Dear SE, NOBODY asked for under wear changes, just race unlocking Hempen sets.

If only SE knew how much money I'd pay to wear Miqote or Au'ra gear on my Lalafell.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Enjoy the fantastic game this company has provided and stop being so ungrateful children.

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Ah the voice of maturity.

How about, enjoy the fantastic game this company has provided and keep providing feedback to the makers as to what you want to see in the game?

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

If only SE knew how much money I'd pay to wear Miqote or Au'ra gear on my Lalafell.

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Please do not give them cash shop ideas!!!!

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Originally Posted by Felis

But those are (1.0) underwears, and people want the devs to change them ^^

I don't know, but was in the question included what underwear was mean, or was just underwear mentioned?

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The english question said "hempen sets". Koji used the word "pantalettes" in the question, and Yoshi used the word "camise" in the second part of his response about wearing underwear over your underwear. The female hempen gear is called hempen camise/pantalettes in both english and japanese, so the language does make it seem like they are talking about the right thing.

This is why I have been disagreeing with people throwing Koji under the bus. Yoshi made it sound like they would have to make the camise into a body slot item, but that already happened when we went from 1.0 to 2.0, so maybe he's thinking the 1.0 gear became the naked appearance or something. If you're not one of us weirdos in these threads you might not know all the ins and outs of FFXIV's underpants.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Please do not give them cash shop ideas!!!!

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With Yoshi-P's comments on the "Empress of the Mogstation" I worry far less about this than I used to. >.>

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Originally Posted by Automedius

Nobody asked for under wear garment changes when you remove a piece of gear on Torso/Bottoms/Feet.

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Well, not for torso or bottoms anyway. For feet, on the other hand, it has been requested (but that's a different topic than the hempen sets).

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Originally Posted by Felis

But those are (1.0) underwears

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"were" =/= "are".
These are not underwear. They are regular gear items whose designs (most of them anyway) were based on something else which had formerly (in a game that no longer exists) been classified with underwear. But in this game they are not. It's mistakenly calling them underwear that led to the confusion this thread is about. That's why Yoshi mistook what it was that was being requested and thought it involved a feature change rather than just an item change.

(As for the designs, I suppose a few of them might work as underwear, but that's not the first impression you'd get from looking at them, and it doesn't fit at all for some. For example, the elezen Hempen Camise looks more like the upper half of a formal evening gown if you pair it with a skirt rather than the pantalettes. And the female Auri set is just casual summer wear. Neither are something you'd wear under other clothes.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

(As for the designs, I suppose a few of them might work as underwear, but that's not the first impression you'd get from looking at them, and it doesn't fit at all for some. For example, the elezen Hempen Camise looks more like the upper half of a formal evening gown if you pair it with a skirt rather than the pantalettes. And the female Auri set is just casual summer wear. Neither are something you'd wear under other clothes.)

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Indeed and none are inherently limited to one race or another...

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Originally Posted by Ferth

1.0 actually had two undergarment slots. They were removed going in to 2.0 and really they didn't ever do much. There was a (very slight) upgraded set of undergarments people could wear in the mid 20s but they didn't look any different.

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Different colors though! But yeah, the biggest hassle I remember from under ware in those days was it fell in with normal gear degradation...It was a wee bit embarrassing asking others to repair your under ware >_>

My question is, if it was a translation issue, who translated it?
I can't imagine any of the Community Reps on here or Koji Fox not knowing what we meant... :-B

. . . Is this really a thing? Of all the stuff people could want out of the game, the type of underwear your character can wear is important? :O

I thought it was supposed to be race/lore specific. I know, like, all of 2 people in game probably care about the cultures developed, but it's kind of a cool idea. Why not just request more lingerie options? Probably get nicer stuff that way.

I'm teasing tbh, I know how important glamour is to some people (the True End Game, amiright?), but really, with all the really neat requests I see out there, this is probably one of the more superficial ones I've seen. Why not more character options? Or a more in depth dye menu? Or (le gasp) some decent midcore content??? :O

Naw, panties more important.

