Would you rather have had Male Viera or Hrothgar?

i actually ran a similar poll in the japanese gd. none of them replied to the thread, perhaps out of not wanting to interact with a filthy gaijin such as myself. currently it is overwhelmingly in favor of hrothgar.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...12#post4978812

https://www.strawpoll.me/17982182/r

again, if you look at the thread you will see that there are no replies as i type this post.

as for myself i personally would have preferred male viera. i understand them wanting to implement a second buff mclargehuge race, but i think they could've taken a page from wow's book. they have beast/monster races of all shapes and sizes.

Definitely Hrothgar. We have enough pretty boys and pretty girls.

If I had to choose, then naturally I'd choose Hrothgar (male and female). Viera aren't all that interesting to me as all I see is a human with X animal part.

I chose Male Viera on the poll, but depending on what the model ended up like it could have very well gone the other way. I'm not exactly keen on even more cats. Maybe if they imported some Chua or Popori?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I chose Male Viera on the poll, but depending on what the model ended up like it could have very well gone the other way. I'm not exactly keen on even more cats. Maybe if they imported some Chua or Popori?

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Qiqirn. It must be the qiqirn.

Uhh... Hrothgar is that mountain in Skyrim you climb to have a bunch of old guys upgrade your fus roh dah, right? Ehh, no thanks, I've done Skyrim to death.

So by process of elimination, I'd rather have had manbuns.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Qiqirn. It must be the qiqirn.

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Sold. It's now female Viera and Qiqirn.

Male Viera, if as they appeared in the concept art, but solely for subjective reasons -- nothing to do with allotment of development time, cohesion, or any gender equality principles. They were just exactly what I was looking for in terms of physique. Though I would have preferred to then use a helm that hid my ears completely, so... maybe I'll just hope for new body type options among Midlanders, Au Ra, or Elezen?

...Of any new animalistic races, I'd have most wanted IX's Burmencians or Dwarves... Hrothgar would be a good boon for diversity of appearance options, too, though, if only they looked less... low-res, so to speak?

Would rather have had male Viera, although Hrothgar have grown on me somewhat.

Still a bit weird though, you'll be in a main city, hearing about beastmen acting up again or how beastmen are banned from the city or whatever, meanwhile a giant 8ft tall dude covered in fur with a lions head and a giant horn is just chilling in his speedo on the bench across from you.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Look at the % of people who may male miqo'te or elezen vs those who play roegadyn and you'll have a better picture of what people would prefer.

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I play Miqote and would rather have Hrothgar...

Why are people always comparing Wreck-it-Ralph to our glorious lion men?

Hrothgar, Devs should have never added Viera as a race in the first place. We need more unique looking playable race in this game than just another human with animal parts attached to them.

Personally Hrothgar, as playing as a bunny doesn't appeal to me in any way.

I'd still like them to one day pursue the option, mainly as I know some women who want it and are reluctant to play female characters.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I play Miqote and would rather have Hrothgar...

Why are people always comparing Wreck-it-Ralph to our glorious lion men?

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Because they are the more similar race: bulky buff giants often seen with more fantasy skin palettes. In fact many Roes are changing to Hrot.
All the other races are quite different, only possible similarity with Miqo'te is the feline motif which is a Hrot option but they are completely different actually.

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Originally Posted by Greven

Because they are the more similar race: bulky buff giants often seen with more fantasy skin palettes. In fact many Roes are changing to Hrot.
All the other races are quite different, only possible similarity with Miqo'te is the feline motif which is a Hrot option but they are completely different actually.

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I've always wanted a larger, buff race option, but Roes are fugly as hell and dont have any distinguishing features besides a flat nose. (Galka has tails, why did they strip that away? It's like removing Elezen's ears.)
I'm sure many others feels the same, so why anyone would think we could just make do with Roes and not have anything like Hrothgar always bewildered me.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I play Miqote and would rather have Hrothgar...

