<MATERIA> First-Come First-Served AND Lottery Plots

I hope that if a SE representative sees this thread they make a note of the fact that the people against Materia data centre having FCFS aren't even ON Materia worlds, and summarily discount them due to their complete lack of relevance to the situation.

You know what they say about opinions and a specific part of the human anatomy, right? Just because you have one, doesn't mean you should wave it around in places where you have no vested interest. Especially when you have clearly got little to no understanding of the specifics of the geographical area the data centre services.

There is absolutely no accessibility reason to make all the wards in Materia lottery, there is a limited variance in the time zones across the area, from East to the West the variance is four hours, North to South is more like two hours at most - the servers will be going up in prime time so nobody is missing out because of time zones. If you want housing you have enough time to sort your schedule to be there when the servers open.

The chances of there being a log in queue at all is limited to Ravana and MAYBE Sophia. So that's not an issue.

And yes, most of us will not really have to worry about getting the house we want because of the low population - with FCFS that is. As it stands if more than one of us lots on the same plot then we have to wait for the lottery to go off, then wait for the next lottery to enter then rinse and repeat. All while wards are standing empty.

I don't understand the reasoning of NA people coming in using arguments based on their own data centre circumstances that bear no resemblance to the reality of the new Materia data centre on the other side of the world. Especially when they aren't even on the data centre in question.

If people who actually play with their mains on Materia want FCFS, then I think that counts for more than the opinions of people who aren't even on the data centre in the first place. 50/50 lottery and FCFS should be the very least they do with the old wards.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Onions are just a small part of this that I use as the example, and you should realise it.

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I'm sorry but what other items that can only be obtained through housing have such a significant impact on game play that having access a week sooner because SE went FCFS instead of Lottery will make a substantial difference?

Workshop RNG is so crazy at times that starting a workshop one week sooner is not going to make a difference. Any early advantage will get canceled out when RNG goes sour later.

Furniture is a non-issue because it can be produced on demand. There's no need to stockpile it or even the materials to make it (outside of what comes off timed nodes and not many of those are needed) in advance.

No one has to leave their friends behind because we're free to create characters on every data center. I might not be able to do every single bit of content with my friends on other data centers but I'm still able to visit and do at least some content.

Again if the concern is that SE is waiting too long to even open housing, I'm with you 100%. It's needed sooner. Six weeks after a world is opened is more than long enough for players and FCs to get established to a minimum level needed to obtain housing.

That's not what is in question. The issue is FCFS versus lottery. You are not going to suffer just because you have to wait a few extra days for a lottery to happen.

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Originally Posted by Damptoe

I'm not saying their inventories are filled up with housing items right now. I'm saying they're not going to start spending on housing items until they have a house to dump them in because of inventory constraints. Lotteries will just delay that while people are locked up in the process to get a house and failing, when they could have just bought another one already with FCFS.

NA and EU can keep their lotteries. We promise we won't make you adopt our upside down ways.

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And the lottery probably is not going to delay anything more than a week longer while in the meantime giving all players a fair chance to get a plot they want instead of the majority of premium plots going to RMT with the rest going to those who have the real life privilege of being able to log in when the servers come online.

But fine, let RMT have immediate and near total control over the best housing in your data center. Not my problem, right?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Again if the concern is that SE is waiting too long to even open housing, I'm with you 100%. It's needed sooner. Six weeks after a world is opened is more than long enough for players and FCs to get established to a minimum level needed to obtain housing.

That's not what is in question. The issue is FCFS versus lottery. You are not going to suffer just because you have to wait a few extra days for a lottery to happen

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I still don't get why you, as a player who is not on Materia, are so intent on imposing your will on people half a world away, in a data-centre that has zero bearing on your own now or in the future.

But still, I will answer this; Don't you see that these points are mutually exclusive?

It seems to be a popular opinion on Materia that us Materia players want old city housing now so we can put down proper roots and grow our community and cohesion, to keep our players playing on our data centre and not melting back to their NA and JP homes.

But there is no lottery until likely mid to late April. It's not in the code. It's likely not even in QA testing yet. It's effectively a moot argument for those calling for housing now.

Come 6.1, when Emperyum is released world wide, Emperyum should be the same method and mix in all data centres. That and demolished/abandoned properties.

No different to how you have it on Coeurl.