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Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm

Why not more character options? Or a more in depth dye menu? Or (le gasp) some decent midcore content??? :O

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It's not like it's one or the other. I want more customization options too. That was also a question at fanfest and it got shot down by the same old character data budget excuse that detaching aura faces from horns got back when aura were first added.

There probably isn't a technical reason they couldn't make the hempen set available, though.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

1.0 actually had two undergarment slots. They were removed going in to 2.0 and really they didn't ever do much. There was a (very slight) upgraded set of undergarments people could wear in the mid 20s but they didn't look any different.

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It allowed to wear different underwears (example the hempen set or bikini) under the clothes.
In ARR this can be usefull if you wear some mini skirts that show the underpants (like the female Miqo'te RSE)

the hype for panties!

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

It's not like it's one or the other. I want more customization options too. That was also a question at fanfest and it got shot down by the same old character data budget excuse that detaching aura faces from horns got back when aura were first added.

There probably isn't a technical reason they couldn't make the hempen set available, though.

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I think technical is the very reason they haven't done it yet. I mean, sure it might only take 2 days to get all the code written to add the new sets (because they would have to be new sets. It can't just be hempen set since it's programmed to change with the race. Unless we wanted even MORE programming mumbo-jumbo in which you can select which style of hempen you want displayed on your character lol), but I don't know crap about code, and I doubt a lot of people here have more than the very basic understanding of it. It might take 2 weeks or more to slot that sort of thing in for all we know.

ANYWAY, point is: priorities. They will probably never prioritize underwear over actual gear sets, or the millions of other things that people request that actually effect gameplay. They don't really have a lot of man power compared to a lot of game companies, so it really boils down to where their resources are best spent.

Also it bothers me to see people all over here insinuating that the only reason it hasn't happened is because they're too lazy to bother, or something. I mean, the devs don't always give us what we want, but they do work hard. Just because it's on stuff that someone personally doesn't care about doesn't mean they're just sitting around doing nothing. :/

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Originally Posted by Automedius

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Uh, here, have this snowflake sticker.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be so sarcastic, but you were kind of asking for it lol. Everyone else in the game is paying a sub too. And yes, lots of them are also paying full amount as you. They also all have their own wants and requests, some match up with yours. Lots don't. The sooner you acknowledge that the easier it'll be.

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Originally Posted by Adire

You make it sound as if playing the game is a one sided pact in our favor and the game exists as charity for us.

You seem to have forgotten that we pay monthly to play this game, and as a result, have every right to make requests and have complaints about it.

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Couldn't like this enough that's what forums are for the devs read this for feedback just look at the jump potion thread.Also are we twinsies I had to take a double look o.o.

I wish they would bring back the undershirt and underwear slots from 1.0. That was actually a good thing. I think my Au Ra gets tried of always wearing the same undergarments.

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Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm

Uh, here, have this snowflake sticker.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be so sarcastic, but you were kind of asking for it lol. Everyone else in the game is paying a sub too. And yes, lots of them are also paying full amount as you. They also all have their own wants and requests, some match up with yours. Lots don't. The sooner you acknowledge that the easier it'll be.

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Did I, or did I not just acknowledge everyone who pays a sub in "2?" I apologize if I came off that way, but I assure you that's not the case. There was no need for that sarcasm.

I would love to use the Hyur hempen set for my Miqo'te
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...71802435fa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pqt1VeU.jpg
^^^These are what everyone wants SE, please let us have them^^^

Really hoping they actually get to understand what we meant someday not too far away in the future
I still really want wear that male Hyur tank top on my Lalas and the female Elezen top on on Au Ra :(

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Originally Posted by Awful

Couldn't like this enough that's what forums are for the devs read this for feedback just look at the jump potion thread.Also are we twinsies I had to take a double look o.o.

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Where have you been all my life <3

Square Enix, please look at this thread before you jump the gun and actually start working on under wear garments. You'll be wasting your time with it when you could be working on what we actually want.

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Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm

. . . Is this really a thing?

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Apparently...

I had to google this to find what what the hell people were even talking about. How much time are you guys spending in your underwear?

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Originally Posted by Medicine

Wow... I forgot about that, SE really are awful listeners aren't they? XD

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Listening to someone doesn't mean you have to carry it out. Something people forget.

