My New Neighbors

Least with this neighbor.. you might actually have a chance of seeing and talking to

This is true ^^

Yes, hello! I am the owner of the house you are so interested in. I bought it on Friday and was gonna decorate it with my friends if I didn't manage to get myself a personal. Seeing how I did and wanted a better spot, I simply vacated the plot and relocated. I did not charge myself too much tho. (Except the relocation fee and stuff.) Don't worry, since you are so concerned about the the condition of my plot, I do plan on putting even more trees down. Since that was your main issue, was it not?

Also I would like to thank you for shouting in /shout about how the FC sucked and other stuff, just because we had yet to decorate the garden. Good way to handle any problem.

Well this thread just got interesting

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My screenshots taken don't tell the same story, but I understand the need to come on here and attempt to do something? I was telling your friend I was happy someone who actually wanted a house got one and I was excited to see..I guess you around? But I suppose I really lit a fire under your butt didn't I xD

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Lets be honest, I only need to prove to you. So enjoy your gaming and I will enjoy mine!

ahh see what's going on. An alt and fake fc to secure a plot of your choosing which explains why you didn't do anything with it and why I never saw anyone. Sure Samies I'll see u around

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Originally Posted by PureSteel

ahh see what's going on. An alt and fake fc to secure a plot of your choosing which explains why you didn't do anything with it and why I never saw anyone.

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Honestly I think you need to end this thread.

There is no proof of their accusation of your in-game conduct but...this is just becoming too much like witch hunting here.

You can't just go around making all these accusations at other players and/or FCs when you have no evidence of anything.

To clarify this thread wasn't about yard decorations. It's an observation of the houses I've seen because it appears as though these aren't actually being used. And perhaps that's not true. Maybe they are being used for workshop only. But I've seen my fair share of ppl housing flipping for ridiculous prices or working the system to buy absurd numbers of houses. I feel for the players that have tried to get a house and haven't been about to. Until 2 weeks ago I was one of those people. And I still have friends waiting at relinquished plots with others fighting for one. So no I'm not picking on ppl that don't decorate their yards. I'm speaking to the above

If that was your intentions, maybe you should apologies to me after not only assuming, using /shout chat, trying to twist this situation but also, in the end seeing how I was not doing any of those things? Even going so far as to post my name.
Was it that I got the plot in front of your large FC house? Was that the plot you wanted? Because something must have rubbed you the wrong way seeing how it was empty for 3 days before you started posting about it.

I have screenshots...I would say that's pretty good evidence

Sorry, but evidence of what?

One of their characters owning it and then passing it to another (of their) character?

There's nothing wrong with that...

O you know your right. Screenshots are terrible evidence. I would advise anyone looking at one to not formulate any ideas. I realized that windows has special registry keys that actually modify the screenshot! So you can't read into the screenshots you can because they are all lies. After changing these keys, i took another screenshot of one of the same houses previously posted. And boy...was i missing the mark. So much more detail. I feel much more confident with these images now. I apologize for the fake truths i posted earlier.

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Nail on the head <3

Ahh the good ol, if you don't do things the way I expect you to then you must be doing something wrong and I am justified to slander you until you prove me wrong no matter what ill affects it may have towards you and your future game play, oh and do not expect an apology because what if!

:p

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

Being the owner of the large next to you, it does look a bit fishy... And I play a large amount of hours a day and have yet to see anyone in or even near the house other than to look at the "House flippers."

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At the same time though, playing Devil's Advocate, maybe they can't play the game right away. Or something came up they can't move anything/play the game. Or perhaps they just don't feel like decorating it for a while due to wasting all their gil on it. Too each their own. You don't know who owns it in the end. Sure it may look fishy, doesn't mean it is, and it doesnt always need to be "called out" in public (forums, shouts or otherwise). There were plots like that in 4.1 that honestly the owners just took weeks to decorate it. There was nothing fishy going on. Not everything is a conspiracy/house seller.

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Originally Posted by silverlunarfox

. There was nothing fishy going on. Not everything is a conspiracy/house seller.

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I'm not looking to argue, I just put my 2 cents in, I've seen even people in basically solo free companys decorate, this fc house with 0/3 online at all times has been up since the ward came up, even before I got my large. I understand when its a week or so but almost a full month and there's nothing going on, I see no point in making excuses for people. If the game is really so unimportant that they want to buy a house and -not- play or use it then why buy it, when there are people who will actually use it trying hard to get even a small.
Personally I just want something done with it, it's a great plot in a great location, but it's an eyesore right outside my house because it literally just an aetheryte and a stable stacked in front of the door. While I see it as kind of rude or just morally f***d, to keep houses from other people if you aren't going to actually do anything, I'm not the one who brought it up, just making note that others are also not happy with it.