I agree with Shibi on this. And yes, we knew that housing would be delayed when we moved- but since the data centre was supposed to launch with 6.1 I guess we all assumed 6.1 was going to be soon after they released the worlds early - not that we would be waiting FOUR MONTHs for housing.

Four months with no FC workshops, no market for furnishings, people with retainers full of the furnishings they took from the houses they left, for four months. At least release some of the old wards now for players that gave up housing in good faith to populate the empty worlds on a new data centre.

And before anyone comes in crying fair to the new players- yes, I do believe players who relinquished plots on their old worlds are owed a shot at housing over and above the new player. We gave up something in good faith, and are being rewarded with a longer than expected stretch of homlessness and on top of that - pure random chance luck of the draw when the housing actually drops.

What a truly awful way to say thank you to veteran players who supported the initiative to create a new OCE data centre and gave up good queues, flourishing markets and established housing in doing so. I have newbies in my FC whose chocobos are going untrained, we should be levelling airships NOW not waiting for months to hope for a random chance at getting an FC house.

It;s been a month since launch, the established player base who transferred should, in all fairness have a chance to restore the personal plots they gave up now, and FCs with the means ( and show me a legit FC without 3 mil by now ) should be able to get their houses NOW. Give us a couple of each old ward early FCFS and hold the rest for lottery if you want, but dear gods let those of us who left behind worlds get on with building the new ones NOW.

I can only reiterate:

On the established DCs the implementation of lottery is an improvement - it makes it not about who can sacrifice their life or bot the best to get the house.

On OCE the situation is different.
Even as a person who absolutely supports lottery, I would be much happier to see Materia be 100% FCFS from 6.1 to 6.2.
Then from 6.2 SE can apply housing to it in alignment with the apparent need of the worlds/server - be that keeping FCFS or adopting a mix of lottery and FCFS.

The strength of lottery is when the world has an extreme housing shortage, which just isn't the likely case in Materia.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Except you're not truly a sprout. You're an experienced player who knows how to make gil. That gives you a significant advantage, even on a new character, compared those who are truly new to the game.

I also imagine most of the delay is with FCs in mind. They want all the new FCs to have a chance to rank up and earn gil for their house purchase instead of the transferring players with hundreds of mlllions of gil getting a head start by buying up multiple plots with shell FCs.


If the population numbers quoted earlier are accurate

then it is already a problem. There will only be 7,200 houses per world to split between both FCs and individual players, and the lowest population world is already well past that number.


Don't confuse what you want with being a need. Housing is completely optional in this game - you do not need it.

I do sympathize. I'm considering going to the new NA data center when it opens later this year so I'd be in the same position you're currently in - staring at a bunch of empty house plots when I'm itching to decorate and probably trying to get a workshop up and running for a new FC.

But I also support SE's decision to delay so the playing field is leveled while new player and transferred players both get established on the new worlds.

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I completely agree. I would love for the housing to be open, as you all would, but I also know how people like to take advantage of the markets, buy up all the housing, and sell them for way more than they're worth. Most other DC's housing are filled with those who have multiple plots even for themselves as well as alternate accounts.

As much as I would love to just go in and pick something now, I will happily wait to ensure complete fairness for all. :o

+1 for non Ishgard FCFS on Materia (even if only half the wards)

The plot hoarding on other data centres is the result of grandfathering in plots purchased under old rules that allowed all alts on the same account to own a plot. The FC hoarding similarly happened under rules that allowed accounts to own more than one FC house. Those rules have been changed and it is no longer possible to hoard entire wards. As for multiple account holders owning plots- that won't be changing since each extra account counts as a completely different player.

The fact remains that SE encouraged veteran players who already held plots to move to the new data centre, while stating that Ishgard and only Ishgard would be having the lottery system implemented. Notice that none of us are asking for that to be changed, because we signed on for that.

What we did NOT sign on for was a full implementation of lottery across the old wards. You seem to be a new player so don't understand the cost of uprooting an endgame character and moving to a new data centre. Queues for endgame content are awful, the market is horrible, the experience is not really great. I realised that going in and went anyway in order to support SE in their efforts to support the OCE area, however I did so under the belief that when housing was released, the old wards would be FCFS as they have ALWAYS been when new worlds are launched.

I don't think that I am the only veteran player who is looking at their sacrifice to support the devs in a new light now, I can't say that I would have moved if they had made it clear that this horrible lottery system would be in play across all wards, it is disingenuous of them to move the goal posts in this way.

