Fishing bots on the moon

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

I get the shots at me but taking shots at my parents because I disagree with ya seems kinda petty. All over simple disagreements.

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You basically saying that all rules are pointless and we should just give in to complete anarchy isn't a "simple disagreement". It's completely antithetical to existing in a civilized society. If you can't understand why cheating is not a justifiable position than you are truly a lost individual. I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your future.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

You basically say that all rules are pointless and we should just give in to complete anarchy isn't a "simple disagreement". It's completely antithetical to existing in a civilized society. If you can't understand why cheating is not a justifiable position than you are truly a lost individual. I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your future.

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No what I said expecting people to follow the rules just because when the benefits of not cheating do not outweigh the benefits and risks of cheating why not cheat? Because of right and wrong?

I fall in the camp that people do not follow the rules out of a desire to follow the rules more so to a desire of not wanting to face the consequences. Which is why enforcement is important without enforcement is a rule even a rule? Sure it is a rule but I am sure you get what I mean.

Rules without enforcement or light enforcement are pointless. Like I said before say if I broke a rule but made 1 million and if caught I only have to pay a small fine why not break the rule for the million especially if the chances of getting caught a slim.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

No what I said expecting people to follow the rules just because when the benefits of not cheating do not outweigh the benefits and risks of cheating why not cheat? Because of right and wrong?

I fall in the camp that people do not follow the rules out of a desire to follow the rules more so to a desire of not wanting to face the consequences. Which is why enforcement is important without enforcement is a rule even a rule? Sure it is a rule but I am sure you get what I mean.

Rules without enforcement or light enforcement are pointless. Like I said before say if I broke a rule but made 1 million and if caught I only have to pay a small fine why not break the rule for the million especially if the chances of getting caught a slim.

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It's morally reprehensible. People should do the right thing because it's the right thing to do, not because of the potential punishment if they don't.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

It's morally reprehensible. People should do the right thing because it's the right thing to do, not because of the punishment if they don't.

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It is morally reprehensible by your code of ethics sure but maybe not another's. That is why I say enforcement is important it gives people who do not care about the rules but care about the consequences a reason to follow.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

It is morally reprehensible by your code of ethics sure but maybe not another's. That is why I say enforcement is important it gives people who do not care about the rules but care about the consequences a reason to follow.

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At least I have a code of ethics.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

At least I have a code of ethics.

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Pretty much everyone does just so happens sometimes they do not line up. Idk I do not think objective moral truths exist. I do feel we are consequence driven creatures.

Say hypothetically one could get away with breaking a rule without getting caught and said rule break greatly improved their enjoyment and quality of life while negatively impacting others. Do really think arules or morals would prevent people from doing it?

I do not think so.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Pretty much everyone does just so happens sometimes they do not line up. Idk I do not think objective moral truths exist. I do feel we are consequence driven creatures.

Say hypothetically one could get away with breaking a rule without getting caught and said rule break greatly improved their enjoyment and quality of life while negatively impacting others. Do really think a code of ethics would prevent people from doing it?

I do not think so.

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We could not be at more opposite ends of the spectrum. Without objective morality, it would be hell on earth because human nature inherently drives us to to some pretty terrible things.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

We could not be at more opposite ends of the spectrum. Without objective morality, it would be hell on earth because human nature inherently drives us to to some pretty terrible things.

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If it was objective wouldn't human nature not matter? Doesn't human nature show to some degree that morals are subjective and while within a social construct the notion of do not do x because it is wrong is enough for some, they need or you will face y consequence.

For some rules themselves are enough, I know many people that follow no smoking signs or no guns past certain area as examples, but I also know of many that ignore the no smoking signs due to lack of enforcement, and still conceal carry in places with signs that state the otherwise. Hell I know of people that drive without insurance. It is all about risk tolerance, and often consequences or likelihood of getting caught play into that risk tolerance equation.

Overall I guess you have more faith in humanity, personal I think if punishment was not a thing many people would ignore most if not all laws that have no personal impact on their own life.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

If it was objective wouldn't human nature not matter? Doesn't human nature show to some degree that morals are subjective and while within a social construct the notion of do not do x because it is wrong is enough for some, they need or you will face y consequence.

For some rules themselves are enough, I know many people that follow no smoking signs or no guns past certain area as examples, but I also know of many that ignore the no smoking signs due to lack of enforcement, and still conceal carry in places with signs that state the otherwise. Hell I know of people that drive without insurance. It is all about risk tolerance, and often consequences or likelihood of getting caught play into that risk tolerance equation.

Overall I guess you have more faith in humanity, personal I think if punishment was not a thing many people would ignore most if not all laws that have no personal impact on their own life.

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It wouldn't be easy to give that proper response without delving into a topic I'd rather not broach on a public forum. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors :)

Question is, are they actually bots?

EDIT: nevermind, I'm just ignorant to the existence of different bot programs- which i by-chance stubbled upon a couple minutes ago out of curiosity.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Question is, are they actually bots?

EDIT: nevermind, I'm just ignorant to the existence of different bot programs- which i by-chance stubbled upon a couple minutes ago out of curiosity.

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This particular group definitely is. It was like watching a manufacturing plant chug away.

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Originally Posted by Limecat

More than anything, I'm curious why they'd bother. It can't be a gil-making scheme, or there'd be hundreds of RMT bots doing it. There's only so many hi-cordials you need to cart around, and you get more than enough white scrips for those from the custom deliveries each week. Tier 9 materia are dirt-cheap, assuming you haven't stockpiled several hundred of them already. Am I missing something obvious here? And why the wandering? What possible purpose does that serve? They're not hiding from or fooling anyone with that.

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There is a fish you turn in for white scripts. They buy items using the scripts to sell on the MB then sell the gil from that via RMT.