Viera can be different from Miqo'te.

Viera would be the equivalent of Miq'ote. A Hyur (probably Highlander) with ears and maybe some claws. What about some Burmecians? Qiqrin's already to seem to resemble them in some ways, giving an easier lore assist.
Concept Art

I was stuck in editing and someone beat me to it!

I really wish they'd add Vieras in the near future to cater for the furry fan-base and just because bunnies are adorable. But hey, at least we have the bunny costume from Gold Saucer!

Need another small race!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...86ac4a5a70.jpg

Either kilala or shippo will do just fine!

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Originally Posted by Doki

I'd prefer something more beastman looking. Give them their own armor sets or whatever, but a ant dude would rock!

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http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Antica

They rocked the roes(galkas) so hard their tails fell off.

http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Galka

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

if they made it so that their bodies were like mithra and covered in fur, yeah.



dev teams are liable to change their game-lore at will. retconning has and always will be a thing.

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But FFXIV barely has any of that, if any. Nothing that disturbs the lore at least. There is a reason why FFXIV feels restricted and linear with some things. Such as Bard/MCH. SE's development sector has never really been a place where retconns happen.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100416201314 http://cfile230.uf.daum.net/R400x0/2...525015C7205441

I'm not seeing how they're so similar. Completely different body types. Hands and feet are drastically different. Nose isn't particularly humanoid. No tail.

That said, I wouldn't want Viera added because they'd likely lose most of those defining traits for development purposes. Which is also why a bestial race will likely never added.

At least, not with such a small development team.

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Originally Posted by Tilgung

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100416201314 http://cfile230.uf.daum.net/R400x0/2...525015C7205441

I'm not seeing how they're so similar. Completely different body types. Hands and feet are drastically different. Nose isn't particularly humanoid. No tail.

That said, I wouldn't want Viera added because they'd likely lose most of those defining traits for development purposes. Which is also why a bestial race will likely never added.

At least, not with such a small development team.

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Well on the other pictures the nose/facial features are quite longer as well.

If they added fur along the skin it would give the race a nice unique look, whilst still looking humanoid but very non-human.

No thanks to the fur. I'd want to play a Viera, not a rabbit with human beasts.

The issue with mostly bestial races is a LOT of people (don't let the numerous threads begging for it fool you, it's just a very loud minority) don't want to play characters that look like they were designed by an artist on furaffinity. Such as Tauren, Pandaren and Worgen. And with a small development team, they can't really justify creating races and then designing armor around those races when an incredibly small player base is the only onse who'd play them and make use of that time.

The defining traits Viera have, like the hind legs is still possible to be left alone if implemented in FFXIV. Their FFXIV concept art having the hind legs still, and that playable characters wear sandals with high heels by default that it would be a bit easier to work gear with a Viera's feet that way.

Also the massive proportion difference didn't stop Lalafells and male Roegadyn from existing.

I am cool with girls getting Viera as long as guys get something else.

I want to change character models sometimes and I don't think Viera males will look cool.

Viera girls fine Viera guys no thanks.

They had no choice but to add lala and roe since the original devs added them. Yoshi noted once that he would have chosen something other than the ffxi races for xiv if he had the original choice.

But frankly I am happy they didn't add Viera and so tired of all the threads asking for them. We have cat people and lala, that's good enough for oversexualized and cutesy. If they do add something else it needs to be something more beast tribe-ish or monstrous. Au'ra were a good first attempt but are still just Elezen with horns.

That's a matter of down/up scaling armor making small tweaks so it sits on them properly, not completely redesigning the shape entirely.

For Viera, they'd have to add heels and then readjust the entire shape of foot armor to fit the form of their feet unless they just disable visual footwear altogether. In which case they'd have to modify leg armor to look decent without boots to cover up the bottom segments. Gloves would all need to be fingerless if they want to keep the claws. Which are also a defining trait.

The male Viera concept art doesn't look too bad actually. If they did add them (and they were similar to said concept art) I'd probably want the short-ear one more then the long ear one though.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

But frankly I am happy they didn't add Viera and so tired of all the threads asking for them. We have cat people and lala, that's good enough for oversexualized and cutesy. If they do add something else it needs to be something more beast tribe-ish or monstrous. Au'ra were a good first attempt but are still just Elezen with horns.

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You say that, but when then they add in the Killer Rabbit Viera as the first NPC. That'll change everyone's tune on them being "cutesy"

...well probably not.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

The male Viera concept art doesn't look too bad actually. If they did add them (and they were similar to said concept art) I'd probably want the short-ear one more then the long ear one though.



