Red Mage is a job that's a hybrid of Black and White Mage, yet doesn't play or feel like either. I'm sure they can design Geomancer in a way where it's not a blatant copy of Conjurer/White Mage, even if they share similar concepts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yencat
...Then again maybe not, especially after what they've done with the healers in 5.0.
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12-23-2019, 10:32 AMdinnertime
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12-23-2019, 10:50 AMAnimaAnimus
I want to say Puppetmaster because that job is a ton of fun in ffxi, but....with the trajectory this game is going I have a feeling it would be so sickly kawaii that it would ruin the job completely and make it more of a joke.
Green mage would also be fun since rdm is basically just a budget blm with a lackluster physical rotation, but since they stripped the game of buffs and debuffs that is out...
Being of pure Nordic decent I would like me a dual axe wielding Viking, but I also love the aesthetic cor got in ffxi, so likely those 2 -
12-23-2019, 11:30 AMRenka777
I'd like to have a job with Velvet's gameplay (Tales of Berseria) in this game
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12-23-2019, 11:53 AMBarraindNah, its basically this game's Paladin if you removed heals and added a major lifedrain to AtonementQuote:
Sword Saint
Isn't this basically Samurai?
Uh, not even close.Quote:
Arithmetician, just a synonym for Scholar
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12-23-2019, 12:05 PMTracewood
Gambler/Corsair
In XI it uses a musket, but XIV could make it a twist and have it be a support/ranged DPS that uses dual musket pistols, and throws dice and cards. I can already imagine the names of certain abilities: "Stacked Deck" "Snake Eyes" "Six Shooter" "Loaded Dice" "Royal Flush" "Poker Face" "Lady Luck" "Blackjack". Yeah, it's casino themed, and what better place to have the job quest start at? The Gold Saucer!
It would seem a bit soon since we just had Dancer, and ranged DPS need some tuning as it is. -
12-23-2019, 12:15 PMMimilu
Current results:
Total Votes: 780
1st. Chemist: 158 votes (20% of the votes)
2nd. Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer/Spellblade: 87 votes (11%)
3rd. Time Mage: 71 votes (9%)
4th. Necromancer: 64 votes (8%)
5th. Beastmaster: 57 votes (7%)
6th. Geomancer: 54 votes (7%)
7th. Puppetmaster: 36 votes (5%)
8th. Sword Saint: 28 votes (4%)
9th. Green Mage: 25 votes (3%)
10th. Judgemaster: 24 votes (3%)
11th. Viking: 20 votes (3%)
12th-13th. Arithmetician/Calculator and Corsair: 14 votes each (2% each)
14th. Chocobo Knight: 13 votes (2%)
15h. Hunter/Ranger/Sniper: 12 votes (2%)
16th. Mystic/Oracle: 11 votes (1%)
17th. Illusionist: 10 votes (1%)
18th-19th. Gunner/Fusilier and Morpher: 9 votes each (1% each)
20th-23rd Cannoneer/Flintlock, Onion Knight/Memorist/Storyteller8, Psychic, and Sage: 8 votes each (1% each)
24th-26th. Elementalist, Juggler, and Mascot: 6 votes each (1%)
27th. Dragonkin: 5 votes (1%)
28th-30th. Animist, Orator/Mediator, and Pictomancer: 3 votes each (<1%) -
12-24-2019, 05:34 AMAlaeacusQuote:
Originally Posted by tdb
Kind of but not really. Sword Saint as a class would not make sense really, as the only person with this title was said to have mastered all types of classes that used sword (which is essentially why he was called Sword Saint).Quote:
Originally Posted by Barraind
Sword Saint would be a heavily armored and overpowered DPS class, but have access to using one-hand sword, two-hand sword, Rapier, Katana, Ninja Blades, etc. -
12-24-2019, 05:50 AMBright-Flower
My dream job would be a rune knight type. Tank (or maiming dps) with heavy armor, 2h runeblades not as oversized as DRK swords, like an inverse red mage with some ranged abilities but mostly melee. Maybe say they'd have ranged gauge spenders etc. Similar to how paladin is a tank but its spells have range to them. My first thought is tank but making a maiming dps may help it stand out more from paladin.
