\o\ Finding your Sweet Lover (Or Nightmare) /o/

Dude..if PF, the forums and everything else cant get you a partner.

Then i dont think such an ingame sistem would help you. And thats the actual point of this. maybe 50% of that thread's replyes are spams, because people are simply not as interested in meeting randoms to marry on this game as you might think. i for one only browsed that thread for the lols.

BTW, cat females or any kind of female realy, is bound to have an easy time finding a mariage partner on any mmo that has such sistem.

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Dude..if PF, the forums and everything else cant get you a partner.

Then i dont think such an ingame sistem would help you. And thats the actual point of this.

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You shouldn't Assume things. Because in general you're just making an (Ass) out of (u) and (me).

By all means if you don't like the system fine. But if you can't handle someone giving you a stern response after you've given one. Were not gonna get anywhere if you can't stick with the facts.


We need to get past already that this thread isn't intended for me to find a partner. (It's not even any of yalls business in the first place, hence I don't say anything about it smh)


I'm not gonna repeat myself. You can read my opening post. I know you can.

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You shouldn't Assume things. Because in general you're just making an (Ass) out of (u) and (me).

By all means if you don't like the system fine. But if you can't handle someone giving you a stern response after you've given one. Were not gonna get anywhere if you can't stick with the facts.

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Sorry, didnt mean to sound rude..i tryed edditing that before you saw it, but with no sucess it seems XD

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\o\ If you can convince me how a match making system being added to the game will hinder your game play. Please. I'm all ears. /o/

Being revolted and disgusted is not a reason enough.

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It wont hinder my gameplay, I just think it defeats the purpose of the EB-system. Its not supposed to be "just another thing you queue up for in DF".

They added marriage because people requested it as something they'd like to do with a friend, or even their real life partner (or probably for extended rp-purpose, dont know). Turning this into a dating-app ... nah, not interested.
But I guess by now I shouldnt be surprised anymore that people want the game to do everything for them - including finding a partner...

Oh and: dont add titles and achievements to it, please - This should be a quest you do for the quest itself or for each other... not for a shiny new title. Getting married should be reward enough itself. (...even though - thinking about achievements like "get married to three different people" and "get married to something else but a catgirl" is making me giggle right now)

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It wont hinder my gameplay, I just think it defeats the purpose of the EB-system.

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In what way and form would the EB system be defeated? This is just an alternative step towards the EB system. Could you provide some clarification please so I can understand where you're coming from?

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They added marriage because people requested it as something they'd like to do with a friend, or even their real life partner (or probably for extended rp-purpose, dont know).

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What do you know then? I'm confused when you said that last bit. Unless there is a conflict internally in how you would feel about such a system.

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This is all you should need. And character gender.

Gender? Why? It's a video game.
Age? Why? It's a video game.

There should be no etc. Character race, time-zone and gender should be all you need. This game is not a dating website. The marriage thread was not created to be a dating thread. The OP says that in her first posts. This is a video game and the thread's popularity doesn't mean "Players want to date!". No it means players want to EB.

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Well the reason I posted this in general instead of a forum specific to a server is because not everyone looks at the server specific forums. But I did assume people would at least see if they can get along and spend some time together before going through with the marriage. I feel the marriage is more of a roleplay thing between you and someone who you would be spending most of the time playing together with but a lot of people like <name> seem to feel this is more 'serious' and should involve real life for whatever reason.

Let's just have fun and not take a game so seriously.

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There should be no such thing as cat fishing unless people are taking the marriage way too seriously.

There should be no "hookup" system. More like a "EB n' Go" system. Just get your items and be on your way. Any relationship after that should be treated as a bonus. The video game was not made to encourage true dating. Dating sites are for that

i think op want a system like DF for "potential" EB. you filled a profil and what you're looking for and "EB Finder" give you a list of available players.

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i think op want a system like DF for "potential" EB. you filled a profil and what you're looking for and "EB Finder" give you a list of available players.

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Yeah and we have a PF, that should be enough, shouldnt it?
I mean - do we really need ANOTHER system for something minor like EB? a system that most of us might need once or not at all? why waste ressources on that?