Why are people always comparing Wreck-it-Ralph to our glorious lion men?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I've always wanted a larger, buff race option, but Roes are fugly as hell and dont have any distinguishing features besides a flat nose. (Galka has tails, why did they strip that away? It's like removing Elezen's ears.)
I'm sure many others feels the same, so why anyone would think we could just make do with Roes and not have anything like Hrothgar always bewildered me.

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IDK if it's them just being intentionally obtuse or if people just don't pay attention to the difference in body shape because all they see is big + muscles.
As a Femroe I'm always looking out for anything that's big so it's clear as day to me how different they are. I figured that we'll have to wait for the Benchmark to drive it home for some.

As for the topic, Hrothgar (after I got over the strange reveal vid. You can tell it has crappy lighting likely because it was a rush job and they wanted make it look "cool") actually make me PROUD for the devs and leadership of this game. As a Viera support for years I'd tots stomp out the opposing "beast race" supporters by just pointing out how the devs would never put in the work to model and animate expressions for beast faces or remake so much head gear to work on them. "Oh, Viera are just Humans with animal ears? Welp, that's all you can hope to get ... this aint GW2 or wow."

Hrothgar actually deliver something new to the roster. They fill more than one void in the line up and at the end of the day what's the point of making a new race if not to bring something new that can't be experienced with the current ones?

Can't wait for the benchmark to set mine up.

Personally Given the choice i would have preferred Male Viera. However in a hypothetical situation where i did not know either were being added, i would prefer they added 1 full race over 2 half races.

That said Hrothgar don't appeal to me, so on a preference between the two I would go with Male Viera.

Hrothgar, especially if they were closer to Byakko in terms of their design. I like cats but Miqo'te are too short for my personal tastes.

Furthermore, they provide something new compared to Viera men - namely a bestial race. Xaela and Raen come close, though only in regards to the men and they too lack a muscle slider despite it making sense for them to have one given their lifestyle.

I want to see Viera men added to the game, though many of the requests for them to be added have soured my opinion of the race as it is clear that many aren't asking for them to be the fierce forest protectors they are described as being but Miqo'te with bunny ears.

Hrothgar.

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As much as I love Viera after seeing the constant droning complaints and whinging from everyone I honestly wish they had just implemented Hrothgar and told us Viera might show up in 6.0.

People keep acting like the company personally walked in gave them two middle fingers then took a dren on their favorite chair. I'm frankly more appalled by the playerbase at this point than the company.

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

... then took a dren on their favorite chair.

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What the frel are you on about?

Male Viera.
I, for one, would not like to see Eorzea fall under influence of the beastmen. When Ilsabard sends its people, they're not sending their best.
We need to build a wall and make Garlemald pay for it.

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Originally Posted by Corue

We need to build a wall and make Garlemald pay for it.

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But, there already is a wall, and Garlemald did pay for it.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

But, there already is a wall, and Garlemald did pay for it.

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Ok.. then.. we'll tear and down! And we'll pay for it!

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Originally Posted by Anvaire

Given the choice i would have preferred Male Viera. However in a hypothetical situation where i did not know either were being added, i would prefer they added 1 full race over 2 half races.

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This mirrors my opinion. Just add the whole race or don't bother. Viera are preferable to Hrothgar.

Hrothgar. Everything I've seen of them thus far is just freaking cool. They are the first playable Beast like race that isn't just a human with animal ears & tail.

Definitely Hrothgar. I like how they look. The aesthetics remind me of Leo from Warzard/Red Earth. I'm glad SE decided to create this race instead of including male Viera.

I dont mind we getting Female Viera and Male Hrothgar this expansion. Probably next expansion we will get the other genders. Just please be patient and let this subject die.
Yoshida and devs has pretty clearly shown they do listen to people, but cannot get everything we want all at once.
I know that making a new 3D model takes a long time, I have had one SFM model made of my own highlander and that took about 2 months and 700$ to make by a team of 3 people.