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12-24-2019, 06:01 AMBarraindDepends if we go by the concept or execution.Quote:
Sword Saint would be a heavily armored and overpowered DPS class, but have access to using one-hand sword, two-hand sword, Rapier, Katana, Ninja Blades, etc.
Concept was master swordsman who used any and all swords and swordskills.
Execution was: I have a haste sword, shield, cloak, and have DD+Lifedrain, DD+break or targeted AE, bonk bonk bonkbonk bonk bonk bonk bonk. As a class, it was absolutely wasted on the guy who could sneeze on you for lethal damage. It just let him sneeze at a group of people for lethal damage.
The biggest problem with classes being added to 14 is that 14 doesnt do subtlety or nuance, and has no idea how to handle classes that were designed around multiple different weapons.
I can use a sword and a katana dual wielded! Thats nice, but you cant.
I'm, designed around using a spear or greatsword. Thats cool, you cant.
My kit has a few real damage skills, but the core of it is being a passive support. thats cool, but thats not a supported class in current gen MMO's.
This class can act as a passable enough tank and healer, with a kit that does a whole lot of "wait, thats a thing?" Cool, but 14 doesnt workt hat way.
Temple Knight. (also Oracle. Mediator.) ... :| -
12-24-2019, 11:46 AMAdventZeropretty much word for word what I've been asking to have for years. Kind of lost hope in recent years, but I'll like your post and cast my vote in the poll anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright-Flower
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12-24-2019, 07:41 PMKaiserdrache
A Sword Saint is an advanced form of a Paladin, which sacrifices his Shield for a second sword to become more offensive and parries attacks instead of blocking attacks with a shield with the swords to perform deadly counterattacks.
Thats why i said, alot of mentions here made no sense unless SE has plans for giving us further advanced jobs with say Lvl 90, because they could turn then jobs like the redmage for example into an advanced form the Elementalist
They could turn the Astrologian into an advanced job, the Oracle which is then basically Astro + Geo together, because Geomancer is only part if Astros story, no need to make two jobs, when you can make basically 2 in 1 by advancing the job progression in FF14 to a final last tier.
Then could upgrade Se Machinist into Gunners to officislly retain back some skills back they had before the redesign with a gameplay twist to be able to switch to Dual Pistols as MH n OH weapon instead of guns turning Maschinist basically into FFX-2 Yuna style gunners to give players the choice of playing either a machine heavy style, or gunning heavy style with maschine skills switching to pistol skills when equipping dual pistols.
Then could Se upgrade Paladins to Sword Saints, Ninjas to Assassins, warriors officially into Berserkers and so on and make the gameplay of the classes more interesing with new mechanicd eventually being added -
12-24-2019, 08:33 PMYencatI don't doubt it. What little we've seen of Geomancer in XIV is not much like Conjurer and seemingly more aligned with AST.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinnertime
Still, I'd rather see a non-magical healer for a change so I've shifted from Green Mage to "Chemist" or whatever they end up calling it. I don't see melee healers working in this game so something that works at range but isn't a spellcaster could be fun. -
12-24-2019, 09:02 PMStriderShinryuI've thought a bit more about this topic and this sort of thing falls in line with my thinking as well. It's true that some of the proposed classes do seem similar to ones we already have but that's not necessarily a bad thing. What SE could do is some sort of branching or spec system where you could have, say, Archer split into either Bard or Sniper. Go the DPS support route with heavy AoE or Sniper that focuses purely on DPS and single target. That would keep them from having to make completely separate jobs with completely separate animation sets and gear sets which the devs frequently mention as reasons to not make new jobs while at the same time giving players the variety and diversity they are asking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiserdrache
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12-24-2019, 10:08 PMMoofiaBossVal
I voted for Green Mage because controllers feel like a forgotten playstyle since holy trinity became the standard party composition MMOs are designed around. Juggling buffs and debuffs and using utility and CC spells at opportune moments feels great. That said, I seriously doubt we would ever see this playstyle make it into FFXIV, as it is fundamentally designed around the holy trinity.