And yes, people who left houses behind to populate the new data centre with experienced players to support the huge number of sprouts deserve to have a FCFS chance at getting their old homes back. If we all left the servers in protest the data centre would surely feel our loss.

SE needs to stop ignoring the loyalty of long term players in favour of appeasing newcomers, we've already lost veteran rewards, have had the crafting system gutted and seen levelling bonuses out of control in favour of appeasing the new players, please don't betray the good faith we showed in moving to a new data centre by forcing the lottery system on old areas in new worlds like this.

It's not even about the inability to get a medium/large plot, with how awful the markets are I am sure we'll have enough, but my god this is going to make for an awfully slow and tedious process with all the waiting between draws if someone (and there will always be someone) decides to lot on a plot with an entry even though there is the same plot un-lotted in four other wards. The lottery on demolished houses in full worlds makes some sense (it's still an awful idea though imo) but 24wards across 5 areas on a new world being lottery is utterly ridiculous.

Let sanity prevail please.

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Originally Posted by LunaFancy

What we did NOT sign on for was a full implementation of lottery across the old wards. You seem to be a new player so don't understand the cost of uprooting an endgame character and moving to a new data centre. Queues for endgame content are awful, the market is horrible, the experience is not really great. I realised that going in and went anyway in order to support SE in their efforts to support the OCE area, however I did so under the belief that when housing was released, the old wards would be FCFS as they have ALWAYS been when new worlds are launched.

I don't think that I am the only veteran player who is looking at their sacrifice to support the devs in a new light now, I can't say that I would have moved if they had made it clear that this horrible lottery system would be in play across all wards, it is disingenuous of them to move the goal posts in this way.

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This is a legendary post, and articulates all my feeling (and I'm sure many others) share. Completely 100% agree! SE has basically backtracked from what they were saying, and I regret letting go of my old house already if they dont bring FCFS.

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Originally Posted by LunaFancy

The FC hoarding similarly happened under rules that allowed accounts to own more than one FC house. Those rules have been changed and it is no longer possible to hoard entire wards.

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Mmhh you know that this is still possible? The Housing "TOS" only prevents from buying more than one plot as FC if you are holding already one. But its not forbidden to get more plots via FC Master "Trade". Funny thing is the "only one FC plot buy rule per account" isnt even available all the time. You could buy on Spriggan and Twintania litterally multiple FC-Plots even if the FAQ said it shouldnt be possible. It seems that SE is running a population breakeven in the background when this additional rule will be applied or not technically.

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Originally Posted by Yodada

Mmhh you know that this is still possible? The Housing "TOS" only prevents from buying more than one plot as FC if you are holding already one. But its not forbidden to get more plots via FC Master "Trade". Funny thing is the "only one FC plot buy rule per account" isnt even available all the time. You could buy on Spriggan and Twintania litterally multiple FC-Plots even if the FAQ said it shouldnt be possible. It seems that SE is running a population breakeven in the background when this additional rule will be applied or not technically.

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Mmmmh did you know that they are bringing in new rules for FC master handover as of 6.1 to require a new member to be in the FC for an as yet unspecified period of time before they can handover the FC?

And did you understand that the only reason there has been a grey market for FC housing is because all the houses on populated worlds were sold out and the only path to house ownership was to purchase an FC with housing? Not really going to be the issue on Materia which is 85% sprouts at the moment and will have five empty wards on each world open up in one hit.In the case of Spriggan and Twintania they shared a data centre with populated worlds- Materia has only new worlds, and limited markets as a result. Nobody is looking at the data centre will gil symbols in their eyes thinking about how much money the will make from their FC consortuim. Because there is no money to be made in that way on an isolated data centre of new worlds.

Stop acting as if all the problems on existing fully populated worlds or worlds in data centres with populated worlds have any relevance on a data centre with 100% new worlds with low population of mostly sprouts.

I guarantee all the people (most of whom don't even seem to be on OCE data centre btw) who are pro lottery will be changing their minds when they can lott on ONE house and have to wait for the next lottery period when they miss out because someone doubled lotted on the same plot while there are empty plots all over- that you can't lott on because YOU CANNOT WITHDRAW AN ENTRY AFTER YOU MAKE IT.

Think about that, for a second. You are the only entry, then six people who haven't read the rules dump their lotts on top of you- but you can't move your entry to one of the six empty plots on other wards. And you have to wait out the lottery draw, knowing that if it were FCFS you could have just hopped wards until you got the plot you were after. Which, considering how low the population is, would have been a given.

