiculous now and taking this to the extreme. I see what level we're on here. I'm done talking to you.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I've been playing this game since 1.0 beta and played 11 for nearly a decade before then. I get my social interactions just fine, I'm just fed up with the spammy shouts, and having an option to opt-out wouldn't hurt anyone. Not sure why you disregard that. Again, we should not -have to- disable functions cause we don't want to see spam. The same goes for the annoying FC shouts. It should have its own chat tab. It would be a QOL if anything.

But you're being ridiculous now and taking this to the extreme. I see what level we're on here. I'm done talking to you.

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I think this entire thread is ridiculous so I'm just trying to mingle and fit in with you all. Congregation, what should we complain about next? How players should be wearing white in their glams until labor day and not after? Or or, maybe we should be able to filter those that DO wear white after labor day out? Am I doing it right?

Hey, that's what this thread looks like to me, so I'm just trying go along with it. What's the problem?

There's a lot of nightclub spam in the major cities, for sure. While it may be annoying, I don't see what can really be done about it, since these are player organized events in a game that encourages RP. It is best to just shrug it off and move on with your day. Life's too short to be stressed over something as small as this. I'm never going to one of these venues anyway, and I truly don't care what other people are doing with their time.

In Balmung we just push it out of the chat with our degeneracy. As soon as they post their advertisement it's already out of view because we got better things to do. Steps of Nald IS our nightclub spot.

Yes, the chat on Balmung is ... special. xD


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

Goodness you people complain about everything. How about we just take chat away entirely? Just play in effing silence.

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Playing with all the people means all the things will be complained about.

See also: real life. You know when people say, "everyone is (too sensitive/angry/this/that/the other thing) these days" during a discussion? Yeah, that's because "everyone" is involved in discussions since about 1996, but especially since social media blew up around 2010 or so.

We're no longer socializing with our four closest friends (whom we picked because their demeanor fit in with what we wanted as a friend), twenty dudes in an IRC channel, or a few thousand people reading alt.rec.video-games. There are millions of people playing this game, and social media has taught humans to bypass face-to-face problem resolution and instead to 'go online and complain' when they are dissatisfied or disappointed. The dissatisfied human complains with vitriol and sociopathy because "they're only complaining to a screen."

We are screwed, socially, until people treat internet communication as actual communication with other humans - and behave appropriately - but, I digress.

Given that millions of people have a million different opinions of how some form of subjective entertainment (in this case, FFXIV) should function - and most think they're correct and aren't open to changing their opinion - you're virtually guaranteed of seeing a complaint no matter where you turn your head these days. People have been conditioned for the past 20 years to complain into the ether so that they, themselves don't need to feel any internal pain.

Humanity's motto in 2022 and going forward is "I hurt, therefore I share the pain." Few know how to internalize minor disappointment and momentary pain. It's a skill we've virtually lost as a people. At the slightest sign of dissatisfaction, online we go to complain.

I get the frustration; I'm embarrassed by how people behave and the things over which they lose their minds. But I don't get the surprise or the confusion over why people complain. Or why they're offended, or why they have XYZ opinion. Given the way we now raise our children, a million people can and will complain about a million different things. Eight billion people can and will complain about eight billion different things. Some people are concerned on a day-to-day basis with things like health, finances, their job, their family, etc., whereas other people couldn't care less about those things and are instead concerned about scrolling text in a video game.

That's just life in this day and age. A generation of bad parenting when it comes to teaching young humans to deal with objectively minor pain and problems, coupled with global connectivity. I mean, 'Global Connectivity / Respect and Problem Resolution' is a class we should be placing our children in when they're old enough to communicate via computer.

literally don't care because it takes less than a quarter of a braincell worth of power to read past the message if i'm not interested.

They end up on my ignore list. An occasional 2 line message is not bad but it has gotten worse since the last patch and many post ridiculously lengthy messages, sometimes in 2 consecutive parts, and occupy the whole chat window. It is disrespectful.

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Originally Posted by Alaray

literally don't care because it takes less than a quarter of a braincell worth of power to read past the message if i'm not interested.

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I'm having a real hard time telling FC ads and venue/nightclub messages apart because I dont even read them.

As long as they dont have annoying sound effects in their macros I don't care. Just filter it out if it bothers you and create your own custom chat channel so you don't need to read it.

I find them a bit annoying but I have a seperate chat window that I can switch to if it becomes too much - it has yell and shout turned off for that chat window. I also have assigned sounds to linkshells I am in, fc chat and tells so I can look at my 'quieter' chat window if I missed it in the general one. We have many solutions we can use.

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Originally Posted by Cherlindrea

Hi,

I allready has post a thread on the German Forum about that topic. But I want to see how is the opinion of the english speaking community.

As soon as you visit one of the main cities you got a constant spam of nightclubs and parties. And not only for the own datacenter, they shout also for other too. You blacklist one, three more shout nearly instant for the next party/club etc. Even RMTseller or FC shouter aren't that worse than Party/Club shouter at the moment.

What do you think and feel about it? Should SE do something about it?

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I just turn shout chat off in the General chat configs.
Some will spread to other chats, but the majority I can avoid doing that.

About what do to, I think there is no real problem if people enjoy clubs and RP stuff. We live in a world full of different people. So, to learn the best way to cohexist without annoing or being annoyed by differences is an important lesson for everyone. ;)

The only thing I really complain is when a FC is composed mostly by ERPers. The few experiences I had in my past lead me to accept the existence, but always far away from me.
The most important thing to do inside game is to have fun. And people vary enormously in doing that. SE will always think in inviting more and more people to their products. So, no reason to do anything (since it's not violating ToS).

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Originally Posted by Archaell

The main issue is the lack of chat channels. Yell and shout should be more about ongoing events in the zone. Venues and FC recruitments would be better each having own channel.

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I'd agree...but as someone who played WoW a lot and they have channels for just such a thing...they aren't used. People will still use shout for FC recruitments just as much as people used the trade channel to do guild recruitments.

Those nightclub shouts are mostly disguised ERP advertisements. Should probably get the kibosh put on them.

I see these frequently, but never attended one. I find the houses in this game to be claustrophobic. Plus, the insistence of the posters suggests there's RMT involved somehow.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'd agree...but as someone who played WoW a lot and they have channels for just such a thing...they aren't used. People will still use shout for FC recruitments just as much as people used the trade channel to do guild recruitments.

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In WoW, all this junk ends up in the trade channel, which I finally disabled, since there was rarely any trade traffic in it.

One nice thing they have is if you report someone for a RMT post, they disappear from the channel for the rest of your login session. I've killed off as many as 30 of them in one sitting before I finally turned off trade channel.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

I see these frequently, but never attended one. I find the houses in this game to be claustrophobic. Plus, the insistence of the posters suggests there's RMT involved somehow.

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There's no RMT involved in the nightclub scene to my knowledge, just overly priced gil drinks and catgirls.

You mean i could make money in that scene?
*dusting off my skimpy dancing outfits*

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

You mean i could make money in that scene?
*dusting off my skimpy dancing outfits*

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100k If you do anything but Bee's Knees.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Thats also against the Tos and should get you permabanned ^^

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Lmao, and? Who's gonna know you're using it. Thinking someone should be permabanned for it, yikes, as someone else said very vindictive especially when it doesn't effect you in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Iustitia-sama

Lmao, and? Who's gonna know you're using it. Thinking someone should be permabanned for it, yikes, as someone else said very vindictive especially when it doesn't effect you in the slightest.

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Don't think they enforce it but suggesting it on the OF might not be the brightest idea but again, I doubt they enforce it or read the forum.