You say that, but when then they add in the Killer Rabbit Viera as the first NPC. That'll change everyone's tune on them being "cutesy"

...well probably not.

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yeah it does! it looks horrid. I rather be something that didn't look like a roger rabbit on steroids.

Also the face on the concept art looks similar to the grinch who stold christmas.

I would love to have Viera in the game. It's possible.

There's a reason why almost any race we get will most likely be humanlike. It would take a lot of time to make armor models for a non-humanlike race. You might be thinking, "Well other MMOs have them, like Wow." Those other MMOs also have waaaay more time between updates. FFXIV's model is faster updates, and in order to do that they need to simplify some design aspects. SE even stated this is why they can't do dungeons like old-school MMOs that people have asked for where they're not so linear and more about exploration, larger, and more to them.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Pretty sure Lalafell are FFXIV's version of dwarves.

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http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080413164920Dwarves are more brutish, where as Lala's are more gnomeish.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121105221950Also Dwarves are an established FF race appearing in many games.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20111211200545Might also be a way to bring the "Mech Race" some have asked for.

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http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080413164920Dwarves are more brutish, where as Lala's are more gnomeish.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121105221950Also Dwarves are an established FF race appearing in many games.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20111211200545Might also be a way to bring the "Mech Race" some have asked for.

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Lala remind me of the Lilty from crystal chronicles.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080410202424

Actually if you look at vthe profile of aura they have a very dragon/lizard like profile. Least mine does It looks human from the front but look at a side profile they look very dragon/lizard like.

And miqo'te though look human like their face andprofile is very cat like. You see alot of differences between hyur, miqo'te, and Au ra. I could see vira being a race if they use the ff12 look, like a bunny elf chick Tall sleder but rabbit features just....... no fluffy tail or white pompom thing.

Then they could do the same scaling and small tweaks with Viera. It's not really a drastic change. Wearing footwear, it looks like they have normal feet wearing high heels.
Looking at the concept art of Viera in the tactics games, there are some who are wearing full gloves, which is pretty stupid to me but whatever.

I'd be all for Viera, if noly because it'd make my fiance incredibly happy. She's been wanting it for a long time. I wonder how many of these people that "Want a beast-like race" would actually switch to one.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet that it'd be a very small portion of them, more likely, SE would make them, and people would complain that it wasn't done right. May as well put Viera in and let those people keep complaining :D

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I'd be all for Viera, if noly because it'd make my fiance incredibly happy. She's been wanting it for a long time. I wonder how many of these people that "Want a beast-like race" would actually switch to one.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet that it'd be a very small portion of them, more likely, SE would make them, and people would complain that it wasn't done right. May as well put Viera in and let those people keep complaining :D

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The very same thing could be said for any race they add.....including Viera

I would like bunny boys. Listen, wanting to play a fugly manbearpig race is a very niche interest. Bunny people or... playable moogles pls!

Viera are a trademark race of FFT, not only that, they are really important for Ivalice Alliance and this games just draws so much from it that, why the hell not.

For lore, there is tons of places where they can come and be justified from, speciallu that misterious continent to the west of Eorzea. So, for that we have a lot and more than enough to get them. As for how male Viera might get implemented, there are some nice drafts arround about them, i think this race could perfectly fit XIV. Besides all races are quite human-like and honestly, even if we got the Au Ra, we need a more bestial looking race. Vieras totally covered in fur could perfectly do it, think about them as more elegant and slim Charrs from GW2.

Speaking of which... VEGETABLE PEOPLE! SILVARY! LETTUCE PEOPLE! WE NEED!

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I think one of the reasons the developers don't want to include Viera is that they look too much like Miqo'te and other races. However, if their bodies were covered with fur, but still humanoid I would imagine even with different facial features they could work and be successful as a race.

http://static.zerochan.net/Viera.full.10963.jpg

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Everyone knows Vieras could be different. Yoshi just made a poor excuse to say no. Au Ra is basically a fem hyur with horns, skin pallete change and an elongated spinal cord with no fur. males are elezens with everything I just said. Viera's have a special foot structure where their ankles are heightened like bunnies making them great dragoons, some even have natural claws. Their ears extend to at least 4 feet in the air making them stand out among the crowd and doesn't get swallowed up by head gear like Miqote's do. Its a perfect addition to FFXIV race selection, they just don't want to. -_-

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

What made every race different from each other despite being all humanoid is not only the racial features (Hyur being human, Elezen being elves, Miqo'te having cat ears and tail, etc.) but their proportions, facial features, animations and emotes. Overall, their characteristics.
It's very easy to tell a character's race just from close inspection. Heck, someone can tell if someone's character is a Miqo'te, Male Roe, Lala, Au Ra etc just at first glance.
Even if Au Ra are just "Hyurs with horns, scales and a tail", all they have in common is being humanoid. Their facial features, animations and etc. are very, very different.

