Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

...

---

"I still believe SE will add viera to the game if the demand is high enough. I hope the people who want viera will speak up more, and like posts that are in favor of viera. If more people who want viera support it frequently, and there is a lot of us, the more likely it is SE will notice and take it into consideration. They have rejected the idea once, but it is not set in stone. For those of you who want viera like I do, keep up the support."

I support this.

For those saying they don't have the resources to do it, consider that they made the Au Ra - a brand new race never before seen - with less, and as a first time approach to an expansion. They're dropping PS3 support, overhauling jobs and cross class abilities, adding new jobs new skills, new zones, etc. . . It sounds to me like they're just fine on resources. And factor in the concepts for that race are already established, along with popular demand, and it's not hard to see the possibility being a strong one.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

~Yoshi P~

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/the-...n-sense/.91021

/thread

---

.... And look at how many of us don't like the design for Au Ra and still want Viera.

Yoshi-P is right, and the other concepts found in the "Stone and Steel" artbook reinforce that they were simply unable to, at the time, come up with a Viera inspired race that still hit what they wanted to add as they couldn't stray far from the design with the girls.

It really did come down to Auri men bringing a really fresh option verses bunny guys just being taller Miqo'te.

But, holy hell, did they drop the ball hard on Auri girls. They could've easily filled the gaps of savage and sexy but instead have the bodies and emotes of sweet, school girls.

The final product isn't bad by any means, but it's more of the same among feminine options.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I support this.

For those saying they don't have the resources to do it, consider that they made the Au Ra - a brand new race never before seen - with less, and as a first time approach to an expansion. They're dropping PS3 support, overhauling jobs and cross class abilities, adding new jobs new skills, new zones, etc. . . It sounds to me like they're just fine on resources. And factor in the concepts for that race are already established, along with popular demand, and it's not hard to see the possibility being a strong one.

---

Also, budget. SB has a reportedly $35mil budget, HW had $12mil.

They have the means.

I'm gonna say yea I really want to be a bunny girl. Yoshi pls :3

I really like the viera in the second picture. They're adorable. They look like their height would be in between lalafell and miqote, so the second shortest race in the game. Though I wouldn't mind having a viera of the first picture, the second picture really speaks to me.

As I've said in others thread regarding a new races. I don't mind us getting them, when it makes sense when we get them. Getting one going into 4.0 won't make for a good story. What's it going to be, yet another race/group of people fleeing their country?

I say wait till we venture further off Eorzea and into Garlemald or other continents before we introduce more races... at least it would make more sense to bump into some "newer" races then.

Still supporting this 100%, would love to see Viera added to the game (and I also support more character customization options because 12 know we're hurting bad for them o)-< )

If I had to pick one it would totally be the short cute one. Lalafells need some competition.

I rather a more "furry" new race. like Ronso or something like Skyrim's Khajiit or WoW's Pandarens.

So guys, if we got a viera race, which I hope we do, what do you think the race will be called in Eorzea? Would the name have some nature vibes to it, or something else?

No thanks.

Yes please! Let me turn myself into a bunny~

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Senn

So guys, if we got a viera race, which I hope we do, what do you think the race will be called in Eorzea? Would the name have some nature vibes to it, or something else?

---

Viernyaa maybe? Vie-ra? Vierenns? Idk. I just want mah bunnies.

http://i.imgur.com/36E2s.png

http://orig09.deviantart.net/ed0d/f/...h_by_lelia.jpg

http://orig05.deviantart.net/8a60/f/...ar-d3gbb3z.jpg http://pre14.deviantart.net/97e1/th/...14-d6schv9.jpg http://img15.deviantart.net/3975/i/2...viera_club.jpg

Oh, another viera thread.

Based on the pictures people link into these, it looks to me like folks mostly just want a miqo'te with an ear slider and the option to turn the ears upwards instead of sideways. Oh, and an on/off toggle for the tail too. I don't think that would take too much effort from the devs. The end result would be fairly lame, though. IMHO bunny-eared hyur / modded cats are too similar to what we already have in game.

So yeah, go ahead and add viera. But give them their own distinct features.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Squigley

Oh, another viera thread.

Based on the pictures people link into these, it looks to me like folks mostly just want a miqo'te with an ear slider and the option to turn the ears upwards instead of sideways. Oh, and an on/off toggle for the tail too. I don't think that would take too much effort from the devs. The end result would be fairly lame, though. IMHO bunny-eared hyur / modded cats are too similar to what we already have in game.

So yeah, go ahead and add viera. But give them their own distinct features.

---

Well me want viera keep their own animal part like hand and feet and their face difference i can see on ff xii. Miqote looks more cat to me compared to hyrur. So , viera will get same differences with faces.

Want keep viera feet .

