Please Remove Creepy Doll Banner from Launcher

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Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto

Meoni mentions it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGGWZJqi2VM

Official website shown: https://dollfie.volks.co.jp/dd/speci...d_yshtola.html

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This explains her uncharacteristically soft facial expression.

Her expression being untypical for Y'shtola aside, the doll looks pretty good. And it's BJD, so the price is not a surprise.

what kind of adult do you think buys a doll

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

what kind of adult do you think buys a doll

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I think they're called collectors, kids usually don't have a grand for dolls.

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

I think they're called collectors, kids usually don't have a grand for dolls.

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Someone would actually pay $1000 for THAT?

I guess I need to get out more..

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Originally Posted by Windfire

Not soft plastic, resin but in any case given the brand, I'm pretty sure that's actually "cheap" for one of their dolls.

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Even for that brand, it's actually really overpriced.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

My question isn't whether or not the doll approaches uncanny valley. It's who will be willing to shell out nearly $1k for a soft plastic doll? Your average FFXIV player does not have that kind of money to throw around.

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Ball-jointed doll collectors, primarily.

Remember, it's only a real fear meant to be taken seriously if the devs say so.

I mean some people may have Pediophobia

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

DING! DING! DING!

I've been wracking my brain over who the doll face reminded me of since I first saw it. Thank you!

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Especially as she appears in the video

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/c6...0babb4f082.jpg

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Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa

Someone would actually pay $1000 for THAT?

I guess I need to get out more..

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I mean the clothes on it are detailed I suppose, but not really my thing I'd rather get one of those cute lil alphinaud figures or something, or a detailed statue.

Personally, I found doll Y'shotla look pretty and don't really mind if the ad is there.



However, I have a nephew who is afraid of clown and dolls, because human tends to fear of something human-like but without facial expression. He is scared enough to not wander near any clowns and dolls he spots.



I think it would be nicer if SE either remove the ad splash, or make it show last on the launcher.

I would rather they have the t shirt on top of the list, that perfect alexander shirt looks so good too

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Originally Posted by Snark_x

...if y'all can change the Sage icon because people have a holes phobia...

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Wait... what?

Edit: A quick google search answered my question. I didn't know this even happened.

Yeah, what kind of adult collects toys, anyway.

:::quietly hides shelves full of Transformers, Gundams, Pokemon plushies, and various other nerd stuff::::

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Yeah, what kind of adult collects toys, anyway.

:::quietly hides shelves full of Transformers, Gundams, Pokemon plushies, and various other nerd stuff::::

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lol

I think a lot of people do, whether they want to admit it or not. I am no exception. I wear my nerd badge with honor.

100% support this thread.

I don't need an add for a freaking thousand dollar doll on my launcher.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

It's not creepy at all, it's cute.

https://i.imgur.com/qNin5cK.jpg

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To be honest, I find it creepy. But that doesn't mean I request a change. As any grown person I bitch about it for 5 seconds and then move on. lol

At first glance, it's some random Halloween witch doll with a poofy wig and laidback horse ears (why horse ears?).

When I check the close up of the face on the SE Store site, it becomes extremely creepy (do not look at the close ups if you're already creeped out by the launcher pic).

The only thing that connects it to Y'shtola for me is the face tattooing. Clearly it's reflecting the Dollfie brand aesthestic, which doesn't appeal to me, and not the in-game character.

For those shocked at the price, that's not outrageous for a good quality 24 inch collectable doll. I'm just not seeing "quality" in what little information is available. No details on the material used for the doll body sculpt other than resin eyes, no list of the fabrics used in the outfit other than "leather gloves" (though there's only one glove). Maybe Dollfie has a standard material and fabric they use for all their dolls, and they just assume buyers know what it is?

If you're not into Dollfies, I wouldn't worry about it. Lots of other things appear on the launcher that we don't care about. No use getting worked up over a doll.

Don't think it looks like Y'shtola at all with that face, if people really wanna pay money for that .. then well ok i guess.

Pretty funny how people seem fine with overpriced XIV merchs all the time but when it's a more niche type of collector items it's overpriced.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

lol

I think a lot of people do, whether they want to admit it or not. I am no exception. I wear my nerd badge with honor.

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.. excuse me they are NOT toys.. they are COLLECTABLES... that I can play with...


Though I gotta admit if I bought a $1000 doll I would probably never touch it beyond arranging it in a glass case. I've owned cheaper cars.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'm just not seeing "quality" in what little information is available.

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From what I've gleaned most of the price is from the handpainted/crafted factor along with her head being a unique sculpt, the popular license, and her outfit being very complex. Similar dolls on the site go for around the same.

The Yshtola doll reminds me of Leech Woman from the 1989 "Puppet Master" movie. I really hate to speak ill of an artist's work, but this doll is disturbing on so many levels.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Yeah, what kind of adult collects toys, anyway.

:::quietly hides shelves full of Transformers, Gundams, Pokemon plushies, and various other nerd stuff::::

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Bah, I have long abandoned such childish things! Now excuse me while I go dance a plastic miniature around on a table while pretending to be a wizard!

Man, you play a cabbage patch kid. If we remove this doll, i suggest removing your creepy race as well.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

.. excuse me they are NOT toys.. they are COLLECTABLES... that I can play with...

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

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I still have stuff from macross, various gundam series, gen 1 transformers, original first print run dragonball cards, ranma 1/2, astroboy, and the original kamen rider from when I was a kid... >.>;

I'm still trying to get over the Bonnie Tyler comparison, I didnt see it at first but now its looking more and more like her every time I see it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Yeah, what kind of adult collects toys, anyway.