FCFS wards would be no issue at all on Materia, I know this because I have got houses via FCFS on much higher population servers than any of Materias in the past.

I'm fine with 50/50 FCFS and lottery, then all the lottery people can have fun for weeks with their RNG choice while the rest of us just get on with housing life after a fifteen minute flurry of activity.

I'd just like to add my voice to the rest of the supporters here that FCFS for at least some (half?) of the wards seems like a better idea than all-lottery. Please consider it.

I am also adding my support for 50/50 FCFS and Lottery for all of the wards. I moved to Materia and left my house on Elemental, so I'd be pretty upset if I missed out because of a pure lottery system.

+1 (Non-Ishgard) FCFS on Materia DC.

SE please give us the option to purchase houses on a FCFS basis, like on other populated worlds upon initial release of their residential wards. We want to have the ability to choose our own plots and not to have that option taken away from us. This option was granted to other players, and we wanted to be treated in the same manner.

+1 showing support as a player that moved permanently to Materia for some FCFS housing in existing wards and not 100% lottery. Even 25% of existing housing as FCFS would be nice for those of us that know exactly what we want and have the resources to move the furniture market/spend gil/invest in gardening to make rare items more readily available (all of which sorely needed on this DC right now). An additional week of uncertainty in waiting for lottery, and then losing out houses to people that don't have the ability to participate in all these activities as actively is going to hurt the economy of Materia moreso.

Just gonna bump this and hope that they comment on this in the Live Letter part 2. Materia really wants a response from the team about this!

Nope. 100% lottery, please.

Another vote for SOME FCFS wards, just so we have a fair chance at running in to get something. I hate that we had to give up our housing to transfer, wait so long without housing and now we're slapped in the face with a MAYBE lottery win...

I am wondering if the issue with all wards being lottery on OCE is stemming from opening the old wards at the same time as Ishgard and therefore the change in the housing system?

If the problem lies in the coding and separating out one data centre from the rest in terms of implementation of the 6.1 patch, then surely it would make more sense to simply release the old wards a week or two ahead of 6.1 under the current system?

Perhaps we, the OCE data centre players affected, can get together and brainstorm a way in which to make this suggestion to the devs while we still have time?

Does anyone have suggestions?

It's too late, though there will be plenty of houses though, probably more houses than players actually.

Anyone who wants a house on Materia and is not picky will definitely get one, unless you are trying for one of those unicorn plots which well, I wish you good luck.

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Originally Posted by DeNada

It's too late, though there will be plenty of houses though, probably more houses than players actually.

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I actually don't think so. There are a lot of people on Materia, and a census of "4 person, rank 6 FCs, where the FC leader is level 1" is surprisingly large. The gil sellers have been very busy preparing to get their stock.

I think quite a few of the poor souls on Sophia especially will be missing out.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

a census of "4 person, rank 6 FCs, where the FC leader is level 1" is surprisingly large.

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It's not a surprise at all. RMT knows a prime opportunity to get in and control a significant part of the market. They will be jumping on everything in any FCFS wards hard before moving to lottery entries with the characters that didn't manage to pick up something in FCFS.

I doubt it will be limited to just FC houses, either. This would be the perfect time for RMT to start selling service accounts with a personal house attached considering the number of new players starting the game. There are bound to be curious people happy to pay to bypass both early leveling and the headache of trying to get a house. They'll have the level 50 Fantasia to race/gender change to their liking, can pick up any of the jobs they want to play if the original isn't to their liking, and have NG+ if they want to experience the ARR MSQ after all.

Easy solution to this is to just open all wards now with fcfs rules and house random timers enabled and expanded randomly for up to a weeks time total.

They are not going to do that clearly
Dust is settled whether people like it or now
It is lottery only even for Matria

The way this system is designed, and being applied to materia, makes me deeply regret giving up my houses to come here.

Good luck getting a plot on Sophia or Ravana, the only saving grace might be that the population isn't high enough to fill all the wards. Of course there will be a rush towards the end of the first draw, to get bids down on plots that nobody else has bid on yet. Leaving scraps at best for anyone who missed out in the first round.

Also this:

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Characters who fulfill the requirements below are eligible to submit one lottery entry per lottery period.

