Tattoo on the back for all players?

Personally i would love an entire sleeve tatoo on either of the arms of my femroe, much more than a tatoo on her back.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

if said tat system is ever implemented but nothing on the neck/higher back region. Those are fro 1.0 chars only; live with it

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I don't think so. That specific design being unavailable, yes. That should be something that is defacto. However removing an entire region off the body to not have tattoos on? That's not fair and unjust. They already have a body tattoo, let alone the fact that it will always forever be that SPECIFIC tattoo design. So no, if tattoos ever get implemented, we should be able to place them in predetermined spots including where the current 1.0 tattoo sits. 2.0 players should just not be able to use the "Carteneau" design.

Would love for a tat system to be implemented

Yes, I want to have tattoo, but this means they need to update the character creation system and with the memory issue going on, I doubt we will get it.

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Originally Posted by SachiMizora

Would love for a tat system to be implemented

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Me too, and they could start with those from certain outfit like the rogue one or the kind of tribal one from heavensward, they already have the models ^^

Note: I have the legacy tattoo, and the last time it was actually visible on my character due to gear and hairstyle choices was 2.0 :D

They won't do it. If they did, then the 1.0 players wouldn't be special snowflakes, anymore. Lol

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Originally Posted by Mimiru_S

They won't do it. If they did, then the 1.0 players wouldn't be special snowflakes, anymore. Lol

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It's less of a tattoo and more of a brand actually.

Lore wise, the reason we have said tattoos is cause we were in crystal stasis to survive the big boom. Even the 1.0 chocobos got burned feathers and that same tattoo on their beaks.

Implement a tattoo system that's fine but just not that particular brand.

No, it should remain an exclusive to the 1.0 players, and they deserve it to be so.
I am 2.0, btw.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Legacy pricing was for 3 months of payment. Tattoo is for i believe any 1.0 character.

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^Yeah.

Any/every character that was transfered from a 1.0 server to ARR was given the back tattoo.

But 'Legacy' status, legacy chocobo, and reduced monthly price were all given only to accounts that bought at least 3 months of worth of Crysta.

Which is something somewhat annoying. You got a month of 1.0 free on purchase as trial. Then you choose how long to remain subscribed via Crysta purchase, and after I think 4-6months(?) the game went free to play. So if you didn't buy the 3 months of crysta during that initial narrow window you were likely SOoL.

I put a lot of playtime into 1.0, but no Legacy status because I only ever bought 2 months at most of crysta, the rest of my play time coming from the free trial month and after 1.0 went FTP. 3 Years since ARR now, buying that one extra month worth of crysta would have saved me money by now ; ;

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

Yeah I don't care about that tiny legacy tattoo, I want to be able to get tattos everywhere I want on my char, and huge ones, like full back tattoo, or full torso going up to the neck. That'd be sick but won't happen since it's a final fantasy game and we don't even have butts. Tattoos ? Hell, Playstation limitations duh.

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agreed i'd like a tattoo like the level 50 mnk/nin outfit that doesnt require some top to use that can be seen on any outfit or maybe leg tattoos

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

^Yeah.

Any/every character that was transfered from a 1.0 server to ARR was given the back tattoo.

But 'Legacy' status, legacy chocobo, and reduced monthly price were all given only to accounts that bought at least 3 months of worth of Crysta.

Which is something somewhat annoying. You got a month of 1.0 free on purchase as trial. Then you choose how long to remain subscribed via Crysta purchase, and after I think 4-6months(?) the game went free to play. So if you didn't buy the 3 months of crysta during that initial narrow window you were likely SOoL.

I put a lot of playtime into 1.0, but no Legacy status because I only ever bought 2 months at most of crysta, the rest of my play time coming from the free trial month and after 1.0 went FTP. 3 Years since ARR now, buying that one extra month worth of crysta would have saved me money by now ; ;

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It was actually a bit different. :X It's been awhile, so I had to look up the specifics, but the game launched at the end of 2010 and remained free-to-play until they finally started charging in January of 2012. The legacy status was given to anyone who paid for at least 3 months between January of 2012 - September of 2012.

I remember getting the email about the legacy campaign waaaaay after I had already quit the game, but I took a gamble and paid for 3 months just in case ARR ended up being worthwhile. :X

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

Which is something somewhat annoying. You got a month of 1.0 free on purchase as trial. Then you choose how long to remain subscribed via Crysta purchase, and after I think 4-6months(?) the game went free to play. So if you didn't buy the 3 months of crysta during that initial narrow window you were likely SOoL.