Big shoutout to Chocobo Knights. One of most iconic fantasy images is that of a knight on horseback. It is most unfortunate that video games hardly ever fulfill that fantasy. Either you can't fight mounted at all, or if you can it's either impractical or the mechanic is straight up crap. I think Mount & Blade Warband is the only game where I was able to have fun being a knight on horseback. If it wasn't for Green Mages being ever so slightly more likely to make it into FFXIV (albeit with such major changes they probably wouldn't be anything like how I envisioned them), I would have voted for Chocobo Knights. -
12-25-2019, 02:19 AMCaptainLagbeard
I want a Viking class, with Warhammers for weapons.
The lack of Blunt weaponry is real. -
12-25-2019, 04:21 AME4EO
Probably Chemist. I've been playing FF Tactics and the very first healer you get is Chemist so maybe I'm biased, but even after that potions in older FF's have always been a important source of healing for the entire party throughout a entire fight, you know how much they'll heal so they're very consistent, only problem is getting the Gil to buy them but that usually becomes a non issue in the older FF's I've played, don't know how 14 would handle getting the potions.
Maybe they could do something similar in 14 where each potion heals a set amount, but that set amount gets upgraded as the Chemist levels up, IDK, it'd require more thought and I'd prefer to focus on more important things on Christmas Eve rather than silly job ideas. -
12-25-2019, 05:18 AMRyuDragnierIn FFX-2, Alchemist had a skill called Stash. From Stash, they could use any learned item an infinite amount of times. Meaning they could use Potions, Hi-Potions, X-Potions, Elixirs, etc infinitely. They'd most likely do a similar thing with the items being "infinite" (yet limited) by making them be created from your own Aether (meaning MP).Quote:
Originally Posted by E4EO
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12-25-2019, 08:57 PMZanarkand-Ronso
Many of these classes/jobs are already covered, so adding them would just be putting in duplicated jobs.
Then some of them just wouldn't work in an MMO, especially with XIVs system.
A couple of these could also be melded or have some of its ideas put into the already existing jobs. Have how they work change up, like how ShBs White Mage has drifted away from using the lands elements and is Embracing light magic. Becoming a fully realized White Mage -
12-25-2019, 10:03 PMGrimGale
At least one of the new jobs needs to be a Healer. If the next Expansion doesn't include a healer I can't imagine what the healer player base would do.
I personally would love a Battle Medic, following the concept of the Chemist.
We've seen many Concepts for Chemist style healers in the healer forums. Most seem to work around a Mudra style type of Mixing skill, which honestly seems very interesting to me. -
12-26-2019, 01:07 AMMimilu
Current Results
Total Votes: 920
1st. Chemist: 183 votes (20% of the votes)
2nd. Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer/Spellblade: 101 votes (11%)
3rd. Time Mage: 94 votes (10%)
4th. Necromancer: 78 votes (8%)
5th. Beastmaster: 67 votes (7%)
6th. Geomancer: 63 votes (7%)
7th. Puppetmaster: 41 votes (4%)
8th. Sword Saint: 30 votes (3%)
9th. Green Mage: 29 votes (3%)
10th. Judgemaster: 27 votes (3%)
11th. Viking: 24 votes (3%)
12th. Chocobo Knight: 17 votes (2%)
13th. Corsair: 16 votes (2%)
14th. Mystic/Oracle: 15 votes (2%)
15th. Arithmetician/Calculator: 14 votes (2%)
16th. Hunter/Ranger/Sniper: 12 votes (1%)
17th. Gunner/Fusilier: 11 (1%)
18th-19th. Illusionist and Morpher: 11 votes each (1%)
20th-22nd. Cannoneer/Flintlock, Onion Knight/Memorist/Storyteller, and Psychic: 10 votes each (1%)
23rd. Sage: 9 votes (1%)
24th-25th. Elementalist and Mascot: 7 votes each (1%)
26th-27th. Dragonkin and Juggler: 6 votes each (1%)
28th-29th. Orator/Mediator and Pictomancer: 4 votes each (<1%)
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12-26-2019, 01:12 AMAdonanYeah, we get it. Chemist stomped every other class into the dirt, you don't need to keep reminding us. One day, I'll get my Onion Knight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
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12-26-2019, 01:23 AMMimiluI'm not trying to rub anything into people's faces, I'm just posting results. >x>()Quote:
Originally Posted by Adonan
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12-26-2019, 01:33 AMRyaz
I went with Corsair in hope of using dual pistols one day.