I don't see how Viera couldn't be different from Miqo'te just because they both have animal ears. If they can give other races different characteristics that separates them from each other, I'm sure they can make the same with Viera.

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This is exactly what I'm trying to say as well. People that say that Viera look like Miqo'te but with bunny ears instead, are clearly blind or have no feel for aesthetics at all.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

What I like about Viera is that they're a proud race. Not like Elezen that are only proud in their wealth and believe in god/the church.

Viera is proud of the jungle, of being clean of corruption, and being quiet/they're not there to judge others. While Elezen will tell you you're a bad lala or a bad Hyur. Viera will not judge and will speak with actions.

There's no race like them. While Miqo'tes are wild they're not people of nature like Viera are. Miqo'te are a migratory/free race that settles in all the corners of Eorzea and adapts to all the city states. Personality wise they're night and day...Miqo'te are a happy race, Viera is stoic/reflexive race (it acts based on instincts).

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This pretty much ^^

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I really wish they'd add Vieras in the near future to cater for the furry fan-base and just because bunnies are adorable.

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This^^
They are the cutest creatures ever (in real life).

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

The defining traits Viera have, like the hind legs is still possible to be left alone if implemented in FFXIV. Their FFXIV concept art having the hind legs still, and that playable characters wear sandals with high heels by default that it would be a bit easier to work gear with a Viera's feet that way.

Also the massive proportion difference didn't stop Lalafells and male Roegadyn from existing.

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Exactly!!

Another solution SE could do is, just leave the Viera on barefoot but have their Legs covered with armor instead and or have them different colored toenails (claws) that matches with their leg armor.

Same can be done with their hands, leave their hands and claws as it is but cover their arms instead and or have them different colored claws that matches with their arm armor.

They can also solve this issue, by giving the hands and feet a little tattoo that covers the hands and feet, that matches the armor design.

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Originally Posted by Azazua_azura

Actually if you look at the profile of aura they have a very dragon/lizard like profile. Least mine does. It looks human from the front but look at a side profile they look very dragon/lizard like.

And miqo'te though look human like their face andprofile is very cat like. You see alot of differences between hyur, miqo'te, and Au ra. I could see vira being a race if they use the ff12 look, like a bunny elf chick Tall sleder but rabbit features just....... no fluffy tail or white pompom thing.

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Agreed. Just as I mentioned above none race looks alike to the other, people are just being nitpicky or have no feeling for aesthetics.

Also I wouldn't mind a small tail if it's smaller than Miqo'tes, but no pompom thing please.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I'd be all for Viera, if noly because it'd make my fiance incredibly happy. She's been wanting it for a long time. I wonder how many of these people that "Want a beast-like race" would actually switch to one.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet that it'd be a very small portion of them, more likely, SE would make them, and people would complain that it wasn't done right. May as well put Viera in and let those people keep complaining :D

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This made me laugh a bit, but I totally agree. I want this race since I heard about it as well <3

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Viera are a trademark race of FFT, not only that, they are really important for Ivalice Alliance and this games just draws so much from it that, why the hell not.

For lore, there is tons of places where they can come and be justified from, speciallu that misterious continent to the west of Eorzea. So, for that we have a lot and more than enough to get them. As for how male Viera might get implemented, there are some nice drafts arround about them, i think this race could perfectly fit XIV. Besides all races are quite human-like and honestly, even if we got the Au Ra, we need a more bestial looking race. Vieras totally covered in fur could perfectly do it, think about them as more elegant and slim Charrs from GW2.

Speaking of which... VEGETABLE PEOPLE! SILVARY! LETTUCE PEOPLE! WE NEED!

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Yup, this is what I was trying to tell in a similar thread as well. If SE would want to implement this race, they would have no issues making them fit within the lore at all. There are plenty of idea's and places they can choose from. This race would fit within the lore in XIV totally fine.