I would love to see the people complaining saying that the devs took the "easy" way out blaming time constraints to work anywhere as much and hard as im sure the developers do. I only work 8 hour days, 5 days a week with tyrefitting and car detailing and I am beat after a hard days work. And Ive heard japanese work 12-14hour days, 7 days a week.

So again, yeah sure it does suck they could not get to please everyone. Just please stop making threads about this. They already know, and this pretty much will pester them like kids in the backseat on a long trip - Are We There Yet Are We There Yet Are We There Yet Are We There Yet Are We There Yet?

Hrothgar.
I'd also rather have female Hrothgar than Viera of either gender, if it came to that.

Switching to Hrothgar day 1.

interestingly, the thread i posted on the japanese forums was deleted. however i still have the poll. out of 89 votes, 75% preferred hrothgar and 25% preferred male viera. one the posts i saw in the thread, they wondered why they were adding races from ff10 and ff12.

They weren't even going to do Viera at all, as stated in a number of interviews, it was only late into development and after they settled on Hrothgar that they decided to do female Viera.

I'd rather have had female Hrothgar over female Viera.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

They weren't even going to do Viera at all, as stated in a number of interviews, it was only late into development and after they settled on Hrothgar that they decided to do female Viera.

I'd rather have had female Hrothgar over female Viera.

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I want to play as male viera, but I think they should have gone full hrotgar. I'd rather have a full race that adds lots to the game than two unfinished races that you can't even choose their genders from to begin with. I hope we will see female hrotgar and male viera added in the future ^^

I would have personally preferred one full race. I wouldn't have cared much if it was viera or hrothgar, either way fine with me.

Another thought, what if they had just made male viera beastly. They never appeared they could do w/e with them, they already have male viera living in isolation them being more beastly could factor into that isolation.

I'm down with the Hrothgar now that the decision has been made.

As much as I've wanted the Viera, and despite the fact I will still fantasia to one, the models they've been showing have looked a wee bit bland to me (especially that PLD). This could just be a styling prefernce (I DID really like that Dancer Viera..), so we'll see when the benchmark comes out :)

The Hrothgar are bringing something completely new to the game as far as race design goes, and I think that's pretty spiffy :X.

Count me down as someone who thinks they should've implemented both male and female hrothgar rather than viera, even though viera is my preferred aesthetic and I'll likely never switch to a hrothgar even on an alt. The hrothgar bring a completely new aesthetic to the table - but the way they've done it, you can only go beastly if you want to play a dude.

I'm hoping part of the reason for the decision was because introducing one full race would've meant closing the door on the other, and this way they get both of them in the game and leave a foothold for adding the other genders if time/resources/finances allow - whereas if they'd chosen just one it might've been next to impossible to get the other later.

I'm going to say both, but if it came down to only picking one full race I'd have to say Hrothgar (even though I love Viera). Hrothgar is so much different than any other current race and is going to add something new instead of more of the same. I feel like we will get the other halves of both races in due time and am glad for what we are getting. Male Viera would be cool because "yay more pretty boys" but Hrothgar fills a space in the races that we haven't seen yet and I'm very excited it is coming. I do wish the bodies were more similar to the Ronso from X and less Conan the Barbarian, but it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

Neither if it meant more customization for our current races.

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But if I had to pick one, I’d say the Hrothgar.

Makes me happy that hrothgar are in the lead currently.

Glad people can see that this is a race that this game desperately needs. Viera offer nothing unique at all and are just a reskin of what every race besides Hrothgar already are-a human with one weird thing about them.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Makes me happy that hrothgar are in the lead currently.

Glad people can see that this is a race that this game desperately needs. Viera offer nothing unique at all and are just a reskin of what every race besides Hrothgar already are-a human with one weird thing about them.

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I think that honestly they should have gone female hrotgar over female viera, and then perhaps added a full viera race in maybe 6.0

I picked lioness out of personal preference, not because I believe its what the game "needs". I would have been fine with either with both genders than one gender 2 races if Im going for what I thought what would be better for everyone.