[Discussion] Upcoming Hot Fix

Very nice fixes.

Vaguely worded changes that probably equate to a bunch of nerfs, we'll see

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Originally Posted by Ricky

Vaguely worded changes that probably equate to a bunch of nerfs, we'll see

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Hope not...

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Originally Posted by Ricky

Vaguely worded changes that probably equate to a bunch of nerfs, we'll see

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To be honest I could see them INCREASING the difficulty of some dungeons, particularly if more tomes are going to come from them. But, that's purely speculation on my part.

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Originally Posted by texhnolyze

1 tome per kill!
i'll happily kill all of those trash mobs ;D

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If this happens, I would be so happy. I have mastered the art of pulling the entire map of CM when running it with my FC lol

Be cool to get word on fate leveling over dungeon leveling. There's got to be an alternative to spamming fates as it's so mindlessly grindy.

Suppose that's more for 2.1 though as it's a large undertaking. Maybe not a hotfix?

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Originally Posted by kurokawa

Be cool to get word on fate leveling over dungeon leveling. There's got to be an alternative to spamming fates as it's so mindlessly grindy.

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lol of course there is an alternative, you simply choose not to do it.

Doing dungeons is infinitely more interesting than FATE spamming and levels fly by regardless.

Over all quite positive fixes in my opinion.

Right now I am particularly happy about the Miner and Botany Leve exp increase.
I did Fishing 1-50 without doing a single levequest so I know what grinding is, but Mining and Botany are too far down on the exp gaining scale to be left untouched.

All respect to those who got it up to 50 by grinding, but I expect most of you do agree that the proportions were way off considering the leveleing options we get compared to all the other classes.

nice changes

The population cap will most likely work in in a similar way to the way TERA does it. When you fill up a Zone Channel, you get shunted into a new Channel. No lockouts, just gives you a new channel with less players around.

I would imagine a system like this would need some way to enter the same channel as friends. Be interested to see how they handle FATEs in a multi channel zone though.

When is Hotfix gonna be implemented?

sounds like a great bunch of fixes to me, and personally my favorite is the diremite web issue, im sick of bots ruining it, i gave up on my weaver due to needing the webs, not being able to farm any due to bots and refusing to pay the over inflated market prices for it as its the bots selling them

more tomes cap, more place to farm them

SE "DO" listen to the community

its a good thing

Uh...so about the tombstones.. they raising the cap or just the amount we can get?

titan is geting the nerf bat for sure

Yay! Lowering the threshold for mining and botany should help combat the bots. Right now it is such a grind that it is ripe for bots. Removing the threshold means more real people leveling, decreasing the need for and value of bot goods, which in turn destroys a large percentage of their gil source. Adding more web sources does the same thing. This sounds very targeted at taking out bots by making them superfluous.

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Originally Posted by Khalus

Too little too late since there will be more areas to get Myth tomes...hrm

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Actually no, not to late. These are instance servers. So AK or anything else, can handle sustained load. By distributing more tomes, they aren't removing the sustained load on the servers, just shifting some percentage to other dungeons, which will till be running on the same servers. If they don't make changes to the reset date (which honestly I think they should), then a spike will also still occur on reset date, it will just be across more than one instance, so the need for new servers remains. They simply are announcing it for AK so people understand the purpose.

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Originally Posted by Caselia

Population cap?

Why is this game even open world?

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Well, it isn't a pure open world, but even so, this is a good thing. Remember that the servers are only designed to handle ~7000 max, distributed across 30 servers.

If you have 1000 all rush to one area for a fate, that means one single server has to handle 1/7th of the population, or 4x the load it was designed for.

Yet this usually isn't a problem, so clearly even high congestion areas aren't exceeding 750 people at a time right now, so it only is a problem during the two big fates. So these caps should only be an issue during those short windows in time, maybe an hour a week on average in the two zones that are affected.

Let's get this out of the way: There is NO WAY of increasing the dungeon difficulty WITHOUT having the gearcheck system implemented.

With that being said, I'm curious if they'll raise the weekly myth cap.

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Originally Posted by razzgrizz3

titan is geting the nerf bat for sure

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NOOOO - i hope not my free company consists of alot of casual players and we have all nearly ready to start attempting him....

I rather they just fix the lag issue with titan and leave him as he is.

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Originally Posted by Selemar

•The difficulty for level 50 dungeons will be adjusted.

I just pray they aren't dumbing dungeons down... please do not make them easier.

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I hope not. They're stupid easy as it is.

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Originally Posted by Selemar

•The difficulty for level 50 dungeons will be adjusted.

I just pray they aren't dumbing dungeons down... please do not make them easier.

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They did note that difficulty of some previous content will get scaled down on major patch updates of new content but I am not sure if this is the same thing. Still, I wish they would make it optional some how. Even so, I think this hotfix is for the people complaining about trashmobs in dungeons.

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Originally Posted by KitCat

I hope not. They're stupid easy as it is.

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I hope so. Farming AK is repetitive and mind numbing, anything to make the process go faster. But I'm also married, working, and generally not interested in hardcore gaming anymore.

If there was a zone cap and you couldn't zone in because of it, trolls would just flood the starting areas and no one would be able to play new characters.

Edit: I'm not saying that this will happen. I'm saying this is why people interpreting it as "zone population" are wrong.

That awkward moment where you realize you can't log in due to the population cap of the zone you logged out in.

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Originally Posted by razzgrizz3

titan is geting the nerf bat for sure

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Good then people who are sabotaging The Duty finder runs might finally stop.

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Originally Posted by Hairo

I rather they just fix the lag issue with titan and leave him as he is.