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We could debate about this all day, but I would like to clarify that I am not uncomfortable with your idea, and I say this as someone who has found their partner with the marriage thread. I am just stating that if someone really wanted a partner, what is stopping them from posting? There's no shame in posting because it's service that is in high demand, and it isn't like anyone is going to go after them with a pitchfork unless they're up to some suspicious things. You don't even have to post on the thread. You can lurk and if someone catches your eye, send them Moogle Mail or /tell. If anything, I've seen more support than negative things from the thread.

I just think there's a lot of unnecessary time and resources spent from SE's point of view for something players can basically do themselves. If this gets brought up to SE and they have manpower to create something like this, then go for it.

That being said, I'd also like to point out that players can filter out what they want on party finder, especially now with a lot more "clutter" from cross center.

TL;DR: if someone wants a partner that much, you may either A) leave it to time or B) just lurk/post on the thread.

Good luck with finding your partner o7

I don't think this will fly but I don't see the harm of it. As long as we can opt out.
Btw what did you do to some of these people to make them dislike you so? Citation please.

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I am just stating that if someone really wanted a partner, what is stopping them from posting? There's no shame in posting because it's service that is in high demand, and it isn't like anyone is going to go after them with a pitchfork unless they're up to some suspicious things.

You don't even have to post on the thread. You can lurk and if someone catches your eye, send them Moogle Mail or /tell. If anything, I've seen more support than negative things from the thread.

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In essence, you're saying everybody views the world, see's the world, and performs in it's splendors the same, exact way as you do. And when someone decides to do something different, they're branded Suspicious.

Unless I misunderstood what you're coming from, that is how I'm reading the statement you're presenting me. Contrary to what my argument said about everybody is different.

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This is all you should need. And character gender.

Gender? Why? It's a video game.
Age? Why? It's a video game.

There should be no etc. Character race, time-zone and gender should be all you need. This game is not a dating website. The marriage thread was not created to be a dating thread. The OP says that in her first posts. This is a video game and the thread's popularity doesn't mean "Players want to date!". No it means players want to EB.

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You can ignore the age part. That's just a random bit to entice those who do not like the idea. Such as yourself.

Tbh, Character race, time zone and gender should be fine. However don't you agree there should be a component that asks you this with a drop down box? "Gameplay: 1. "Forever Crafters!" "Let's do a dungeon run!" "We can Roleplay all day!" "I wan't to be friends." "Hardcore Raiding!" Etc. (Etc as I meant for it to mean whatever else of an idea you can think of. I do not literally mean an Etc. box to put in whatever you wan't).

Let me ask you this, if for whatever reason you wanted to use the Match making system, but you don't want an EB out of it. Wouldn't you want to be able to be matched up with someone who has the same desire as you? Or would you rather go through the headaches of being paired and splitting up more than necessary.





In all the system can be a mix of things, clearly the very few of you who decided to respond are getting the notions that this can be purely used for dating. (Given the rather blunt and short opening of my post) - Which is why, the idea shall grow no matter how negative the responses are.

As I said previously this is a system that can be used for fun. And it doesn't have to purely be an alternative step towards EB.





Truth to be told there is another thread lurking around the general discussion where players post to find a friend to play with.

See this >>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=Friend <<<<<<<<<<<

Why you may ask? Same reason as above, not everybody see's, live, and views the world as many of you do. And to ask someone to reform or assimilate into the culture you brought upon for others is out of the question.





In a gist, instead of such a system having to deal with EB, or having hook up status or anything of the sorts. Let's have it have a plethora of options rather it's looking for someone to raid with, craft, have adventures, RP, EB and so forth.


And I stress again, not everybody is interested in the way you'd want someone to make a friend. There are those who aren't interested in doing so with a group of friends, if so these players would being pushing towards the Free Company system. (As that's what it's for)

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Btw what did you do to some of these people to make them dislike you so? Citation please.

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That's their problem. Let's stay on topic.

Dear ladies,

I'm going to be your sweet, sweet nightmare.