They have probably decided that they want them to stay unique to the races rather than have then available to all races.

There was an issue early on in FFXI and during Treasures of Aht Urgahn expansion during a fan festival players made numerous inquiries about certain equipment items referring to them by name. Every time it was brought up developers scratched their heads finally one asked an interviewer asking about it if he knew the items ID code, at that point the community had a huge D'oh moment, the items in game are localized. They are given names in our language the developers do not know what those names are, the fact that our dev's are players does not help the issue as the items are not the same in their language unless you walk up to Yoshi and point at what you are talking about he would never know.

Once we knew to give them ID Numbers all kinds of stuff became available, not to mention we got gear that looked better as they figured out what kind of things we liked to dress up in. Suggestion, to them the Hempen and RSE sets are Alternate underwear, or base gear, that is what it translates to, find out what the items code is and say this this here we want this!!!

This was not the onliest question Yoshida was off topic.

There was also the question, why regular instances and ex primals are getting more and more easy. Yoshida was just talking about the raid. But this was noit the question.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

This was not the onliest question Yoshida was off topic.

There was also the question, why regular instances and ex primals are getting more and more easy. Yoshida was just talking about the raid. But this was noit the question.

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Your post is irrelevant to the thread, obvious troll is obvious.

That's 6 sets of gear they have to tweak 5 times each. This is a dev team that struggles to make two headpieces (Bunny Crown) available to all genders in a timely fashion.
If we want to be paranoid about it, they have probably slowly started working on it, I'm sure they'll announce in next liveletter they plan to add it in 4.0 4.1

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Originally Posted by Drakkaelus

Apparently...

I had to google this to find what what the hell people were even talking about. How much time are you guys spending in your underwear?

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They don't look like just underwear though. It's hard to find examples of all the males, but here's miqo'te and elezen.

http://i.imgur.com/RKkPMlX.jpg

Miqo'te get a sort of crop top (for lack of a better word) and elezen get sleeves. Hyur midlander get a tank top. All three may be "underwear" but could easily be put with other types of gear that adapt it to being more like outerwear.

Maybe I'm incredibly stupid but how is it underwear if I can wear it as a top?

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Originally Posted by Automedius

All I know is this, to people who are arguing on here:

1: I pay close to around $200 on this game. It's for owning 8 retainers, and for 180 days of subscription. I do it, because my girlfriend and I take joy in controlling 100% of our server's markets for end-game gear/tools/weapons.

2: After paying so much, (my girlfriend pays the same thing by the way) you'd think the game developers would appreciate not only me, but the rest of you who pay subscriptions that keep their jobs alive.

3: I dunno about some of you, but if I'm paying for an online game, you best believe I will speak out when I see bugs/errors, or if I see things that can be improved.

4: If you enjoy "taking it from the rear" while, by the way, you are paying for this, then that's all you, I guess. Though people like me aren't, so get over it.

We want hempen sets to be race unlocked, and they clearly read these forums. So we will make sure it happens.

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I have three Legacy accounts, a full priced fourth account and level 60 jobs with multiple characters on each account. I also have my name in the credits aswell as my brothers (irl names) and one of an alt character. I like it locked, should i get preferential treatment?

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Originally Posted by Automedius

Did I, or did I not just acknowledge everyone who pays a sub in "2?" I apologize if I came off that way, but I assure you that's not the case. There was no need for that sarcasm.

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Yes, but in the same post, you also imply that people who *don't* want this feature are willingly "taking it from the rear". Makes your post less relatable and more jabby more than anything.

Not that I don't mind this feature. I've long wanted the male highlander bondage ropes for my Roegadyn main.

I'm going to delete that post since so many people are getting triggered over something I said in "2" when I clearly counter argued that in the same increment. Not everyone pays attention, I guess.

I'll forgive them for not understanding, because the hempen sets are ports from 1.0 and thus easily forgotten due to how many years old they are.
But it would be very nice to know that they have understood the true question, and I dare to hope for a response for it.

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Originally Posted by Medicine

Wow... I forgot about that, SE really are awful listeners aren't they? XD

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No they just listen more to the Japanese gamers more since Japan is there home country its the main reason why the dev team reply to their threads.