:::quietly hides shelves full of Transformers, Gundams, Pokemon plushies, and various other nerd stuff::::

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Giving people shit for what they collect or enjoy always reeks of insecurity imo.
Even in gaming with industry people ( especially game journalists ) I've seen people unironically act ashamed and apologetic because they enjoyed a '' not serious '' video game like DMC5 and Code Vein.
There's definitely a very vocal group of people in gaming that act like only '' seriousface and sad '' games like God of War and TLOU can be enjoyed by adults, and any game that is a bit wacky or doesn't spend most of the time being sad is '' for kids/ immature people ''.
Imo being an actual adult entails not being insecure about these things, I think people who are insecure and try to hide what they enjoy are the immature ones.
It's like they're trying too hard to prove how '' mature '' they are and it's really transparent and obnoxious.
If you have to prove it then it's probably not true to begin with.

Either way I don't even think that these are toys either, there's nothing wrong with collecting them but I kinda separate figures and toys a bit.
Transformers for example are something that you can buy a kid and that they can play with, I think that these are a bit too expensive and moreso meant for display.

Edit: With that said I'd still buy and collect FFXIV toys lol.
Especially since they'd most likely be a bit more affordable too, I'd actually really like that.

I find the dolls design extremely attractive and nice looking. I almost thought it was CGI at first.
If I could afford it, I would definitely buy one. So I don't know where the uncanny valley thing come from, but I guess people are just different? I might find one thing very visually pleasing and someone else might find it very disturbing.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Pretty funny how people seem fine with overpriced XIV merchs all the time but when it's a more niche type of collector items it's overpriced.

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I don't think it's overpriced. I've seen some of these dolls in person at a shop in Akihabara, they look incredible. I just don't have the interest to spend over a grand on it (once taxes, shipping, etc are included).

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I don't think it's overpriced. I've seen some of these dolls in person at a shop in Akihabara, they look incredible. I just don't have the interest to spend over a grand on it (once taxes, shipping, etc are included).

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It's definitely overpriced compared to other dolls of the same brand and scale, but I'm just pointing out the irony of people not batting an eye at stuff like a 40€ mount, a 60€ plush or a 85€ 15cm figure but a 900€ SD fullset BJD is crossing a line

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

It's definitely overpriced compared to other dolls of the same brand and scale, but I'm just pointing out the irony of people not batting an eye at stuff like a 40€ mount, a 60€ plush or a 85€ 15cm figure but a 900€ SD fullset BJD is crossing a line

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A mount or plush or a figure dont appear in my nightmares. The 900 euro figure is something that belongs deeply locked away together with clowns, to be never seen again.

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Originally Posted by Juun

A mount or plush or a figure dont appear in my nightmares. The 900 euro figure is something that belongs deeply locked away together with clowns, to be never seen again.

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Alright, that's just you, doesn't make the outrage over the price any less funny coming from a certain crowd of people.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

It's definitely overpriced compared to other dolls of the same brand and scale

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Not necessarily true. It really seems to depend a lot on the brand being licensed. The 2B Dolfie is the same price, and the Hatsune Miku doll is slightly cheaper but in the same ballpark. If you're looking at unlicensed original characters then, sure, you can get them for cheaper but for the actual licensed characters YShtola isn't notably more expensive.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Not necessarily true. It really seems to depend a lot on the brand being licensed. The 2B Dolfie is the same price, and the Hatsune Miku doll is slightly cheaper but in the same ballpark. If you're looking at unlicensed original characters then, sure, you can get them for cheaper but for the actual licensed characters YShtola isn't notably more expensive.

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Limited licensed character DD dolls usually go anywhere between 55k and 80k JPY, Y'shtola is still 10k JPY more expensive than 2B and almost twice as expensive as non-lims

10k JPY isn't really anything to scoff at

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

.. excuse me they are NOT toys.. they are COLLECTABLES... that I can play with...


Though I gotta admit if I bought a $1000 doll I would probably never touch it beyond arranging it in a glass case. I've owned cheaper cars.


From what I've gleaned most of the price is from the handpainted/crafted factor along with her head being a unique sculpt, the popular license, and her outfit being very complex. Similar dolls on the site go for around the same.

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Just being handcrafted doesn't make it quality, though it's naturally going to drive up the price due to the human labor costs.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Just being handcrafted doesn't make it quality, though it's naturally going to drive up the price due to the human labor costs.

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True. But I think since her face is uniquely painted as well (basic makeup on dollheads isn't as complex) it's a factor at least. Probably the biggest factor is how different the doll is in many ways.

You'd probably have to talk to an actual collector of these things to get a real breakdown.... anyone?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Just being handcrafted doesn't make it quality, though it's naturally going to drive up the price due to the human labor costs.

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It is quality. While Y'shtola is overpriced the average pricetag for that type of doll is usually well earned. Hung up or not over it "not looking like Y'shtola" it seems very clear from the close ups that the facepaint is good and there's possibility that we're still missing details that don't show up in the pictures.

Why she look like the Leech Lady doll from Puppet Master?
https://i.imgur.com/iDdrlVA.jpg

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Originally Posted by Snark_x

I know Y'shtola is a beloved character. I know y'all love collaboration and branding. But seriously, if y'all can change the Sage icon because people have a holes phobia, you can stop bombarding every single person who logs in with this horrifyingly eerie uncanny valley doll face. There was an evolutionary reason that humanity has a deep seated fear of things that look mostly human but aren't imprinted into our genome. You're disconcerting more people than a hole phobia here. Make it go away.

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Pediophobia. Yeah, it sounds bad, but that is the actual name of fear of dolls. :P