Brynhildr,
Call me ♥
XOXOXO

In all seriousness, I dunno how I feel about something like that. On one hand, maybe I'll find somebody who likes [my character] for who [he] is. On the other hand, I just can't find it in me to commit to a relationship in the cyber world. I need to be able to see the person, it's got to be real for me.

Then again, I've gotten attached to people's characters before, and it really hurt seeing them get along well with that special someone else. I had to constantly remind myself that it was just a game player having fun.

Man, oh, man ><

*goes and listens to "Gotta Be Somebody" by Nickelback*

Can't we all just kill dragons and rescue Princesses? Maybe I'm old fashioned but I thought that's what games are for. Didn't realise it was supposed to be Grindr with graphics.

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Tbh I don't think it's up to SE, and shouldn't be up to SE to help people make friends with such a system when the game already has soooo many systems. Make A Friend/Marriage Megathreads are products of the community. They do their jobs just fine. We don't really need an in-game system. Because human interaction is not a system. That's up to the people. The Eternal Bonding is the system. Which is why I'd be okay with an Eternal Bonding Matchup system for people who want the items and go.

In my opinion if you are trying to *just* have friends a player's gender shouldn't matter. That's what the Friend Megathread did right. It's a video game.

As for your question, I wouldn't have a problem finding people who are interested in similar things. It's an MMO. Everyone has my main interest! Next step? Join and FC and talk to people. Pretty simple.

TL;DR - The Megathreads are products of community interaction. Why take that away? "Dont fix what isnt broken" they say. Just get involved.

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TL;DR - The Megathreads are products of community interaction. Why take that away? "Dont fix what isnt broken" they say. Just get involved.

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I have to disagree with the way you're wording things. Taking it away? This is simply making a greater convenience built upon the concept of those threads and the feedback on this one.

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I have to disagree with the way you're wording things. Taking it away? This is simply making a greater convenience built upon the concept of those threads and the feedback on this one.

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It could essentially take it away because there will now be an in-game system to do exactly what the people created on their own. Making their system useless. When things like that happen(official systems being created) the unofficial systems created by the people die out.

Here's an example..

Gilgamesh is the unofficial Raiding server. It was named and created by the community. If SE somehow made an official raiding server and it wasn't Gilgamesh, the people will leave for the new official server and the community created by the players would die.

Same thing with Balmung, the unofficial RP server. The people created all of that. That's a good thing.

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It could essentially take it away because there will now be an in-game system to do exactly what the people created on their own. Making their system useless. When things like that happen(official systems being created) the unofficial systems created by the people die out.

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Two things:

Threads like Marriage partner and Make a friend will always exists. Even in games were there is such a buddy system, players will post these thread irregardless. Does it mean having such a system is pointless? No. It's nice to see players search through different avenues to achieve their goals in a game. To say an automated system will take away this experience is a bit of an extreme, considering it's us the players choice as you've already stressed.




The second thing is this notion of "it's just a video game" is getting quite boring.

No, FFXIV is not just a video game. It's a M.M.O.R.P.G. And like any MMO, you will deal with people, see them, and play with them. You're bound to create a relationship with them one form or another, rather its asking to play with them tomorrow, always happy to see them online, to stalking them on the games social outlet via harassment, or talking crap about one another.



Keep the feedback rolling guys. /o/

To SE this IS just another video game though - and therefor I dont think they should interfere with friendly player interaction. They are a company, running an MMO, not a dating/find a friend service.

You may want to experience this game together with a (close) friend and thats understadeable, but it shouldnt be up to SE to (help you) find that person. The match making they "have" to do is to ensure that you can play their game - so DF, RF, PF - and get into your desired content.
EB isnt and shouldnt be a part of that. Adding a system like that and turning that quest into something else thats just on your queue-list doesnt seem like a great idea.
People will just do it because its another thing the game suggest them to do - but why SHOULD the game suggest that? Shoudlnt it rather be someting you choose to do because you want to?
I can also see problems with this match making - even if we're saying that age doesnt matter... we have to keep in mind that minors are playing this game too and that parents might be a little upset if their 13 year old daughter runs into a 25 year old guy who'd really like to ERP with his ingame wife now... I've never used any sort of dating app, but I would imagine they use some sort of "age-gate"? (At least I'd hope that...)
And while you could say that that can happen without the EB-Finder, you're certainly right - BUT! it wouldnt be that much of SEs responsibilty because it wasnt their system that matched them up.