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Not exactly right.
There was the first 30 days free every MMO have. Then, before the first 30 days ran out, it go extended for other 30 days. Then again for other 30 days. Then for undefined time (until SE think that the quality reached the minimum standard for expecting a fee for the product).
P2P started in january 2012 until end of september with a discount (the amount of discount Legacy players still have).

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

No thanks. The complaining from some Legacy members would be unending. They're still bitching about the sylph mount being a goobbue. Nevermind that it looks different from the legacy goobbue...

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I agree! The Legacy members complain too much. I'm really sick of their special snowflake attitude, just because they played a game. I'm totally up for tattoos c:!

I am completely alright with a Tattoo system. Just give Legacy members the additional exclusive option of their Legacy Brand, while adding more tattoos for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Lithe

I agree! The Legacy members complain too much. I'm really sick of their special snowflake attitude, just because they played a game. I'm totally up for tattoos c:!

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Its kinda funny that people keep saying this but its the ones that DONT have the tattoo that have the issues.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Its kinda funny that people keep saying this but its the ones that DONT have the tattoo that have the issues.

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The entitlement was strong with that one.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

The entitlement was strong with that one.

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Point proven.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Point proven.

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What point? I was agreeing with you.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

What point? I was agreeing with you.

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OH! Im sorry lol gdi my bad :( PLS FORGIVE ME

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Originally Posted by bass9020

OH! Im sorry lol gdi my bad :( PLS FORGIVE ME

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Lol, all good ; the quoting is funky in these forums and it only pulled yours, so I can see where the confusion came from. But yeah, I'm tired of legacy players being called special snowflakes over wanting to keep the tattoos exclusive. Without fail, there is always at least one person who comes in with that insult.

I'm pretty sure the only unique thing that legacy players got was the Legacy Chocobo.

Tattoo - I believe is for any character marked for surviving the events of 1.0 and was not Legacy exclusive... If you see this on someone, it means it is a Character from 1.0 Not a legacy player. If I make an alt, there is no Tattoo.

Titles - were from achievements that no longer exist, or were renamed and given new titles to go with them. They were not handed out, you had to get the achievement to get them. Again, tied to the character that obtained them, my alt won't have it.

Goobbue Mount - Anyone that played 1.0 could get if they were around. (They added the slyph one, which is the same thing, wreath hat vs a carpet on top of him.)

Anyway on topic, w/e more character options, go for it. I think the Tattoo that is there though should remain unique in location and look. It really is meant as a mark for a surviving character not legacy status.

I'm a legacy player. I don't mind if player have tattoo system too but i just hope the tattoo doesn't look like the legacy one different design would be nice

But one thing i wonder the tattoo at the same place for legacy will it create a problem/bug ??? the system make the tattoo to appears on/off in-game exemple if a legacy don't want the tattoo and want to wear the veteran tattoo 2 tattoo at the same spot. Because veteran will apply to everyone that reach the number days played.
So for me to make everyone happy would be for the dev to change the system and add up a tattoo system to the in-game hair changer but only legacy can see the legacy tattoo and everyone see the other style and at the veteran reward we get it like those item for new hair style.

i don't know if anyone will like the idea


sorry for my english ^^

I don't really get the rift between legacy players and people that started after 2.0 launch. Is it completely a troll act or do some of the people really get angry with each other?

I suppose I'll say which side of the board I come from. I have a legacy character... well a 1.0 character. I only ever played the first month of the game before giving up. The game was just too tedious for me and I just quit as soon as "Rift" came out I think. So like, why didn't I just play that character when I came back in 2.0, right? For one, it's on Aegis...which is a JP server... I could transfer it though right? Why not transfer? Honestly I don't think it's worth the money to do so. What do I get out of it? A back tattoo? I never farmed any of the cool 1.0 stuff so it would just be the tattoo. That is, I never even logged into it to see if it actually has the tattoo, since the 2.0 release... I'm not sure if you had to play it longer or something or just create it during 1.0... dunno... But I didn't even care to check. So basically, I don't care about the tattoo...

That said.. this whole thread about wanting a back tattoo... A++ Troll thread OP! I mean, it's so dang specific. You don't want a belly tattoo or a arm tattoo... It HAS TO BE a back tattoo! LOL I mean, what percentage of real tattoos are back tattoos. If you just randomly picked a tattoo, the odds that it would be specifically a back tattoo (say if you never heard about the legacy tattoo) would likely have been small statistically speaking. But you want something that a few other people have. Which means, you probably know someone who has it on your server.... Myself I've seen like...maybe 2 players with one? And the thing was, I only found out because they had a rare title...then I knew to ask if they had the tattoo so I could see what it was... (like the title "The littlest princess" or something, I forget)