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12-26-2019, 02:07 AMTheskymarble
I'm pretty sure Chemist or something like it will be the new healer for the next expansion with everyone talking about it and wanting it.
As for me I voted Mystic Knight as its one of my favorite archetypes in a RPG and RDM really isn't doing much with the whole melee thing so maybe make it like a hybrid that goes in for most attacks but has some attacks that lets it stay out of melee ranged? I don't know but I don't think it would hurt to have another melee with the game having 6 ranged dps classes. -
12-26-2019, 02:24 AMVahlnirAnd then a few threads will pop up asking for Chemist to be a dps job because that's how people roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theskymarble
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12-26-2019, 03:41 AMZanarkand-RonsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Theskymarble
Unless things change, the story looks like its taking us Garlemald. So a Chemist Job just makes nothing but senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
Heres to HOPING its a Healer...besides the fact that we could use a new healer, it would just be a fun and interesting Concept to have a Non-Caster/Non-Traditional Healer to play. -
12-26-2019, 05:02 AMZanarkand-Ronso
Animist:
This Would only work Limited
Arithmetician/Calculator:
This would be more fun as a Healer
Beastmaster & Puppetmaster:
I think if we got this, it would be another Limited job...Unless they can Balance it with Summoner.
Cannoneer/Flintlock & Gunner/Fusilier & Corsair :
We already have this - Machinist
Different types of Guns and Gunskills with new weapons would be kinda cool though. Even if just cosmetic. Heck Id support just purely cosmetic weapons,
Chemist:
This is the Job I and many want as a New Healer. It makes sense if we are heading to Garlemald. Plus it would be a cool new Non-Caster type of Healer. It would be aesthetically new.
Chocobo Knight:
This would be cool...But Im not sure if it would work in FFXIV. Riding on the Chocobo as a tank would be awesome. But again, not sure how they would try to make it work.
Dragonkin:
We already have this - Dragoon. Now, it WOULD be really cool and i might happen that in the future Dragoons might get a transformation ability. Or even bring back the Pet from XI.
Elementalist:
We already have this - Conjurer. The stat Debuff might cause a balancing issues.
Trying to push Debuffs will either make Content too easy with a new Meta, or fights will get buffed to compensate and balance it, ruining content a little bit.
Geomancer:
I was Pro-Geo for a while...but it just sounds like conjurer at a higher level. Which isn't a BAD thing, but in terms of giving us new and diverse jobs, it just wouldnt work IMO.
Green Mage & Time Mage:
We already have this - Ast.
Hunter/Ranger/Sniper:
I like the idea, but most of these skills would only really be good in PvP or PvE open world/Limited Job Content. -
12-26-2019, 05:02 AMZanarkand-Ronso
Illusionist:
We already have Black Mage and Summoner. XIV would need to brig Blue Mages Masked Carnaval Elemental weaknesses to make this idea...a thing.
Judgemaster:
Me and a Friend like ot joke this will be an Endgame Job. Like at the end of the game, on the final expansion this will be the Final Joke, and it will be an Overpowered Magic-Melee Tank Job. That or if we are heading to Garelmald it could potentally be another new Tank.