Again: Even if this is more than a game to the community and they're making more than a game out of it, to SE/the devs this IS mainly a game, not a dating app (and I honestly dont see why that should change - just meeting someone by joining their FC/LS/PF party or saying "Hey, I really like your glamour, that looks cool!" is to much for you?)

I'm trying to be gentle here:

If you are having problems finding friends in this very social game to play with (on more than just a temporary basis since people come and go to the game) then maybe you need to consider a new FC or world transfer.

If you have tried that and it doesn't work it is unlikely that you will be able to work things out with a game provided match.

You might want to re-examine how you are approaching social interaction in the game and how it might come across to others because if your social interactions all fail it is likely you are coming across in a way you don't intend to.

Online interactions lack social queues that are easier to read/show irl and often we do not realize how others react to us unless they outright tell us.

If you expect to be able to form an irl relationship based on the game, well this happens sometimes but it is not something you can expect or force.

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Too late for that statement. You should see how the Mentor, FC, and housing system is being upgraded.


It may be a video game in the end.

Yet, you're still going to interact with players rather you like it or not. Unless your telling me everyone with this statement has that much of a cold heart when they see another soul behind the Computer screen online. Tsk tsk tsk

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Too late for that statement. You should see how the Mentor, FC, and housing system is being upgraded.


It may be a video game in the end.

Yet, you're still going to interact with players rather you like it or not. Unless your telling me everyone with this statement has that much of a cold heart when they see another soul behind the Computer screen online. Tsk tsk tsk

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Why would it be to late for that statment? SE is giving us the tools for player interaction, wether you make use of this tools or not is up to you. They're giving you the means to form "relationships" with other people, they dont have to give you the people for that too.
Do you expect your goverment to find you a wife/husband because they're providing a marriage service too?

There ARE means in this game to find like minded players - PF, the forums, maybe. Why would SE be required to help you find a friend?

And I frankly dont understand why you assume I'm cold hearted just because I dont think a game company should be running a dating services for all those lonely souls out there when they're main focus is, well, you guess: a video game that might include player interaction but doesnt require you to play it with your bff or partner for life.

(I also dont see neither the mentor nor the FC-system being upgraded - housing-system? I suppose you're talking about sharing your house with friends? Ofc people want to play with their friends and its good that SE is giving us the tools for that. They dont have to give us friends though.)

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Why would it be to late for that statment? SE is giving us the tools for player interaction, wether you make use of this tools or not is up to you. They're giving you the means to form "relationships" with other people, they dont have to give you the people for that too.

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You said the following as your opening statement:

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To SE this IS just another video game though - and therefor I dont think they should interfere with friendly player interaction.

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I'ma spell this is out:


http://i64.tinypic.com/ei2w5y.png



Diplomatic, temporary alliances, parties, and so forth.



For you to think a Relationship is just only about love and obtaining friends, you're sorely mistaken, its much more than that. Hence my previous statement on the opposite spectrum:

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You're bound to create a relationship with them one form or another, rather its asking to play with them tomorrow, always happy to see them online, to stalking them on the games social outlet via harassment, or talking crap about one another.

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By all means, try hard and convince me how this game doesn't push in the direction of adventuring with other players.

Honestly I think you're just nitpicking at what people are saying in some places specifically instead of their whole of the argument at this point. You're asking for reasons behind why this shouldn't be implemented; the community is giving you reasons -- you just don't want to process it. What more do you want other than simply it isn't a dating site/it's not necessary? Why do you think EB is optional in the first place? If you find your lover, good for you, but don't expect the game to cater to what a select few *really* want.

If more people agreed with you, please tell me why haven't more people jumped to your defense yet.

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By all means, try hard and convince me how this game doesn't push in the direction of adventuring with other players.

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I never said it doesnt. I said: We have enough tools to ensure we can play this game already. We have DF, RF, PF - all tools in place to find you other people to do content with.
Maybe I missunderstood you but you seem to be looking for something more than just playing this game here - you're looking for someone to play this game WITH you and I dont see how thats SEs buisness?

