So how much DPS do you guys do on the dummies?

Since I'm apparently the lowest DPS BLM in this thread, I went back and redid my parser (FFXIVAPP). Same stipulations: about 5 minutes of doing single target DPS, no potions, food, party member buffs, no inflating my DPS by ending on Flare or double Flare, waiting a bit until after two sets of Convert + Raging Strikes so I'm not ending on a particularly high note.

Total Overall Damage: 87,679
DPS: 264
Accuracy: 100%
Damage Crit Percent: 12.80%

Gear:

Relic+1
HQ Vanya Hat with CHC and mostly accuracy
HQ Vanya Robe with almost all CHC + 1 Savage Might III
HQ Vanya Sash with Piety IV, CHC, and ACC (last slot will be filled later)
DL gloves and pants
AF2 boots
DL accessories + AF2 ring

I don't think I could stretch this higher without good proc luck. I even have a few pieces of Piety materia (in slots where I can add no more DET or CHC) to ensure I can always Thunder II immediately after going into UI3 after a Swiftcast Thunder III.

Edit: clarified Thunder II after Thunder III.

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

to ensure I can always Thunder II after a Swiftcast Thunder III.

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......wot?

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Originally Posted by dragonflyseksparade

......wot?

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If you don't have Piety materia, and you start your string with Swiftcast Thunder III, then do your standard Fire -> Firestarter string until Blizzard III, you can get locked out of Thunder II and either have to Scathe/Blizzard I or wait a few seconds to recover MP.

Monk w/ relic, full DL armor + AF2 boots, random 55/60/70 accessories; i65 or 70 gear overall.

245 DPS over a 3 minute period using FFXIVAPP (245 was best over a few tries).

Standard monk rotation with B4B, PB, IR, SP and HF when available. Could have been tighter on the DoTs and CDs. At the 3 minute mark I'd already burned through all my TP + the TP from an invigorate.

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Originally Posted by WutangRZA

Bard DPS should be a bit lower on a target dummy than most other classes considering we can do 100% of our DPS regardless of how much movement is required on a fight whereas other classes can't, not really surprising.

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This is true, when my BRD friend and I parsed together on training dummies, his DPS was lower than mine, however I am melee and most boss fights require me disengaging or repositioning which usually makes his damage higher than mine in real fights.

Also another thing to consider is DRG disembowel buff and how it applies to BRDs. My friend was parsing around 230 on his own, when I went to his dummy and just Disemboweled it over and over, his DPS went up to 260. To me, this is what tips it over to BRDs possibly being overpowered, when you combine the earlier point of never really being forced to stop DPSing ever and benefiting 15-20% from a debuff from DRG which actually puts it slightly ahead of my DPS (240-250).

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Originally Posted by Ados

God I love people that make excuses first before figuring out that perhaps a 20% dps increase on a 80 sec cd might impact dps.

This is also why I absolutely never take these forums seriously; everyone acts like an expert.

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I like the part where you seem to think a 20% DPS increase with 20% uptime (read: an overall 5% increase) somehow accounts for up to a 30% DPS disparity, and then get indignant about people doing the same.

I logged in just to comment on the utter hypocrisy of this post.

As a Monk wearing Relic+1, full DL except for peltast earrings and a hero's ring of striking (i think) I ended up at roughly 235-240 dps before running out of TP (using invigorate and everything). Interal release was used as often as possible, but I didn't have Blood for Blood at the time of testing.

Honestly, I don't know how good that is in relation to the gear listed but I don't think that level of DPS can be maintained during encounters as you'll probably be dodging stuff.

Damn those black mages are doing 300+ on dummies O_O that's like the highest I've seen reported so far.

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Originally Posted by savant07

Damn those black mages are doing 300+ on dummies O_O that's like the highest I've seen reported so far.

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Cause it's Bs...

Avging about 245-250. Depends on how my procs wanna be. 3min span
BRD.

Weapon:Relic +1
AF+1 head
Demagouge Body
Darklight slotted in rest
Demagouge Ring
No Food
No Raging Strikes

My BLM DPS on Lvl 50 Dummy bursts at 325 on average (got one at 365 but that is pure procs/crits). Average 10 minute parsed at 253-270 on thunder 3, fire 3, fire until procs rotation, no flares or Raging Strikes used. I did notice something strange though, whenever I did a Scathe phase (such as in some fights you can do to not totally drop your dps) dps would drop to about 253-256 and be super hard to recover from even with procs. Just as a side note, FC member was running parser on Titan HM and he said my BLM parsed at around 180-187 DPS. Possibly could be higher if I was more focused lol.

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Originally Posted by Zerosix

Eye roll. Stop posting nonsense without a screenshot. This is WAY above what others are reporting.