Either way it would be really cool
Juggler & Mascot:
To Goofy and Gimicky, dont think it would work in XIV. Plus I think Debuff skills on enemies might cause imbalance that will be hard to balance. Id hate to see any game become 100% Meta and if you dont run a specific job then you can't do content.
(Or people GateKeep which creates Toxicity)
Morpher & Mystic/Oracle & Viking:
It would be cute and look Aestetically awesome. But dont think it would make a compelling Job in XIV.
Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer/Spellblade:
Magic Tank, this is something Im still hoping for. So far we have Dark Knight, but Id love to see a Rune Fencer Tank. Would also work for Garlemald if it works the way I hear.
Necromancer:
This might work. Maybe. Be a cool 4th Magic Ranged DPS
Onion Knight/Memorist/Storyteller:
We already have this - Bluemage
As cool as Onion KNight would be.
Orator/Mediator & Pictomancer:
I just dont think this would work in XIV
Psychic:
Another Job I think might be cool in Garlemald. I can't think of any reason to deny this job. My frame of Reference is FFX-2 International (Or the original Japanese Version) and they were pretty awesome.
Sage: Learned wizards who use high-level Black and White magic.
We Kind of already have this - Redmage
Sword Saint:
I think this should get a Different name, otherwise Im not against a Dual Wielding DPS. -
12-26-2019, 05:38 AMLimonia
Personally, I would really like to see Geomancer, and as a healer. Caster DPS would also be okay, but I would just prefer it to be a healer. Lore-wise it may be a little too similar to CNJ and AST, but I wouldn't mind it, it could still be different enough if they want it to be.
Maybe I'm just not really a fan of "shooting potions to heal", so I'd rather have Geomancer instead of Chemist. -
12-26-2019, 05:43 AMTheskymarbleAgreed, it be really cool to see a less magic focus healer and more technology. Its why classes like Gunbreaker and Machinist are pretty cool, they still use magic but that definitely have a tech focus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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12-26-2019, 07:06 AMLihtleita
its ok cannoneer i still love you
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12-27-2019, 10:55 AMSieyaM
I voted for Mystic Knight because I would also like to see a job that functions the inverse of a RDM, where most of their time is spent using melee sword abilities with high level magic finishers.
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12-27-2019, 11:26 AMMartaDemireuxPLD says hello!Quote:
Originally Posted by SieyaM
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12-27-2019, 11:50 AMAtmaweapon510
Cannoneer and Chemist could arguably be combined into one job since Combine is just a more limited iteration of Mix. It could have a Mix gauge for support effects and a Combine gauge for damaging effects.
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12-27-2019, 09:04 PMJandroid
I would like to play as a Puppetmaster if it meant I could have something that would resemble a stand from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure that would fight with me. Otherwise I would like to see the Necromancer in the game.
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12-27-2019, 10:13 PMDynnDiablos
I was Puppetmaster in FFXI and it truly was a joy. I would love to play that again.
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12-27-2019, 10:51 PMDeceptus
Healer, doesn't matter which, but we need a new one.
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12-28-2019, 12:39 AMCeasaria- Assassin too similar to Ninja ? Wait for my job concept then which should arrive in late january/early february :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
- Still, even if I have got 0 comment about my Pyrotechnician job for healer, it's still possible to get a version of this : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ian-job-design as Festivalist.
Other original jobs I have done which could appear one day (who knows) are Dryad (kinda Dancer / Green Mage), Meteorologist (kinda Red Mage / Geomancer), and Time Knight (kinda Time Mage / Noctis from FFXV).
Nothing is impossible !
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12-28-2019, 12:39 AMSieyaMI would also love a new healer but I feel we will get another "Balancing the current healers is too hard" response from the team and end up with two more DPS for the next expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deceptus
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12-29-2019, 12:59 AMMimiluI didn't say any of the jobs I excluded from the poll weren't possible, I just only had 30 slots for the poll and listed the reasons why I didn't pick those jobs. >w>Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceasaria
I agree that any of the jobs can work.