Total body fur sounds good to me too. (Or total budy fur except the face is fine too)

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Everyone knows Vieras could be different. Yoshi just made a poor excuse to say no. Au Ra is basically a fem hyur with horns, skin pallete change and an elongated spinal cord with no fur. males are elezens with everything I just said. Viera's have a special foot structure where their ankles are heightened like bunnies making them great dragoons, some even have natural claws. Their ears extend to at least 4 feet in the air making them stand out among the crowd and doesn't get swallowed up by head gear like Miqote's do. Its a perfect addition to FFXIV race selection, they just don't want to. -_-

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Yep, I think that Viera are a perfect addition to FFXIV as well as stated above.

Well, with the Maiden's Rhapsody, Burgeon Dread, Lightning Strikes, Fabula Nova Crystalis, Dissidia, Kingdom Hearts, Lord of Vermilion, the FFVII/FFX connection and many others, we don't even need FFXIV specific Lore/Explanation to have Viera in Hydaelyn. There could just be some inter-dimensional rift that throws Viera into Hydaelyn from another world. Heck, they could even imply that the voices the Viera hear in the Salikawood were Twelveswood Elementals thrown into Ivalice by the same route thousands of years ago (thus tying the Viera to the Hearers of Gridania).

EDIT: I went to look it up, because I had a nagging feeling that it would check out, and now I also know that not only doesn't we need FFXIV lore, but since all we do is all taking place in Tommy Westphall's mind (through the Mickey Mouse>Kingdom Hearts>Dissidia>Fabula Nova Crystalis/Final Fantasy XI>Lightning Returns/Maiden's Rhapsody connection, to mention one), we could just say that Tommy Westphall discovered bunny girls.

Buny people reminder, also we would need a good male viera model to fit the viera thing. Lore states that veira is a full female only race.....miqote changed so why not veira too?

Viera should be put in the game but not be made playable

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Naaa we don't need it.

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We don't need ninja or samurai either do we? We want it. -_-

One thing that would help, would be adding a Racial Abilities that mattered.

I wouldn't say no to Viera. Granted I don't see it making me want to change from lalafell but still. I would have preferred them over Au Ra anyway.

Viera are from Ivalice, and they have always been solely from Ivalice. Ivalice is not on Hydalin.

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One thing that would help, would be adding a Racial Abilities that mattered.

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This is what we call a bad idea.

Square-Enix has managed to avoid the trap of racial abilities and having to balance or design around it quite well, let's not encourage them to take a huge step backwards.

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Bunnies are dumb.



Except they don't look like roes. At all haha.

I'll settle for anything that isn't 90% human at this point. Even a playable Kobold.

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She's beyond reasoning with.

I'm sure if we asked for a playable Bomb race, she'll do whatever warped mental gymnastics she does and associate them with Lalafell to argue her point.

Viera shoud absolutely be a playable race, especially after seeing the FFXIV team's amazing artwork:

http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont.../04/Viera1.jpg
http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont.../04/Viera2.jpg

If they do add Viera, I can imagine them being the "idealized" elf (but with rabbit ears): tall, lean and beautiful without that haughtiness.

Elezen has the emotes that I would expect, but they're just so weirdly designed/ proportioned. Even 11's Elvaan's seemed better proportioned:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...DNC_(FFXI).png

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Buny people reminder, also we would need a good male viera model to fit the viera thing. Lore states that veira is a full female only race.....miqote changed so why not veira too?

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Actually, in Ivalice Lore, there are male Viera, but male and female Viera live separately and only meet up for procreational purposes. Due to their long lifespans (Fran left her village over 50 years ago, which both her older and younger sisters remembers, which means that despite all three looking to be between 18ish-30ish, they're older than those 50 years) I assume it doesn't happen very often. We just happened to play in the part of the world closest to a female village.

Their long lifespans would also set them apart from the other races, since it seems to be even longer than the Elezen (who are only "somewhat extended lifespan in comparison to the Hyur" in comparison). At least from a Lore and story-telling perspective.

I think SE are creative enough to work out ways in which the Viera (or whatever name they decide to give them) could be implemented and avoid looking too much like a Hyur with bunny ears.

I'm also hoping we can get a race with taller women, since they're pretty short regardless of what race you pick. Hopefully we could get some stronger female choices? Fran from FFXII was pretty cool imo.

For some reason I heard Vieras can mate with anyone but the result will always be a female Viera....huh, ah well.

I've been wanting a Viera race included in FFXIV for nearly a year and have been silently hoping they'd appear one day. They could easily be included in FFXIV and I really love the artwork FFXIV team made of them! THIS.MUST.HAPPEN!!! *U*

Get the bunny ears from MGP. You're now a Viera.