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Is a slap in the face to FC leaders. We have to choose between buying a house for our FC, or buying one for ourselves? And/or ask the same of our officers?

I was actually looking forward to the lottery system, but this is poorly designed.
https://i.imgur.com/XSbVOfl.png

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Originally Posted by Haru_au

The way this system is designed, and being applied to materia, makes me deeply regret giving up my houses to come here.

Good luck getting a plot on Sophia or Ravana, the only saving grace might be that the population isn't high enough to fill all the wards. Of course there will be a rush towards the end of the first draw, to get bids down on plots that nobody else has bid on yet. Leaving scraps at best for anyone who missed out in the first round.

Also this:

Is a slap in the face to FC leaders. We have to choose between buying a house for our FC, or buying one for ourselves? And/or ask the same of our officers?

I was actually looking forward to the lottery system, but this is poorly designed.
https://i.imgur.com/XSbVOfl.png

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I have an alt to buy for my FC for this reason, you still have time to do the same seeing as the 30 day timer only applies to transfer of leadership.

The way they handled the Materia data centre has really dimmed my view of the devs, I gave up a large house to support the move and this feels like a slap in the face from them.

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Originally Posted by LunaFancy

I have an alt to buy for my FC for this reason, you still have time to do the same seeing as the 30 day timer only applies to transfer of leadership.

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The 30 days applies to buy too. An alt put in today can't buy on the 11th.

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The way they handled the Materia data centre has really dimmed my view of the devs, I gave up a large house to support the move and this feels like a slap in the face from them.

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Big time.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

The 30 days applies to buy too. An alt put in today can't buy on the 11th.

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Oh damn. Good thing that I used my alts to found the FC I guess lol!

At this point the fact that I really love hanging out with the people in my FC is the only thing that will keep me in the game. If my second account doesn't get his house, that is a sub I will cancel for sure. I wonder how many people they will lose over this in the end tbh.

This has honestly just confirmed my move back to my old datacenter. I gave up my dream medium to come here for the good ping and hoped of getting another house but I feel like I've been spat on. If I'm going to suffer lottery I atleast want to be with my friends.

I wish you all luck with the lottery system, may you get your dream plots.

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Originally Posted by LunaFancy

I wonder how many people they will lose over this in the end tbh.

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I am not going to keep putting all that effort into a new alt if he's homeless.

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Originally Posted by LunaFancy

I have an alt to buy for my FC for this reason, you still have time to do the same seeing as the 30 day timer only applies to transfer of leadership.

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They had said in the live letter that it would also apply to giving members a rank with land acquisition privileges.

What is uncertain is if an alt could be added as a new member to a FC today and given a rank with land acquisition privileges, and would then retain the privilege once 6.1 is released since they would already have been given the rank and privilege under the current rules. SE doesn't tend to remove things retroactively.

At this point, there's no harm in trying just in case. It won't make a FC any worse off, and it might actually work to its advantage.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

They had said in the live letter that it would also apply to giving members a rank with land acquisition privileges.

What is uncertain is if an alt could be added as a new member to a FC today and given a rank with land acquisition privileges, and would then retain the privilege once 6.1 is released since they would already have been given the rank and privilege under the current rules. SE doesn't tend to remove things retroactively.

At this point, there's no harm in trying just in case. It won't make a FC any worse off, and it might actually work to its advantage.

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I don't think that will be workable though, since the new requirements for purchasing a new FC plot is that you need to be a member of the FC for at least 30 days.

Doesn't matter if you have land acquisition privelege or not in any case since the 30 days requirement will override it.

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Originally Posted by DeNada

I don't think that will be workable though, since the new requirements for purchasing a new FC plot is that you need to be a member of the FC for at least 30 days.

Doesn't matter if you have land acquisition privelege or not in any case since the 30 days requirement will override it.

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I saw that, but I still have to wonder if that's actually separate because during the live letter they said that members still in their new member period could not be granted the land acquisition privilege, not that there would be a blanket block regardless of what rank privileges they have.

Like I said, at this point it doesn't hurt a FC adding more alts to give it a try. They won't be any worse off if it doesn't work and it could be to their benefit if it does.