Why do they have to add ANOTHER system to help you find people to play with?


(and if you want to be nitpicking, how about we start with how you wanted to find a marriage-partner, mentioned how you want someone to stalk and harrass (great choice of words here!) and ended up talking about "big" changes in FC and mentor systems that never really happend?)

Cleftobismal i have seen you post in the Marriage thread about 30 times, reposting your application over and over again and getting ignored every single time. I'm staring to realise exactly why no one is responding to you.

I already get enough disappointment in real life. No point of bringing it here.


To be honest most people who play this game aren't really looking for what you're suggesting here. In fact most people are already partnered up anyway. If I want to try and find a date I can fire tinder or Okcupid for it. I mean, I can see why it seems like a good idea. People who match up in these games tend to have similar interests which I think is important in a romantic relationship. I know it's hard watching all of your friends matched up and going off into duties together. I do it every day, but I don't think this is the answer.

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I believe it will hurt the community made system.

You have to understand that SE adding some system isn't going to help anyone magically get some bond with someone friend or no. A friendship is not some thing that is asked for. It happens on its own accord.

A system like this won't help you make friends if the people don't want to be friends with you. Just isn't how it works.

Take the marriage thread for example.. That thread has one crucial flaw.. It only asks for marriage and that's it, it's not specific. That thread is borderline dating service. The people who use that thread to just JUST get married for the items and go are using the thread correctly. All the people asking for whatever more are using it in a way it isn't built for.

This is why the Friendship Thread was done correctly. Because the purpose was to make friends. Not boy/girlfriends, or husband's/wives.

Friend -> Best Friend -> Boy/Girlfriend -> Husband/Wife

Without those steps in order, you can't have a strong relationship. A system can create a marriage, because marriage is a system. It can't however, make a friendship.

This is why we don't need a matchup system. I'm not sure what you want Cleftobismal.. I assumed you wanted something romantic. If it's not that, and just want a friend, why not use aaaaalllll the tools SE gives you? Use the Friend Megathread.

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You may want to experience this game together with a (close) friend and thats understadeable, but it shouldnt be up to SE to (help you) find that person. The match making they "have" to do is to ensure that you can play their game - so DF, RF, PF - and get into your desired content.

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Again: Even if this is more than a game to the community and they're making more than a game out of it, to SE/the devs this IS mainly a game, not a dating app (and I honestly dont see why that should change - just meeting someone by joining their FC/LS/PF party or saying "Hey, I really like your glamour, that looks cool!" is to much for you?)

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Oh that's easy. Since it's mainly a game, this match system is completely optional and shouldn't have any affect on your game play if you chose not to do it.


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The match making they "have" to do is to ensure that you can play their game - so DF, RF, PF - and get into your desired content.

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Sure it is, that's why were going to meet a common ground, about your concern of this game being a dating app instead of well, a game. Make it optional like most things in the game. It doesn't have to be on the mainstream of things either.

Also SE has many times accommodate player interactions both directly and indirectly. This is a small bit from a few of their live producer letters.

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Q: There's a lot of unfriendliness between players who are matched together with the Duty Finder. What kind of countermeasures are you looking into for this?

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In addition to player requests for the idling camera, the development team also wants players to take more of those wonderful screenshots with their friends, so we have improved upon the group pose feature as well.

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We are also planning updates to the blacklist and friend list features; however, the friend list updates won't be available at the launch of Patch 3.5. We would like to add this in a future update. The player's World will now be displayed in the chat log, so even if players with the same name are in a party, you will be able to identify who is who.

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EB isnt and shouldnt be a part of that. Adding a system like that and turning that quest into something else thats just on your queue-list doesnt seem like a great idea.
People will just do it because its another thing the game suggest them to do - but why SHOULD the game suggest that? Shoudlnt it rather be someting you choose to do because you want to?

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Oh really? You'll like the system better if it's not a part of an EB quest line? Done. I never suggested that anyways. I did specifically say it's an "Alternative step" meaning not mandatory, a different path, route and etc.

Once again, you have nothing to worry about. It's not a should. It's optional.