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

I'm not looking to argue, I just put my 2 cents in, I've seen even people in basically solo free companys decorate, this fc house with 0/3 online at all times has been up since the ward came up, even before I got my large. I understand when its a week or so but almost a full month and there's nothing going on, I see no point in making excuses for people. If the game is really so unimportant that they want to buy a house and -not- play or use it then why buy it, when there are people who will actually use it trying hard to get even a small.

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true but they do have 45 days. ;) stuff does happen in real life that would cause a delay of that long of a time period. I know youre not looking to argue but the fact is the OP and others need to realize, not everything is fishy....

and if they dont log back in to go to it? at least its auto-demoed.

I'm not one to stay silent when i see something I feel like speaking to. I understand people may not agree or believe, and that's fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. But I've said it and i'm sticking to it. Though, I'm not going to lie, the amount of confidence in people not doing shady things is much larger than I expected. :eek:

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Originally Posted by PureSteel

I'm not one to stay silent when i see something I feel like speaking to. I understand people may not agree or believe, and that's fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. But I've said it and i'm sticking to it. Though, I'm not going to lie, the amount of confidence in people not doing shady things is much larger than I expected. :eek:

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I get that, but like my experience in my old shiro ward, not everything ends up being a shady act. :) but i can totally understand your feelings on the issue.

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

I'm not looking to argue, I just put my 2 cents in, I've seen even people in basically solo free companys decorate, this fc house with 0/3 online at all times has been up since the ward came up, even before I got my large. I understand when its a week or so but almost a full month and there's nothing going on, I see no point in making excuses for people. If the game is really so unimportant that they want to buy a house and -not- play or use it then why buy it, when there are people who will actually use it trying hard to get even a small.

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New wards were available Feb 6. Today is Feb 21. That's 2 weeks and 1 day. Hardly "almost a full month".

Also, the nonsense of this entire thread is why when I move/ buy a house I keep it locked until I'm done decorating it. I'll throw up an aether shard and some random stuff in the yard, usually coming back to actually decorate the yard within a week or two so that people will think my house is used and won't throw hissy fits. You have no idea what's going on in peoples' lives or even their game play. Give them a break. Best case scenerio, they'll decorate eventually. Worst case scenerio, it's someone who uses the house only for workshop stuff, you'll never see them, and you'll have a boring looking neighbor. Either way, it doesn't hurt you, so why throw a fit about it on the forums?

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Originally Posted by MizArai

New wards were available Feb 6. Today is Feb 21. That's 2 weeks and 1 day. Hardly "almost a full month".
Worst case scenerio, it's someone who uses the house only for workshop stuff, you'll never see them

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Sorry for not keeping track of the exact days, I shoulda known going for a rounded time frame would get me called out. xD
Once again, their house is RIGHT infront of mine, its a complete eyesore. If you want to defend them then fine, but tbh its not your house they're set up in front of, nor your rp that forces you to have to look at an eyesore of a yard everyday. And def not your fc and friends complaining about it as well as a large portion of your ward. I did note earlier I would be fine if they even just set something up, or even moved the 2 things in the yard to note "Hey, I heard a lot of people were upset that it looked like I might scalp some poor person trying to relocate to this plot."

There's no fit being thrown? Its thread started with humor in mind. Did you read the funny text? And then it went down the WOW I witnessed something and had screenshots of it. Then people got mad and then there were white knights and then I realized Windows takes untrue screenshots, so i tried to bring some humor back and seems the storm is simmering. And here we are ;)

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Originally Posted by PureSteel

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This one did kill me though, thank you! <3

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

This one did kill me though, thank you! <3

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HA! I'm glad xD Its just so crazy I had no idea windows was doing this for so long. People need more laughs in their lives. xD

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

Being the owner of the large next to you, it does look a bit fishy... And I play a large amount of hours a day and have yet to see anyone in or even near the house other than to look at the "House flippers."
If you planned on using it then use it, but for it to just sit and be unused with the items that auto switch over when it's relocated in the exact same position, don't be shocked when people get upset, it's like a slap in the face to the people actually fighting just for a home not the perfect plot.

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In this case though the person in question has explained that they do plan to get to it - "House flipping" occured only between their own characters (for whatever reason - case and point: they didnt do it to get money out of it but to probably own the plot on the character they wanted it on in the end). It has been cleared up that the owner of the house in question doesnt seem to have any fishy motive - to continue attacks at this point is rude and petty and depending on their nature probably worth a report (thats not so much directed towards you, Sunske, but rather the OP... who seems to turn this into a little witchhunt, even though the witch has been revealed just being a lady with a cat and a broom).