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Originally Posted by Parisstilton

Maybe I'm incredibly stupid but how is it underwear if I can wear it as a top?

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In 1.0 it was worn under the body and pants equip

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2yugfnr.jpg
http://oi63.tinypic.com/20h687l.jpg

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Originally Posted by Automedius

Since I don't see anyone making a topic about this to bring awareness to the devs, then I'll do so.

Devs, the title really speaks for itself. Nobody asked for under wear garment changes when you remove a piece of gear on Torso/Bottoms/Feet. We asked, for Hempen sets to be race unlocked for all races to wear.

For example,

1. A Miqote female to be able to wear Hyur Highlander female's Hempen set
2. A Hyur Midlander female able to wear an AuRa's Hempen set.
3. See the pattern?

That is all. There is *no way* you could possibly screw this one up.

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The hempen set is /classified/ as underwear. That's what he was talking about having to switch the slots. When you wear the hempen set in 1.0 it changed what your underwear looked like and that has not changed. When you wear the hempen set it looks like it takes a slot but essentially just changes what your underwear looks like.

See the post above mine for the 1.0 thing...

Yoshi knows what question was asked. The Dev team may have already even discussed it prior to fanfest as there is Mod responses on the main Hempen Set thread.

So yes, to make the hempen sets available to everyone they do have to change how they work with the underwear slot since its connected to the base characters race and the default underwear.

I can understand why you're confused about his answer OP.

Where does it say that SE will cater to every cry of the people (which they do a lot of btw, not always for the best)? I guess this isn't a productive post, but i get on here and all i see is crying everywhere, and i see people getting what they actually wanted and then proceed to cry about something else. If you want something bad enough then go change your race, or play another game. How can they screw something up that they did not have to do in the first place?

I would prefer if they used that time to add new glamour or new hempen.

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Originally Posted by TThibi

There was an issue early on in FFXI and during Treasures of Aht Urgahn expansion during a fan festival players made numerous inquiries about certain equipment items referring to them by name. Every time it was brought up developers scratched their heads finally one asked an interviewer asking about it if he knew the items ID code, at that point the community had a huge D'oh moment, the items in game are localized. They are given names in our language the developers do not know what those names are, the fact that our dev's are players does not help the issue as the items are not the same in their language unless you walk up to Yoshi and point at what you are talking about he would never know.

Once we knew to give them ID Numbers all kinds of stuff became available, not to mention we got gear that looked better as they figured out what kind of things we liked to dress up in. Suggestion, to them the Hempen and RSE sets are Alternate underwear, or base gear, that is what it translates to, find out what the items code is and say this this here we want this!!!

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Like I said earlier I don't think that's the case here. The items in Japanese are パンタレット and カミーズ, which is pantalettes and camise transliterated into katakana. You can listen to the question and hear Koji and Yoshi say both of those words.

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

The hempen set is /classified/ as underwear. That's what he was talking about having to switch the slots. When you wear the hempen set in 1.0 it changed what your underwear looked like and that has not changed. When you wear the hempen set it looks like it takes a slot but essentially just changes what your underwear looks like.

See the post above mine for the 1.0 thing...

Yoshi knows what question was asked. The Dev team may have already even discussed it prior to fanfest as there is Mod responses on the main Hempen Set thread.

So yes, to make the hempen sets available to everyone they do have to change how they work with the underwear slot since its connected to the base characters race and the default underwear.

I can understand why you're confused about his answer OP.

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The hempen items don't work differently than any other gear. When 1.0 ended they were converted to the regular body and legs slots. There is no underwear slot or underwear gear in ARR. It does not change your default underwear, your entire torso and arms are removed and replaced by the model for the gear.

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Originally Posted by BarbaricImpact

Where does it say that SE will cater to every cry of the people (which they do a lot of btw, not always for the best)? I guess this isn't a productive post, but i get on here and all i see is crying everywhere, and i see people getting what they actually wanted and then proceed to cry about something else. If you want something bad enough then go change your race, or play another game. How can they screw something up that they did not have to do in the first place?

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K. So by your logic, you're crying about something you have no control over, which is other people crying.... Hypocrisy at its finest, amazing!