You don't have to partake in this. Your way of life (or gameplay in this sense) is not going to be affected. There is no need to be afraid of it.

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I can also see problems with this match making - even if we're saying that age doesnt matter... we have to keep in mind that minors are playing this game too and that parents might be a little upset if their 13 year old daughter runs into a 25 year old guy who'd really like to ERP with his ingame wife now... I've never used any sort of dating app, but I would imagine they use some sort of "age-gate"? (At least I'd hope that...)
And while you could say that that can happen without the EB-Finder, you're certainly right - BUT! it wouldnt be that much of SEs responsibilty because it wasnt their system that matched them up.

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Simple, keep it light, keep it easy, and not overly suggestive. I mentioned earlier about a drop down feature.

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Tbh, Character race, time zone and gender should be fine. However don't you agree there should be a component that asks you this with a drop down box? "Gameplay: 1. "Forever Crafters!" "Let's do a dungeon run!" "We can Roleplay all day!" "I wan't to be friends." "Hardcore Raiding!"

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There are ways to make this age appropriate, such as not making it the focus of a dating tool. As I said before, the tool can instead be a way to find another adventurer to Duo-Play.

But thanks for bringing that up! It is something to consider /o/

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Why would it be to late for that statment? SE is giving us the tools for player interaction, wether you make use of this tools or not is up to you. They're giving you the means to form "relationships" with other people, they dont have to give you the people for that too.
Do you expect your goverment to find you a wife/husband because they're providing a marriage service too?

There ARE means in this game to find like minded players - PF, the forums, maybe. Why would SE be required to help you find a friend?

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I'm not sure where you keep getting the misconception that you have to do this. It's optional. You've already acknowledged this.

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(I also dont see neither the mentor . . . . (The rest you've already answered in this paragraph - Cleft)

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http://i65.tinypic.com/2d26kw6.png

See "The Novice Network has been adjusted as follows:" and Bellow.

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Honestly I think you're just nitpicking at what people are saying in some places specifically instead of their whole of the argument at this point.

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Done. If you think I've missed anything else go ahead and quote it and I'll gladly respond. :>

Be warned, asking me the same question without a rebuttal against the argument I answered to a previous poster is not gonna get you a response. I don't like to go in circles for those who can't keep up with a debate.

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If you find your lover, good for you, but don't expect the game to cater to what a select few *really* want.

If more people agreed with you, please tell me why haven't more people jumped to your defense yet.

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I'm so glad you are open enough with me to get that off your chest.


Certainly you didn't think I made this thread with the intention of it being over within a few days? If you aren't prepared to muster up the stamina to defend what you believe in and all your other opinions then it shouldn't be a surprise if this thread isn't going to be a pleasant experience for you.

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Originally Posted by Hibbsan

Cleftobismal i have seen you post in the Marriage thread about 30 times, reposting your application over and over again and getting ignored every single time. I'm staring to realise exactly why no one is responding to you.

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Irrelevant but I'll humor your hubris.


I've posted less than 16% of applications on the total posts that you claim to count one by one. Unless I misunderstood that you pulled the number 30 out of a hat.

(That's less than Five for convenience sake by the way. 16% of 30)


And each and every one of them I've got responses. Not that it's your business anyways. I just hope this piece of information puts your heart at ease. Now you have something to cite from instead of crapping it out. I've always viewed players like you and others that prefer to use baseless attacks like one's who Jump out of the frying pan, and into the fire. You're digging your own grave and credibility when you do this. It's your decision to stoop lower than the person you guys claim I am. It's ironic.

What we really need is just npc relationships and companions thats whats lacking their is already an option to be with other players. Would be better to have a better companion system.

The power of imagination never fails. For instance, I've got two great looking Roegadyn twin sisters for retainers. One of them is as sweet as candy, and the other one is sour. The sweet one is playful and likes to pick me up and tickle me, while the sour one likes to verbally abuse me and make me do things for her.

My relationship status is golden. \o/

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

I believe it will hurt the community made system.