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^ this.

As long as this 'hotfix' gets rid of the constant lag in AK and other highly populated zones I'm cool with it.

I also agree with the statement that making dungeons harder would need a gear check implemented. AK is easy with DL, not so much with AF. For CM, they could make that harder just by removing the cannons from the level minus the end boss fight. But then the population would almost certainly desert CM because speed runs wouldn't be possible.

I just hope they aren't making dungeons easier.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

My questions is the Tomes. I wanna know where and how many. Also new World-Servers aren't going to help a congested Instance-Server with limited AK slots. They need to double or triple the number of AK, or in the case of the coming hotfix for whatever drop more Tomes, until they raise the level cap or at least until patch 2.1 where Crystal Tower comes out.

Also wanna know how to UNBIND something... I SB my Giantsgall Trident a week or two ago, and it's been unbound for about half as long...

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They didn't mention new WORLD Servers. These are new DUTY Servers.

The acquisition of Myth Tomes has kept me away from the game for a whole week after playing straight since the game started.

I guess the good part is that it has given me a time to reflect on the game and take a break which I am glad.

The game is great love it....but AK makes me wanna puke I find it uninteresting and must plain boring and a drag.

If I can queup in 4 different dungeons for tomes of Myth and not wait more than 40 min for each that would be awesome

if we can receive armor and other items like allagan metals from dungeons that would also be great......

when does this happen?

"The maintenance is scheduled to take place on Oct. 14, 2013 from 8:00 p.m. (PDT) / Oct. 15, 2013 from 3:00 (GMT)."

Also, it seems like the zone caps might be added sooner. "* The population cap is planned to be introduced separately. (Added on October 11th, 2013)"

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...56#post1410856

Oh yeah forgot they are making more server to help with the congestion for DF in AK but
they are also implementing a change to how many and where you can aquire more TOMES
I would figure the second solution would fix the first but anyways

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Originally Posted by Mordermi

"The maintenance is scheduled to take place on Oct. 14, 2013 from 8:00 p.m. (PDT) / Oct. 15, 2013 from 3:00 (GMT)."

Also, it seems like the zone caps might be added sooner. "* The population cap is planned to be introduced separately. (Added on October 11th, 2013)"

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...56#post1410856

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i hope they will post separately what excatly they will do with that. I really hope no "you can't enter that Zone, because it's full" Change.

cant wait or this update ^^

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Originally Posted by MusouMugen

Heh I was with a tank in AK the other day that I suspect was hacking. He could run in middle of mobs and not get aggro for some reason. First he tried to skip mobs and he was shouting something about us being fat noobs (he was fresh 50 too, not one blue item on him and hardly any AK stuff). But still, after we started killing, he'd run in to mobs and only the one mob in whole pack which he attacked would aggro...rest just left him alone and usually aggroed me or the mage when we attacked. Fun times, so many hacks and bots.

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What a bizarre hack for a tank to want: a no aggro hack. What's next, a Bard having a no damage hack?

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Originally Posted by Joypad

Let's get this out of the way: There is NO WAY of increasing the dungeon difficulty WITHOUT having the gearcheck system implemented.

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They can raise difficulties without this - Just because other MMORPGs were unable to doesn't mean SE is incapable of doing so. What you meant to say was: "In my opinion they should put a gearcheck system in before they raise dungeon difficulty."

My body is ready to be unable to login because I logged out in a high trafic area.

...oh boy.

If they actually RAISE the max per week on myth tomes...yay. Rest of the stuff...meh.

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Originally Posted by Doki

If they actually RAISE the max per week on myth tomes...yay. Rest of the stuff...meh.

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400 per week to 600 is pure joy, but my guess they will make it something stupid like 350 or 375 if they increase the cap at all.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

My questions is the Tomes. I wanna know where and how many. Also new World-Servers aren't going to help a congested Instance-Server with limited AK slots. They need to double or triple the number of AK, or in the case of the coming hotfix for whatever drop more Tomes, until they raise the level cap or at least until patch 2.1 where Crystal Tower comes out.

Also wanna know how to UNBIND something... I SB my Giantsgall Trident a week or two ago, and it's been unbound for about half as long...

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Where did you read 'world' servers? You do realize instances are on separate servers right...?

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

400 per week to 600 is pure joy, but my guess they will make it something stupid like 350 or 375 if they increase the cap at all.

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If they raise the cap they'll raise the items to balance - They said it's this way for the current balance they set. You want 600 a week? You'll see items raised to 520-700/1.9k each to balance it basically.

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Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise

Something tells me they are freaking screwing up again with this one, If im to read it right it means you wont be able to zone into a "full" area. Probably will zone you back into previous area and state that area is too full. Maybe channels but i can see big bugs with that if your ina group or looking for a group... might end up being more of a pain...

Probably assumptions, but if im right... gg bots will fill up half those spaces. *rubs head*

And the forums are going to be very pissed off, lets hope im wrong.

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I fear the worse aboutr this too

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

400 per week to 600 is pure joy, but my guess they will make it something stupid like 350 or 375 if they increase the cap at all.

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I'm not an elitist, so don't take this the wrong way. Just simply pointing out the affect of this. Raising the weekly cap beyond 300 could have a negative impact to those raiding BC. Gear that drops in BC is item lvl 90, same as mythology vendor items. If you can easily gear up on mythology tombstones, it will negate the point of raiding BC.

Raiders raid for the challenge and better loot in games, casuals don't raid because they do not either enjoy it, or do not have the time / availability for raiding. What is left for raiders when the gear they get is no different than what a person can get w/out raiding at all?