How are you going to quit on a game that is free to play, just quit playing for now and then come back later for FREE and see what you think and i'm sure there will be more end game content that is not instance raids but the beginning game is still being worked on XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Forbin
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09-03-2011, 06:37 AMDonMega
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09-03-2011, 07:03 AMMuruganYeah haha, that is kind of an empty threat when all you are really saying is "If I don't get my way I'm gonna stop freeloading off your hard work and burdening your servers with my presence!!!".Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMega
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09-03-2011, 07:14 AMForbinWhy would I quit, I like the game.. I just don't want to do instaned raids like we have now and that be all there is to end game like SOOO many other MMO's out there.. All I'm asking for is variety in EVENTS. Stop being retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMega
It has nothing to do with "getting my way" Again, stop being retarded. Who wants to do instanced raids and only instanced raids? SHIT GETS BORING.. Cheesy Waffle Fries are AWESOME.. but if I eat them everyday.. welp.. you get the point. -
09-03-2011, 07:17 AMForbini have no problems with things being instanced.. but the only end game content they keep talking about is Instance Raids.. like what we have now.. I love it when people read only what they want, and take only what they want out of a subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilthyDisco
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09-03-2011, 07:22 AMKeftenk
The OP has to be trolling........
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09-03-2011, 07:23 AMMurugan1.2 we are getting an open world (public) "dungeon", with more planned for future patches. We also also have NM's which are open world, with more planned. Then we have alliance content with no idea of what shape that will take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forbin
The developer responses about instanced content are all in response to people worried ala FFXI about the claim system causing monopolization so I would take them with that context in mind, and not to mean that "all future endgame content will be instanced".
Of course I said all this before on the last page, but you seem to have "read only what you want, and take only what you want out of a subject". -
09-03-2011, 07:37 AMVenat
Its really the lack of content within the raids that are a problem. Like I keep mentioning they need to recycle the same zone and add more objectives. Think Raid zones like how Assasults were in FFXI.
Harder the objectives more points you earn and better gear you can obtain.
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09-03-2011, 09:42 AMlenn1Maybe you should follow your own advice and realize that when yoshi-p uses the word instance he is not talking about wow dungeons. Almost everything will be instanced content, doesn't matter if its open world or in dungeons. If you're failing to understand that then stop being stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forbin
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09-03-2011, 10:51 AMAmsai
I love the idea that the game is going in a more instanced direction for events. I don't hate OW, but unless the content is presented in just the right way, it just creates problems, drama, etc. So for instance if a certain NM drops a highly sought after item, and has an extremely rare drop rate, then I'd hate for it to be OW and on some kind of timer. However, if they made said OW NM a triggered event, then I'd be ok with it (trading an item that is reasonably obtainable to a ???, etc etc) And I really cant wait for awesome Large-scale OW content in the form of something like campaign, with ranks and rewards for participation (I'd be shocked if this isnt one of the future purposes of Companies).
As I said, I dont hate OW content, but I'd rather have most if not all actual endgame events be Instanced. I think in this way the devs can better control the scenario, battle mechanics, limitations, story, and atmosphere. For instance things like Salvage and Limbus were impressive, but Sky and Sea were not to me. Its also hard to feel like you or your group are the heros in OW content. Instanced content just feeld more personal and better tailored for adventure to me, where as OW is really good for Large-scale battles where you are supposed to feel like a cog on the wheel. Maybe its just me? -
09-03-2011, 10:59 AMFilthyDiscoWhat he said ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Murugan
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09-03-2011, 02:49 PMHoolieWho
My favorite events from FFXI were small group instanced content: Nyzul Isle and other assaults, Salvage, Limbus and mission fights. So bring on the quality instanced content. I also liked small group popped NMs, and it is nice seeing these in an overworld setting. I would be happy if endgame were made up of diverse, challenging instances and popped NMs designed for small groups (8 people max).
I don't care for large group events. More than a party or two usually descends into mob tactics. I don't get the appeal.
Other than popped NMs, what endgame, non-instanced PvE content do you want? I guess there are people who like to camp NM spawns and fight for claims. Playing the rare drop lottery and cock blocking others isn't fun for me. If this kind of content is in the game, that's fine with me, but if it's not and that drives people away, that won't bother me either. -
09-03-2011, 04:04 PMBobjohnsonI honestly don't see real end-game content like Dynamis and the like being added until all the basics of the combat and job system are done. The combat changes and job system will change so much of the game, and I think it'd make adding that stuff now would be useless, as they'd just have to adjust it after it's all done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forbin
Honestly, I think end-game will come later, after all the problems with the basics of the game are actually fixed. That's more important. -
09-03-2011, 08:45 PMFensfieldAll I can find with regard to this is from the last producer letter, where it says '1.19: Implementation of a public dungeon for low levels'. That's hardly endgame content nor assurance of more to come (although I am glad of it and would very much like more as such), so..Quote:
Originally Posted by Murugan
Care to point me to another mention closer to what you're talking about?
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09-03-2011, 10:56 PMWisdom
I understand the desire for end game. I'm right there with you. But recognize that the developers have just pulled this game from the toilet to turn it into a game that has promise. Give it some time. They've been adjusting the game for the players thus far. When FFXI first came out it wasn't an end game players dream. It took years + expansions to provide all that great content. Even though FFXIV has been out for a year it's just now starting to develop. You should really think of it as JUST COMING OUT OF BETA. I wish it wasn't like that but it is, therefor, I believe your looking at some serious time before we have the end game we desire. I'm sure the Yoshi P and his development team will deliver throughout the life of the game though.
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09-04-2011, 02:50 AMelreedYeah i agree with you and with the op. Its gonna take some time to get this game in its proper course and i dont think raids will be the endgame in my op. it will be one of the choices of endgame they'll give us i hope, i really want to see open world events and epic quest chains as endgame too and of course story CS that shows your character in the middle but not as a weakling but as a bad ass character (even saving from death main story npc's lol) we spend to much time with the growth of our character to see them as weaklings example cut scene r46 mission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
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09-04-2011, 12:31 PMSylvariAre you kidding? that's a FF specialty! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by elreed
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09-04-2011, 01:22 PMZenaku
When SE said there going to be puzzle in the dungeon i thought about Nyzul Isle but that did not happen ; ; i hope we get something like Nyzul Isle.
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09-04-2011, 03:22 PMRubicon
Blows my mind that people think the first two raids are endgame content. This is just the start of ANY content in this game.
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09-04-2011, 06:44 PMKirithIt's because Yoshida has only mentioned raids when talking about endgame content and his idea of fun in a mmorpg. Plus all other games that implement raids don't implement "one or two", but a pretty high number of them to suit all the player population and give different challenges, making it the core of endgame and party based gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubicon
The point is not everyone is eager to see FFXIV turn into a RAID-based game.