You have to understand that SE adding some system isn't going to help anyone magically get some bond with someone friend or no. A friendship is not some thing that is asked for. It happens on its own accord.
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\o\ Finding your Sweet Lover (Or Nightmare) /o/

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Such is my title. I'm plenty aware systems like these don't form an immediate bond, let alone good ones.

That's not even how it works.


You need to get past that I'm already all for a match system not being entirely related about Eternal bonding, boyfriend, girlfriend. I already compromised for that bit to be a tiny portion of it, and for it to mostly well. Find an adventurer who has a common ground/goal as you to duo with.

That's all it is.

Finding.


The rest of your post is getting into values of how a relationship would form which as I said in my previous posts not everyone views the way any relationship works the way you do. That's a whole different debate and quite frankly this thread isn't about how it forms or how it should form.

Can we move on from this please? The match making system is not gonna be a Dating one. Period.

Okay, I took the liberty to look at your posts in the marriage thread - to sum it up for everyone else: its basically the word "Yaoi".

I'll repeat again, since you dotn respond to that: Why does this game need a "find a friend" or dating option when that isnt what this game is about?
Playing with other people and building a friend/relationship isnt the same, you know? And SE only has to take care of the former, not the later - they're running a GAME not a dating app.
And will all the strings that are attached to a date apping kind of thing (what about minors? what if the relationship doesnt work out? since it was their system putting them together, do they get a free transfer?) why should SE get into that kind of buisness? Just so you can find your male Au Ra Lover?

Also, even though I'm sure you'll just burn me and dont want to hear this, but my first impression of your "application" in the marriage thread was: "What a jerk - is he making fun about the gay or gaming community? Or both?" I would advice you to act a bit more respectful and in a way that can be taken serious - spamming "Yaoi. Yaoi. Yaoi" for a whole column doesnt do the trick, it just seems childish and not as if you mean any of that - with this attitude a matchmaking symstem wont help you either.
And now I'll get some chocolate and wait for you to tell me that I have no right to judge you :)

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I'll repeat again, since you dotn respond to that: Why does this game need a "find a friend" or dating option when that isnt what this game is about?
Playing with other people and building a friend/relationship isnt the same, you know? And SE only has to take care of the former, not the later - they're running a GAME not a dating app.

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This game isn't all about Golden Saucer.

The Feast.

Housing.

Getting Married isn't what this game is all about.

Heavensturn


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Valentiones Day<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Little Ladies Day

Hatching-Tide


Moonfire Faire

The Rising

All Saint's Wake

Starlight Celebration


Hunter's Moon

Breaking Brick MOuntains

Burgeoning Dread

Lightning Strikes

The Maidens Rhapsod

Yo-Kai Watch


. . . .


Shall I go on or would you please debate against these totally optional not part of the FFXIV theme you've seem to made for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Playing with other people and building a friend/relationship isnt the same, you know? And SE only has to take care of the former, not the later - they're running a GAME not a dating app.

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I am not repeating myself. Figure it out why I bolded that miss Detective. You go search my posts anyways to make me myself a subject of the debate. That should be raising some red flags in your head.


As for this:

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Also, even though I'm sure you'll just burn me and dont want to hear this, but my first impression of your "application" in the marriage thread was: "What a jerk - is he making fun about the gay or gaming community? Or both?" I would advice you to act a bit more respectful and in a way that can be taken serious - spamming "Yaoi. Yaoi. Yaoi" for a whole column doesnt do the trick, it just seems childish and not as if you mean any of that - with this attitude a matchmaking symstem wont help you either.
And now I'll get some chocolate and wait for you to tell me that I have no right to judge you

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What am I, your life line? You can talk crap about me all you wan't. I don't care. That's your own problem to deal with. Don't expect me to mediate or cure the self made rancor you've just created for yourself.

I don't care what you think about me, but if you wanna talk about respect, you need to respect this process of debating. And if you can't even handle that (As I'm reading your personal attacks, you can't) then stay out of this thread.


So that being said since you seem to be derailing yourself from the debate:


If you can't take the heat child, stay out of the kitchen.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Can we move on from this please? The match making system is not gonna be a Dating one. Period.