Im sorry if people think viera are similar to other races . We have different opinions and i accept it. But i wish be a Viera because :

- Beautiful race
- im a Fran X Balthier fan
- Im viera fan
- Want change to viera

http://orig14.deviantart.net/3c64/f/...bf-d6bznxw.jpg

I'm really digging all the viera art. I really encourage people to post up more viera art since it's a great way to support it. Also, I'd like to hear how you guys think a viera race would integrate into eorzea. What do you think their lore would be?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Squigley

Oh, another viera thread.

Based on the pictures people link into these, it looks to me like folks mostly just want a miqo'te with an ear slider and the option to turn the ears upwards instead of sideways. Oh, and an on/off toggle for the tail too. I don't think that would take too much effort from the devs. The end result would be fairly lame, though. IMHO bunny-eared hyur / modded cats are too similar to what we already have in game

---

like this?
http://67.media.tumblr.com/8b9afdffe...t620ys_500.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lunaxia

"Viera thread - show your support."

---

How many threads about Viera are there? Why not show the support there instead of making a new topic?

I would say no only because it looks lazy and boring. Too similar to Miqote. You need something more inspired that looks more than human with an extra feature. Unfortunately, it's probably what the next race will be. Beastly races are a no go, because there are not too many people who like them, despite being a cooler option. If I would go for a lazy design like Viera, I would rather have winged humans than bunny eared humans. It's lazy, but cooler in the end. My opinion only, of course.

I did come up with a better idea, but I'll post it in the race thread if I can find it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

I would say no only because it looks lazy and boring. Too similar to Miqote. You need something more inspired that looks more than human with an extra feature. Unfortunately, it's probably what the next race will be. Beastly races are a no go, because there are not too many people who like them, despite being a cooler option. If I would go for a lazy design like Viera, I would rather have winged humans than bunny eared humans. It's lazy, but cooler in the end. My opinion only, of course.

I did come up with a better idea, but I'll post it in the race thread if I can find it.

---

A race is hard to get because must to be interessed by the majority of players and SE . I accept your opinion because we have all different opinions on viera and its normal . Wish you lucky on searching a race you would like have :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RosaLunaCelestia

Wish you lucky on searching a race you would like have :)

---

Burmecian.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130321024555

Let's not forget the Race needs to fit into the lore somehow.

From the SB trailer we see the desert, Burmecians pretty much live there (don't wanna spoil for those who don't know anything about Burmecian), i did a quick research bout Viera and they seem to live in the wood (what did i expect for rabbits).

Either way i doubt we're getting a new race.

Where is the "Thumbs down" icon?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RobbieH

Burmecian.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130321024555

---

Yeah, I don't think you have any point there!...

Burmecians come from Burmecia which is nothing but the city of eternal rain in Final Fantasy IX, eternal rain cannot exist in the desert easily and what you may refer to as Burmecians living in the desert are no more than the ones that fled their country because of war!...

Freya and her people could well find a home in Eureka but honestly, "Burmecians" are not a pretty race and I wouldn't want to play them, they are more animal-looking than humanoids, like the Kobolds so it's a big NO for me!...

Viera are the way to go, there are even two clans for them already, the Elezen-tall ones and the short & cute ones!... :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Yeah, I don't think you have any point there!...

Burmecians come from Burmecia which is nothing but the city of eternal rain in Final Fantasy IX, eternal rain cannot exist in the desert easily and what you may refer to as Burmecians living in the desert are no more than the ones that fled their country because of war!...

---

And? Fled from war or not they're still Burmecians. And they still live in Cleyra without rain, i don't see where you're trying to get with this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

"Burmecians" are not a pretty race and I wouldn't want to play them

---

Yes because Roe are the most attractive race in FFXIV and yet they're there and people play them.

Also if you think Miqote are pretty by default you're nuts, you realize that races are ADAPTED to fit the audience, otherwise Miqote would just be a Humanoid with a lot of fur, tail and cat ears.

Instead they're humans with cats ears and tails, the same way they adapted Miqote they can adapt Burmecian.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Viera are the way to go, there are even two clans for them already, the Elezen-tall ones and the short & cute ones!... :)

---

There's a lot of people who disagree, i'm one of them.

There's already a lot of "pretty" races in the game, why do you need another one?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Where is the "Thumbs down" icon?

---

Right next to the "I'm spiteful and felt the need to come into a support thread to derail it because I don't like the idea" button.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RobbieH

And? Fled from war or not they're still Burmecians. And they still live in Cleyra without rain, i don't see where you're trying to get with this.


There's a lot of people who disagree, i'm one of them.

There's already a lot of "pretty" races in the game, why do you need another one?

---

I agree with there being enough pretty races and while I wouldn't mind Viera I'd rather see something less humanoid (Not Burmecians though. I never had an interest in playing rats).

But Sigma still has a point. You argue that the desert dweller Burmecians fit into the Gyr Abania's deserts better than the forest dwelling Viera. But Burmecians don't normally live in deserts unless they are forced to. So by this logic we could totally have Viera in the desert if war forces them out of their home. Or we could have freaking polar bear people in Gyr Abania if the Garleans brought them along to work in mines or something.