EDIT: I went an looked, and you are pretty damn geared, but this still seems far fetched. Can you post a breakdown in screen shot? Sorry for being so forward before the edit. It just seems like people throw random numbers out there.

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Originally Posted by Drex

Cause it's Bs...

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Here is the 340 that I had earlier this week.
http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/mo...tml?sort=3&o=1

I didn't take a screenshot of the 340 by action so I went out to try and replicate it an hour ago and couldn't get the RNG as friendly as it was earlier, QQ. Here is the actions for a 326 dps though.

http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/mo...tml?sort=3&o=0

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Originally Posted by TallSummit

Here is the 340 that I had earlier this week.

http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/mo...tml?sort=3&o=1

I didn't take a screenshot of the 340 by action so I went out to try and replicate it an hour ago and couldn't get the RNG as friendly as it was earlier, QQ. Here is the actions for a 326 dps though.

http://s1082.photobucket.com/user/mo...tml?sort=3&o=0

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What is your rotation, and how do you use flare? That is some nice dps. I am just interested. Even if you hit more than 1 target with flare, not saying this is what happened, it is still pretty up there. I did not get the links for your pictures until I hit reply and copied them, btw.

Ive had 450DPS 30 second bursts, 340 sounds like a number you would get by targeting any of the dummies within AOE range of each other and having flare worked into rotation. To clarify summit, you were using the dummy on the furthest right/west in whitebrim?

Also,
http://i.imgur.com/3KDGeBW.png

3 minute parse, no food, used everything else. Wish I had some allagan armor pieces so I could get over 300 consistently, but drop RNG hates me...

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Originally Posted by Youmu

Ive had 450DPS 30 second bursts, 340 sounds like a number you would get by targeting any of the dummies within AOE range of each other and having flare worked into rotation. To clarify summit, you were using the dummy on the furthest right/west in whitebrim?

Also,
http://i.imgur.com/3KDGeBW.png

3 minute parse, no food, used everything else. Wish I had some allagan armor pieces so I could get over 300 consistently, but drop RNG hates me...

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How are the other classes doing in comparison to you?

Did a 5 min parse on BRD, got 231 DPS, I probably could have done higher due to letting dots fall sometimes to hit End/BL, I'll try again later. Gear as followed:

Relic Bow
Head/Body/Feet/Ear/Waist Darklight
Legs Toxotes
Hands AF2
Spinel Ring HQ(10 Acc, 6 Vit, 3 Det)
Spinel Ring HQ(10 Acc 4 Vit)
Imp Op Neck HQ(10 Acc, 6 Vit, 1 Det)
Imp Op Wrists HQ(10 Acc, 3 Crit, 4 Vit, 3 Det)

Profile Stats:
Dex 425
Accuracy 518 - Overkill but I can't slot Crit or Dex on Accs
Crit Rate 498
Determination 214
Attack Power 425
Skill Speed 375

Latest version of XIV App - 70,781 Damage, 100% Accuracy, 37.12% Crit Rate. No food and the usual buffs, Internal, Blood4blood and used Invig once. Overall pretty happy considering the gear, will be even better once I get Allagan/Heros to replace my accessory's, getting AF2 legs today first.

Edit: Did another 233 DPS, same everything ofc.

Edit2: I could also get slight lag due to having 2 characters logged in on the same PC, will try again more tonight. :D

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

If you don't have Piety materia, and you start your string with Swiftcast Thunder III, then do your standard Fire -> Firestarter string until Blizzard III, you can get locked out of Thunder II and either have to Scathe/Blizzard I or wait a few seconds to recover MP.

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I'm still confused. You do realize that T2 and T3 don't stack right? Using a swiftcast T3 followed by a T2 is a waste of a gcd.

Can anyone give me a link to a good parser please? I would appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Aiyza

Can anyone give me a link to a good parser please? I would appreciate it.

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Depends on what you mean by "good." FFXIV App is the most commonly used one, I reckon; though Log Rep has a fair share of users, too.

Keep in mind that neither of them can accurately parse DOT damage, and I know app doesn't pick up Shadow Flare or Flaming Arrow, and I believe neither of them accurately pick up Sword Oath damage. . .

Of course, all these issues ultimately go back to "the combat log needs a lot of work."

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Originally Posted by dragonflyseksparade

I'm still confused. You do realize that T2 and T3 don't stack right? Using a swiftcast T3 followed by a T2 is a waste of a gcd.

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I don't clip it or stack it. I never meant that I do it one after the other, merely that I use Thunder II at the end of the rotation. I'll make this even simpler since there seems to be confusion.

Without piety: Thunder III > Fire x Firestarter until almost out of MP > Blizzard III > Thunder I or Scathe or Blizzard I or wait until an MP regen tick occurs then do Thunder II
With piety: Thunder III > Fire x Firestarter until almost out of MP > Blizzard III > Thunder II with no pause whatsoever