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Okay then. It's not for dating. It still does not change how relationships(I'm including friendships) go. I think you missed the idea. I don't think it's just my beliefs only <.<

I'm pretty sure any animal animal on earth(including us) can't just magically become friends with another.

You may think it's not the subject matter here but it matters.

Since we've deduced your system down to simply having an adventuring buddy, well... It's pretty simple really!

Just talk to someone. An FC? A LS? Random interaction with people in the world? Parties? Find a friend Megathread?

Find an adventurer to duo with? Make A Friend Megathread lol.

Can you change the title to "Finding your Sweet Adventure Buddy" to reflect the changes? And maybe even your original post? The place you ended up doesn't sound like where we were going.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

That's all it is.
Finding.
Can we move on from this please? The match making system is not gonna be a Dating one. Period.

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And why is a new system required here? Whats wrong with the PF?
Wouldnt it be like just another window - just one that less people look into?
What is wrong with all the social aspects the game is already offering the TOOLS for - LS, FC, static...
Why does SE create something new for a very personal level (face it, one-on-one is always going to be more personal - and from what you're saying thats what your looking for after all) that is not really their buisness...

I understand your desire to meet someone and maybe I'm old fashioned - but we already have all those toold at hand, no need for "blind-speed-dating" and friendship out of a queue...

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

I'm pretty sure any animal animal on earth(including us) can't just magically become friends with another.

You may think it's not the subject matter here but it matters.

Since we've deduced your system down to simply having an adventuring buddy, well... It's pretty simple really!

Just talk to someone. An FC? A LS? Random interaction with people in the world? Parties? Find a friend Megathread?

Find an adventurer to duo with? Make A Friend Megathread lol.

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Magical-Mal has used reverse Psychology!


It wasn't effective . . . .


On a serious note:

Find...


Find..

Finding....

Search..

Searching. . ..

As I said previously, so this will be the last time I'm saying this. That's not how these system work. It just makes it easier to find a potential play buddy. Even on those dating sites you abhorently abhor, they will tell you the site is to find a "Potential partner".

Po-

Ten -

Tial.


Nothing is immediate about these things. Nadaaaah.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

Just talk to someone. An FC? A LS? Random interaction with people in the world? Parties? Find a friend Megathread?

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Or how about the fact despite us having Link Shell's and Free companies, someone just had the idea to make a thread. Why not go a step further when the interest is clearly being shown? A.K.A Stahp trying to flip the script. I've already made this point previously along with a picture.

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Originally Posted by Newmanxeno

Can you change the title to "Finding your Sweet Adventure Buddy" to reflect the changes? And maybe even your original post? The place you ended up doesn't sound like where we were going.

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I need more feedback and information before I do such a thing. Until then you can read on through the posts. As you should be doing anyways, for someone may have already asked and has been answered.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

And why is a new system required here? Whats wrong with the PF?
Wouldnt it be like just another window - just one that less people look into?
What is wrong with all the social aspects the game is already offering the TOOLS for - LS, FC, static...
Why does SE create something new for a very personal level (face it, one-on-one is always going to be more personal - and from what you're saying thats what your looking for after all) that is not really their buisness...

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Tell it to the numbers of people on these threads. Tell it to the numbers.

Must I also repeat myself, it's optional. Not required. And I get what you're trying to say here but things like Eternal bond, Golden saucer, and so forth I've blatantly said before, aren't required to be in this game either.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Out of curiosity what would yall think of FFXIV having a match making system to pair up two partners to be potential EB lovers? [When I mean potential, you'll just receive a "hook up status" and if you get along you can advanced into "lovers" till you wish to finally EB]

Of course the matching would revolved around the questions answered and the preference listed (Time zone/Race/Age(?)/Etc).


Even odd ball questions such as:

"Ser Ayermic X Estinien or Sidurgu X Estinien or Ser Ayermic X Sidurgu" (Don't take this seriously. lawl)



I dunno. Seeing that NA is not the only forum board that has a Marriage Hook up thread with over 1million views. It may be worth the investment to put in something interesting. What do yall think? /o/

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You have a lot of catching up to do. Bwahahahahha

I did read through. You talked yourself out of the title and premise of your post. So why not make a new one?