Gyr Abania isn't all desert, either. The preview showed swamps, grasslands, steppes... it's possible that desert-y area is just one portion of Gyr Abania.

Also there's like, aaaaaaaallllll of neighboring Ilsabard that a new race could be from.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

No damn rabbits. Besides n aquatic or avian race would be far more interesting.

---

No rabbits FTW!!

Would be nice to see them in-game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Right next to the "I'm spiteful and felt the need to come into a support thread to derail it because I don't like the idea" button.

---

What?!? Someone came into a thread posting their opinion in a section of the forums labeled "General Discussion"?!? We must be in some Twilight Zone! *cue twilight theme*

Unbelievably "General Discussion" is for discussion, not echo chambers. If you or others can't handle having a discussion, then perhaps those people should reconsider posting anything at all.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kyuuen

What?!? Someone came into a thread posting their opinion in a section of the forums labeled "General Discussion"?!? We must be in some Twilight Zone! *cue twilight theme*

Unbelievably "General Discussion" is for discussion, not echo chambers. If you or others can't handle having a discussion, then perhaps those people should reconsider posting anything at all.

---

Under a topic saying show your support and literally suggesting that you make your own thread if you don't want Viera? Yeah, I think you understand *perfectly* how these threads go.

On a smarter note,

Viera please :)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...5a1885c24a.jpg

I think it's a good possibility. Final Fantasy XII HD Remaster is going to be launched next year and there's rumors that we'll be visiting Dalmasca on XIV's future content/expansions.

As for the "Viera are from the Woods", yes they are, but on XIV you see a lot of Vieras that just left the woods to live outside, anywhere. They are adaptable, and the fact that most of em (open for speculation) live in the woods is just because of the tradition of listening to it, as a great mother higher being that protect the race and gives guidance. But it's worth mentioning that 1) We know very few about the male counterpart of the Viera, therefor we don't even know if the males live in the woods or not. And 2) Everything in this game is a "human variation", so I see no point on the whole "it's a Hyur with <insert trait here>" argument. Yes, it is. Doesn't mean it's going to be less fun to play because of it.

At some point, I went from mostly indifferent about Viera to staunchly against them. Or rather, should I say, staunchly against how most people (at least a lot of the vocal ones anyway) want them to appear. Do we really need yet another cutesy race? Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with cutesy races, but ffs, the majority of the playerbase is already split between mi'qote and au ra. We're really just gonna settle for another one of those except this time with bunny ears? Ooooooookay, sure, that sounds totally original and awesome.

TL;DR - Ronso or bust.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Galaktica

TL;DR - Ronso or bust.

---

I agree on the "cutesy" thing, because Viera are very elegant, mature and don't fall into the "kawaii desu" trap. But seeing some of the concepts I really hope SE, if they give us the race, at least make the Viera something the female AuRas were supposed to be from the get go. Same for the males and the concept art of them being highlander-alike bunny men. Also totally on the Ronso train, I would love to see them as a playable race. :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Balipu

You argue that the desert dweller Burmecians fit into the Gyr Abania's deserts better than the forest dwelling Viera.

---

No i didn't? I simply said Burmecians live in the desert, which they do, fleeing from war or not let's not forget the state Burmecia was in and how many Burmecians were there.

But now that you talk about it, Woods is exactly the opposite of the Desert.

And 4.0 is pretty much a war, either way i don't care, i doubt we're getting a new race so it barely matters, not to mention Au Ra was unexpected.

I never liked beast races, this is probably the first game i play as one (Au Ra).

I'd rather have the race resources spent on an extra Job, even if it was to come in a later patch.

1 Tank
1 Healer
2 DPS

Pretty much a light party of variety and would be wonderful for DF.

PS: Damn daily post limit.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Under a topic saying show your support and literally suggesting that you make your own thread if you don't want Viera? Yeah, I think you understand *perfectly* how these threads go.

On a smarter note,

---

On a smarter note don't create multiple threads about the same thing, and you can't force people to create a new thread just because they don't agree with you or the OP, that's not how forums work.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly

I agree on the "cutesy" thing, because Viera are very elegant, mature and don't fall into the "kawaii desu" trap. But seeing some of the concepts I really hope SE, if they give us the race, at least make the Viera something the female AuRas were supposed to be from the get go. Same for the males and the concept art of them being highlander-alike bunny men. Also totally on the Ronso train, I would love to see them as a playable race. :D

---

Yeah totally. If that's what everyone was clamoring for, I'd be right there beside them, but it just seems like a lot of people want a rehash of what's essentially (and abundantly) already in the game.

And yay for moore Ronso love!!! /fistbump

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Freya and her people could well find a home in Eureka but honestly, "Burmecians" are not a pretty race and I wouldn't want to play them, they are more animal-looking than humanoids, like the Kobolds so it's a big NO for me!...

---

And that's why we will never get any races beyond the generic cute and boyish looks we got now.