But yea... this is a troll thread... or you are just specifically wanting a tattoo to compete with the person who has one that you know. Either way... It made me laugh. Thank you. When it comes to the tattoo itself... they can give them to everyone or not. I could care less. Like I said... I "could" have one but I didn't bother. It means nothing to me. Is SE going to honor everyone's feelings and stuff regarding special legacy only stuff? Well let me as a better question: Have they already been protecting people's legacy only stuff? NOPE! They keep recycling and rereleasing that stuff like nobodies business (Gobuee Mount...etc) .... Next thing you know, even the legacy's players cheaper subscription price will be something you can earn or something (which would be dumb but... whatever)... Soooo yea, in my humble opinion, yea SE would give everyone back tattoos.... They'd do it to get people excited or something. "Hey back tattoos are a rare thing and I can get one! Everyone will have them now and they won't be rare anymore.... BUT I will have one so they are special again. They totally weren't special when I didn't have tho!"

Perfect 5/7 troll thread. Btw, the back tattoo is covered by gear/glamours 99.9% of the time. It was in that spot so it would only really ever rarely be seen... That's what this thread is so great.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

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its not a troll tread it was an idea that i had that i wanted to share the idea of having this brand or tatoo on the back that changes form depending on your veteran status and even if it never gets seen so is the legacy brand it is never seen because it coverd but it dosnt mean that it woulnt be a nice feature to have

and i am not saying that 2.0 players should get a legacy brand but i mean something that everyone gets even the legacy players its not a troll post its only an idea

i may have specifically said on the back but if square ever made a veteran tatoo system it could have gone anywhere from arms to hals and the back and i am not against having tattoos anywhere else on the body

just my original idea was to have some sort of tattoo that would show how long you have been playing the game i dont care if i dont see it
but it would be nice if i had something like that

I think that specific section where the legacy tattoo resides should always be for it. Anywhere else on the body I'm down for.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

I'm honestly against anything that encroaches on the 1.0 rewards, the tattoo is a reward to 1.0 players for subscribing through a dark time in the game, and is almost an apology from the developers, and a thank you for subscribing so long.

We already have Vet rewards based on game time, and as 2.0 onwards was enjoyable and relatively unchanged (not to the extent of 1.0), I don't think we deserve rewards like that. I know what you are suggesting is a unique reward, but it would devalue the 1.0 tattoo by making an equivilent reward for all players.

(btw I'm a 2.0 player, I don't have the tattoo)

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Actually, the tatoo is not a reward for subscribing to 1.0.

It was given to any character that an account had that was created during 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Lollerblades

I think that specific section where the legacy tattoo resides should always be for it. Anywhere else on the body I'm down for.

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Why that specific section? Isnt it more logic to say that the tattoo that the legacy players have should be exclusive to the legacy players only. The back and the arms are the most common places for a tattoo, its very silly to make the location of the tattoo exclusive.

Legacy tattoo should be for legacy players only, but the places where one can put the tattoo should be left to the players.

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Originally Posted by WubstahWulf

So i was wondering Legacy players have a Tattoo on there back showing there legacy status from 1.0 etc.

What if there was a Veteran Tattoo thats tied to the Veteran Reward status or some other kind of system that counts how long you have been playing the game.

The idea here is that everyone gets a tattoo on there back that can be turned on or off like the legacy tattoos and the longer you play the more progress you see in the tattoo and that it will change and evolve in a way.


Anyone for this cause i definitely am :P

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Rank 14 veteran reward maybe

I would rather like to have some kind of custom tattoo on my sexy back : 3
But it would be nice having a veteran-tattoo : 3

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I would rather like to have some kind of custom tattoo on my sexy back : 3
But it would be nice having a veteran-tattoo : 3

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We could have class icon tattoos, the different groups tattoo, like the Scion. We could have get tattoos of moogles or chocobos.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

We could have class icon tattoos, the different groups tattoo, like the Scion. We could have get tattoos of moogles or chocobos.

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Actually that could be very cool, especially if it changes depending on our actual class ^^
Keep the legacy brand for legacy players, it does not matter as long as we can get other ones ^^

The tatoo on the back is how you visually recognize the 1.0 WoL´s so to make new tatoos on the same spot/back would completely ruin that.
Even if you were to make different brands or different designs, the simple fact is that the majority of people would not know that and would mistake the 1.0 one as just yet another design.

You had one chance to get a back-tatoo and that was supporting 1.0 FFXIV.
Just like me, you decided against it/did not know about it and did not take your chance, so now you do not deserve to have that.

Serously, there can´t be a single MMO with veteran/founder rewards, without the rest of the community pawing at it in a way or another or asking for a substitute.
Those rewards are there for a reason, and it would be unfair to devalue that reward in any way or shape just because you think it´s cool and want it too.

