Will the European servers ever move to europe?

You'll want to check this out:
Transfer of the Chaos Data Center to Europe

Basically: subscription extension for those with character(s) on Chaos, and free world transfer for a week - only if you want to move to a NA/Jpn world, from Chaos. I'd say this last bit is kinda unfair. -_- Especially with this explanation:

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Because the Chaos data center is being relocated, certain players may find they are no longer playing on a desirable World.

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...because only North Americans and Japanese can find that their chosen (designated EU so far, but physically just as NA as any other NA one) world is "no longer desirable", apparently...?

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

...because only North Americans and Japanese can find that their chosen (designated EU so far, but physically just as NA as any other NA one) world is "no longer desirable", apparently...?

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Actually yes, only people from outside EU might find their world no longer desirable.

If you are from EU and on Chaos, your experience will get better.
If you are from EU and not on Chaos, your experience won't change.
If you are from outside EU (especially from NA) and on Chaos, your experience will get worse.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

Actually yes, only people from outside EU might find their world no longer desirable.

If you are from EU and on Chaos, your experience will get better.
If you are from EU and not on Chaos, your experience won't change.
If you are from outside EU (especially from NA) and on Chaos, your experience will get worse.

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If you are from EU and not on Chaos, your experience won't change - so you may want to transfer to Chaos to get a better experience.

After the server-move EU players will likely find the NA servers to be less desirable than they used to be - since there will now be a better option.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

If you are from EU and not on Chaos, your experience won't change - so you may want to transfer to Chaos to get a better experience.

After the server-move EU players will likely find the NA servers to be less desirable than they used to be - since there will now be a better option.

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^ thank you, beat me to the point. The thing "not desirable" goes both ways.

What they're saying is that people in Chaos data center may not be happy with being forced into this move.

can't wait! :3

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Well if you arent sensitive enough to notice latency or delay issues, that's good for you I guess. Not noticing does make it more enjoyable to play.

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Oh, I can notice latency just fine, thank you. I appreciate all the slide casting I can do to finish my spell and still get out of AoE, though it does make it annoying when healing. All the wasted heals when the spell didn't interrupt in time. I have to say the worst thing is your cast randomly getting interrupted when you start immediately casting after movement. That happens very arely, though. For me, the only time I fail to dodge an AoE is when I'm not sure myself if I got out of it, and sometimes I even got out even then. It's been like that since they increased the poll rate in 2.1 or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

In addition to your ping that is. Also, it's more then 0.2 seconds. Closer to 0.4

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It's only half of your ping, actually, because ping is the time it takes for information to go from you to server and back and position update for server doesn't care back the back part for AoE dodging. I think in beta the updates actually happened every 0.4 seconds in combination of your hitbox being a lot larger. It was pretty bad back then.

Anyway, my point was that randomly changing your direction doesn't force any updates, as it's a constant 0.2 seconds for the server.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

I have pretty terrible internet actually, at least when it comes to speed.

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Good thing that you don't need a lot of bandwidth, just good latency.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

This hasn't been an issue since what? 2.1?

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Australia says hi.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

Also I really pity OCE players, since their salvation is likely never going to happen. :/

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Pretty much until Square considers OCE countries as not european (Australia = Europe/uses the Euro? What..) yeah.. likely hood of ever getting anything good be slim.

If you don't feel you have a problem with the latency issues then good for you, but I'm unsure of what you're trying to achieve here by convincing others that it's not an issue for them. Because it is.

Not all of us have lightning speed reflexes and it can make me properly rage when I'm well out of AoE and still get battered. It makes me feel as if I'm letting the rest of the group down and gives EU players a reputation as less reliable, so less desirable.

On the subject of transfers though - anyone ticked off that they're offering free emigration from Chaos but no free immigration? I realise they don't want a mass surge of players joining Chaos but it also feels like they're saying "here is an improved service for you, but you have to pay extra to get it".

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilyb

On the subject of transfers though - anyone ticked off that they're offering free emigration from Chaos but no free immigration? I realise they don't want a mass surge of players joining Chaos but it also feels like they're saying "here is an improved service for you, but you have to pay extra to get it".

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They only offer server transfer for the fall that a player don't like the new latency. Players who play on servers who don't change their locations don't have to fear about latency going worse.

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilyb

On the subject of transfers though - anyone ticked off that they're offering free emigration from Chaos but no free immigration? I realise they don't want a mass surge of players joining Chaos but it also feels like they're saying "here is an improved service for you, but you have to pay extra to get it".

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Yes! There's a thread asking for SE to allow us to also move to Chaos free of charge - not just the other way around.
Please show your support in the thread if you agree with the suggestion. :)

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Originally Posted by Taika

Yes! There's a thread asking for SE to allow us to also move to Chaos free of charge - not just the other way around.
Please show your support in the thread if you agree with the suggestion. :)

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Maybe if both don't happen at the same time, or it can be abused

first week after Chaos maintenance : server transfer from Chaos away (can test out during the week how the new latency is before moving)
Second week after Chaos maintenance: server transfer to Chaos (have to create a new character for latency test)

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Originally Posted by Taika

Yes! There's a thread asking for SE to allow us to also move to Chaos free of charge - not just the other way around.
Please show your support in the thread if you agree with the suggestion. :)

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Thank you! This is what I came here looking for.