While I much understand the sentiment of being upset about people not doing all the neat stuff you would imagine for those houses with them, they are by no means obligated to do anything there. And by no means does that open them up for any kind of abuse, naming&shaming or being called out - they might enjoy housing in a different way than you do. For an FC, maybe its just the workshop and private chambers for those who want to decorate. A private home might only be used for the garden, because crossbreeding is something the owner enjoys, while decorating... not so much.
In a later post you mention that you kinda expect someone to put up their decoration within a month... honestly, seeing how house buying is a lot "now or never", someone might only be able to grab a plot but doesnt has the time for a while to decorate. For example: Normally I have exams during this time of the year, for about 4-6 weeks, I dont have to much time playing the game because I need to study. I left my private FC-chamber empty for 3 months, because I had no idea what I wanted to do with it - I knew I wanted something in there, just not what.
There are legit reasons someone is holding off on decoration. You dont have to like that.
But calling them out in the way the OP is doing here... seems unwarranted

I fully understand, and like I said I'm not really here to argue, I'm just throwing out what I've seen.
I will point out to you that simply because someone says they wont or aren't doing something doesn't mean it's the truth. But even so I do know stuff happens, this has been a whole debate in my fc for some time tbh. I just found it funny to see it as I was just scrolling through the fourms like "I KNOW THAT STABLE, THAT'S MY NEIGHBOR!"
I personally however don't really see how difficult it is/would be to take 2 minutes to simple move them so its not a stacked eyesore, that looks almost fishy. Especially after multiple people making comments about it. If rl issues stop you from playing the game almost completely why even invest in a house?
Just so it's clarified, I'm not speaking about the person who posted here in the fourms. The second screenshot just happens to be the house next to mine.

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

I personally however don't really see how difficult it is/would be to take 2 minutes to simple move them so its not a stacked eyesore, that looks almost fishy. Especially after multiple people making comments about it. If rl issues stop you from playing the game almost completely why even invest in a house?

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They do not need to please you with their house. At all. Seriously, if mutliple people would make comments about how they didnt liked what I did with my house/my garden I would turn it into the worst thing possible right away, just to piss them off.

They're not investing in the house to please you - or anyone else in the ward. You dont need to like that, but you do need to respect that its their house and their choice... publicly calling it an "eyesore" isnt really respecting that.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

It has been cleared up that the owner of the house in question doesnt seem to have any fishy motive - to continue attacks at this point is rude and petty and depending on their nature probably worth a report (thats not so much directed towards you, Sunske, but rather the OP... who seems to turn this into a little witchhunt

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First off I haven't said that person's name and I removed the screenshot with their info on it last night. I'm not on a witch hunt (i don't know why people keep using this word)
Secondly people lie and tell half trues
And lastly I can't stop people from chiming in and talking about the subject. They have a right to comment on it just as you did.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

They do not need to please you with their house. At all. Seriously, if mutliple people would make comments about how they didnt liked what I did with my house/my garden I would turn it into the worst thing possible right away, just to piss them off.

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Your missing the mark. This isn't about yard decorations

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Originally Posted by Vidu

They do not need to please you with their house. At all. Seriously, if mutliple people would make comments about how they didnt liked what I did with my house/my garden I would turn it into the worst thing possible right away, just to piss them off.

They're not investing in the house to please you - or anyone else in the ward. You dont need to like that, but you do need to respect that its their house and their choice... publicly calling it an "eyesore" isnt really respecting that.

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I don't expect them to please me, I expect them to even log in to use the house. The fc im speaking of is 0/3 AT ALL TIMES, not the person who posted defending their fc of 23+ people.. If they log in it's to stop demolition and that's it, and tbh if you buy a house just for that people are going to be upset. That's just wrong and selfish if you don't play, and if you think that is acceptable then obviously you're part of why the housing is an issue.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you, but I feel as though you misunderstood what I was referring to and simply attacked me assuming I just wanted decorations in their yard.

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Originally Posted by PureSteel

Your missing the mark. This isn't about yard decorations

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Originally Posted by PureSteel

So we finally got neighbors across the street from us. We were pretty excited! Day after day we waited for them to appear. We still have yet to meet our neighbors. Their house sits empty and locked with no effort put into it. I just think, well someone who really wanted a house would've decorated that yard and maybe i could've waved or had a conversation with them. But alas, I think this house was bought by house flippers, or people that don't appreciate having one.

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You can't have it both ways. Either it's about yard decorations like you said in your original post or it's not. The reason people keep coming back to it is because you said it.

edit: As other people have said, just because a house wasn't decorated yet doesn't mean the person doesn't "appreciate having one".

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Originally Posted by MizArai

You can't have it both ways. Either it's about yard decorations like you said in your original post or it's not. The reason people keep coming back to it is because you said it.

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Had you paid attention to the conversation before hand that was not about the people she was speaking about in the original post.. That had to do with a conversation between me and Vidu.
And yes you can have it both ways, a lot of the time people like my neighbors will have nothing set up and 0/3 online, yard decor is an easy way to see if its a legit fc or a fake one trying to sell it to someone looking for a better plot than the one they have.