Regardless, it's only going to have a measurable impact on those who didn't prepared in advance. Those intending to abuse the system would have been stocking their FCs with the needed characters the week after the Live Letter if they hadn't already done it. Those characters will be past their 30 days by the time the patch is released (I'm assuming that will be April 12th). Flippers will still be able to get rid of their houses since they can move a 30-day character that wasn't the "buyer" into the FC master position then transfer the rest into a series of FCs rotating through buy/wait schedules. There's still a lot of holes in the system for flippers to slip through. Winning a lottery (once all the available plots are reduced to a few per lottery period) is more of a barrier than the new member restrictions, and they'll probably be able to make more money per sale from those not interested in fighting the lottery odds.

SE: "We will consider making a few wards FCFS if there is a strong demand"
Materia: "Here is our demand"
SE: "I'm gonna ignore that."
REALLY, SE? You couldnt have told us it was all FCFS BEFORE I transferred here and lost my dream plot? So many of us were betting on FCFS. Why put the effort into catering to the OCE playerbase if you don't even listen to our feedback?

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Originally Posted by Meowsalotte

Why put the effort into catering to the OCE playerbase if you don't even listen to our feedback?

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SE only created materia to get the oceanics off elemental, or they will prove me wrong by acting on the feedback.

Devs have definitely let down those who moved to OCE to help support the server. I would find the lottery slightly more bearable if they allowed you to enter for other houses you could be potentially interested in, instead of being locked to one house for 4 days. You'll still be in the RNG system but at least you'll have a chance to get a spot you like. If you win more than one locations lottery, you'll be forced to pick one and let the lottery re-roll after it takes out your submission. They could honestly even tax people who have entries in different houses and people would still be happy, either that or lower it down the lottery to 24 hours.

I understand the lottery system would be more fair to the DC's with a huge population, but OCE is small in comparison. They should make at least the ARR house districts FCFS like how it first was (Granted back then there were less people) But that's more or less what OCE is like compared to the other data centers.

All we can do is hold out hope that the devs actually read these threads & comments and hope they address it in the live letter. Copingway fellow OCE house enthusiasts.

I encourage fellow OCE players to voice your opinions.

I really dont believe that their going to force people to choose between personal and fc. Especially with the lottery system along side fc only and personal only wards. I am placing my bets it just was not worded right. Long as players can choose between using a house for fc or personal in current wards there should be no issue. With players entering lotteries for both.

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Originally Posted by SolumAus

Devs have definitely let down those who moved to OCE to help support the server. I would find the lottery slightly more bearable if they allowed you to enter for other houses you could be potentially interested in, instead of being locked to one house for 4 days. You'll still be in the RNG system but at least you'll have a chance to get a spot you like. If you win more than one locations lottery, you'll be forced to pick one and let the lottery re-roll after it takes out your submission. They could honestly even tax people who have entries in different houses and people would still be happy, either that or lower it down the lottery to 24 hours.

I understand the lottery system would be more fair to the DC's with a huge population, but OCE is small in comparison. They should make at least the ARR house districts FCFS like how it first was (Granted back then there were less people) But that's more or less what OCE is like compared to the other data centers.

All we can do is hold out hope that the devs actually read these threads & comments and hope they address it in the live letter. Copingway fellow OCE house enthusiasts.

I encourage fellow OCE players to voice your opinions.

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I bought my personal during ARR it was not population size that kept wards empty back then. The average player just had less gil and avenues for making it quickly. So wards didnt fill up as fast as they do now.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

I really dont believe that their going to force people to choose between personal and fc. Especially with the lottery system along side fc only and personal only wards. I am placing my bets it just was not worded right. Long as players can choose between using a house for fc or personal in current wards there should be no issue. With players entering lotteries for both.

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They've been very clear that it's one entry per lottery period per character, and that we would need to choose between using our entry on a personal house or a FC house. That cuts down on overall competition for plots.

FCs are usually going to have members who either already own a house, aren't eligible to purchase for whatever reason, or don't want one. Those members can make a purchase on behalf of the FC while the other members attempt to get their personal house. It's going to be rare that every single member of a FC is trying to buy a personal house at the same time the FC is attempting to buy its first house.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

They've been very clear that it's one entry per lottery period per character, and that we would need to choose between using our entry on a personal house or a FC house. That cuts down on overall competition for plots.

FCs are usually going to have members who either already own a house, aren't eligible to purchase for whatever reason, or don't want one. Those members can make a purchase on behalf of the FC while the other members attempt to get their personal house. It's going to be rare that every single member of a FC is trying to buy a personal house at the same time the FC is attempting to buy its first house.

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Going to be interesting to see how it all goes down then..