Why is it that every other thread in this forum is "I think i am entitled to/ i demand x, GIMME"
Back tatoos are 1.0 rewards, deal with it.

(And yes, as a 2.0 player i also think it would be cool to have, only i understand why i don´t)

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Originally Posted by SagaSoluna

The tatoo on the back is how you visually recognize the 1.0 WoL´s so to make new tatoos on the same spot/back would completely ruin that.
Even if you were to make different brands or different designs, the simple fact is that the majority of people would not know that and would mistake the 1.0 one as just yet another design.
You had one chance to get a back-tatoo and that was supporting 1.0 FFXIV.
Just like me, you decided against it/did not know about it and did not take your chance, so now you do not deserve to have that.

Serously, there can´t be a single MMO with veteran/founder rewards, without the rest of the community pawing at it in a way or another or asking for a substitute.
Those rewards are there for a reason, and it would be unfair to devalue that reward in any way or shape just because you think it´s cool and want it too.

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And so ? is it that an issue to mistake a 1.0 player from a 2.0 ? Being a 2.0 player is not an insult as far as i know, needless to say, being a 1.0 does not ake you stronger, smarter or more beautiful ^^"
I mean, isn't it the definition of being a "special snowflake" to feel that much need for being treated as better than other players ? ^^" (english not my mother tongue so i actually never understood the expression ^^")
They can keep their cool brand we would not get it, make it an exclusive design and problem solved, everyone happy ^^

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Originally Posted by Celef

I mean, isn't it the definition of being a "special snowflake" to feel that much need for being treated as better than other players?

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Implying that 1.0 players are trying to be treated like special snowflakes is actually kinda insulting. I have seen a tonne of people in this thread (myself included) in defense of 1.0 players who don't have the tattoo themselves. Having something special and exclusive is not a bad thing, trying to retain it's value is not a bad thing. I honestly don't mind a tattoo system so long as the back remains clear, arm tattoos, neck tattoos (like the scion symbol), those are fine, but if you start encroaching on the 1.0 reward, then what was the point of the mark in the first place?

Please have some respect for players, I didn't preorder ARR, and I don't go around asking for an alternate cait sith minion (as much as I want one). I respect the players that did preorder the game, and move on with the knowledge that if I do nab an exclusive reward, then it should feel more valuable, though right now I would feel fearful that some player on the forum will have a tantrum.

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Originally Posted by Celef

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I have already explained in my first post how having a different brand/tatoo would devalue the original 1.0 Reward regardless.
You even acknowledged and replied to this, and even went as far as to call the 1.0 players snowflakes.

Now you act like you completely forgot this argument and claim you are not asking for the same as if that actually countered the point i made about you.
This is the same tactic you used in the "mog thread", by ignoring the points i was making in favor of a cheap come-back and a reply that did not actually face my arguments.

I do not think poorly of you because "We disagreed in the mog thread"

I think poorly of you because you are both dishonest when debating and you seem to think you are entitled to everything just because you pay a sub.
Well, you are not.

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Originally Posted by Celef

was just asking some precisions regarding the "special snowflake"

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Sorry, I may have been a bit too heavy handed in my response, I just hate the expression and I feel it is used far too often to promote entitlement to things that players don't have. In my eyes, it is something that people use when they are jealous of something that they don't have, and they put players down for having an exclusive item (like you said "1.0 players think they are better than 2.0 players, they think they are special snowflakes" a statement which in my 3 years of playing has never held any truth, and just makes you seem jealous and entitled of something that you don't have)

Let the Legacy players keep their tattoo, this I can understand, but asking for the back section to be exclusive to the legacy players only, is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Let the Legacy players keep their tattoo, this I can understand, but asking for the back section to be exclusive to the legacy players only, is ridiculous.

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How is it ridiculous?
As i mentioned before, other brands/tatoos/designs on the back would clearly make it harder to observe and recognize the 1.0 tatoo or even know of it´s significance.

You say "We don´t want to take away the 1.0, we just want something different" but when that "something different" is going to indirectly devalue the 1.0, how does "not wanting to take the 1.0 away" even matter?
You are still asking for something that, perhaps in a lesser form, is still "damaging" the reward.

If you wanted tatoos anywhere else i would support you 100% of the way but on the same spot?
No way...

It´s like if now they gave up a differently colored Cait Sith.
Your think your average Joe would know the difference between both Cait Siths?

I wish I could move my legacy tattoo from my old character to my new one T_T It was trapped on a Japanese legacy server during 2.0 launch meaning I had to start a new one if I wanted to play with friends >.>