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

Had you paid attention to the conversation before hand that was not about the people she was speaking about in the original post.. That had to do with a conversation between me and Vidu.
And yes you can have it both ways, a lot of the time people like my neighbors will have nothing set up and 0/3 online, yard decor is an easy way to see if its a legit fc or a fake one trying to sell it to someone looking for a better plot than the one they have.

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I've read the entire thread. Probably a couple times by now. OP claims stuff was in good fun, which it might have been until she posted names and such (which she later deleted after lots of backlash and finding out how wrong she was).

The problem is in her original post she basically says that since she hasn't seen her neighbors and they haven't decorated the yard they must either be "house flippers, or people that don't appreciate having one". Then she gets mad when people come back and talk about how she complained about the yard not being decorated. So yeah, I read it. And I stand by what I said. OP can't have it both ways. If you're saying it's about yard decorations in the original post, then it's about yard decorations. The thread doesn't magically change just because it doesn't fit your agenda anymore and you don't like being called out for being a not nice person.

As far as the 0/3 online FCs are concerned, it takes like 5-10 minutes to deal with airships. Are you really sitting there checking their FC status all day, every day to know that none of those people come online, ever, at all? Just because people don't play this game the way you want them to does not mean they're breaking rules or abusing the system. It could just mean they're following the advice of other people about starting their own FC to gain access to airship/ sub stuff. Get mad at SE for locking the stuff to FC only, not people who don't feel like decorating a house since they only want it to access content that can't be done anywhere else.

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Originally Posted by MizArai

Get mad at SE for locking the stuff to FC only, not people who don't feel like decorating a house since they only want it to access content that can't be done anywhere else.

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Why are you automatically assuming they're doing so for the fc content? This is what's confusing me... The location and size of the plot (since you get the same amount of airships) indicate more of a trying to resell the plot to someone looking to relocate, as it is one of the more sought after plots in the area. If I'm wrong I'm more than happy to apologize but until proven otherwise from what I and many others have seen this isn't an actual fc. This is happening alot on balmung atm seeing as people were shouting to get people to make fcs just to resell before they were released. I understand they aren't breaking rules, however unlike most of the player base I just cant morally pull the "It's not against the rules so its okay." card. And deff wont stand up for anyone without that person stating themselves what the plot is for.

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Originally Posted by Sunoske

I personally however don't really see how difficult it is/would be to take 2 minutes to simple move them so its not a stacked eyesore, that looks almost fishy. Especially after multiple people making comments about it.

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I personally do not see why they should do something they do not feel like doing simply because it is an eyesore to you or others. As I mentioned before I do not see the difference between some complaining about an empty plot verse those that complain about the house glamours. Expect one is attacked and the other is defended as choice. Where do people draw the line between the two.

So why is a players right to use a house glamour defended by players due to choice, but having a bare or littered yard not? Where does one draw the line, all the plots that my FC and I own are simply tools nothing more nothing less. Everyone plays this game for different reasons, instead of getting upset with players take it up with the developers and let your concerns be known.

Though at the core this thread has very little do with use but more so the lack of use. I get that but the thing is no where does it state a player has to actively use the house. For the longest time before being part of the FC I am currently in I owned a personal house and a private FC house and did nothing with them, it was not until I found out how much fun crafting could be that I started to explore the use of houses. Prior to that they were never used outside of changing the color of my bird or messing around with the striking dummy. I do not get it though if a player meets the requirements set by SE to purchase and maintain a plot what right does any player have to say well you are not using it so you should lose it. Worse off what right does any player have to make the assumption that they are flipping the house due to lack of use. Even if the FC in question is planning on using it as a means to profit off of relocation. If it is within the rules set by SE if they met the requirements to purchase said plot, and if they meet the requirements to maintain said plot what leg does anyone really have to stand on for how they use it.

SE housing system is not perfect, but from what I was told in the past the community was given a choice between instance and wards. The community picked wards so take the good with the bad.

Ultimately, people bought it, it's theirs, they can do whatever they want (or don't want) with it. Regardless of the reasoning for why they don't "deserve" it, it belongs to them. If they wanna leave it 100% empty and untouched, that's still within their right and literally does not give anyone else more "right" to the lot because they'll "appreciate it more" or something. It's such a common thing for people to come up with x reason why they deserve the house more than the next guy, or why y person doesn't deserve their house at all.

Also: OP was banned, it seems. She posted on reddit about it.

Hmmm interesting

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You rushed us into decorating the house since you were getting mad at us :( So we gave it our best shot with what we had in storage!

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Originally Posted by Drazi

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You rushed us into decorating the house since you were getting mad at us :( So we gave it our best shot with what we had in storage!

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It looks wonderful!