Parry is useless. Can we change it?

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

Tell me that after playing Dark Knight that invests heavily into parry with their buffs.

Parry is far from useless.

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I play DRK. Parry (the stat) is useless.

yes let add more dmg on top of war 6k fel cleaves lol

Why does it need damage?
It should just be better at what it's meant to do, mitigate.

Maybe higher returns and more consistency. I think it'd be better flipped.
Parry stat should give you more damage reduction from parrying, while parrying should have a set percent that's reasonably high.

It could also even just be that you always parry, and how much you parry depends on the stat.
That could be balanced.

Damage added it could be an option, but that shouldn't be the main reason to get it.
It should be attractive for its mitigation. And your survival should be in danger if you ignore it.

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Originally Posted by XgungraveX

yes let add more dmg on top of war 6k fel cleaves lol

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To be fair, one high damage skill on one class isn't a reason to NOT give tanks more damage, but Parry isn't the logical method. And Fell Cleave is a special case that needs to be considered when balanced against the tanking capabilities of the class. Take for instance the nerf to Defiance's healing bonus on emergency heals.

Perhaps it could be damage reflection instead.
100 Parry = 1%

So, 500 Parry would be 5% damage reflection, 5% damage is prevented and reflected back to the caster's target when it attacks him directly.
Or, 500 = 3%.

As a sort of riposte. Removing the RNG completely from it.

I also edited it for replies because I always seem to hit the "Post Limit" cap.

100 Parry = 0.5% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
200 Parry = 1% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
300 Parry = 1.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
400 Parry = 2.3% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
500 Parry = 2.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
600 Parry = 3.3% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
700 Parry = 3.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.

Parry renamed to Spiked Armor or Retaliation.

I don't really like Nek, but the riposte idea sounds alright considering parry is and always was the worst defensive mechanic

edit: might have to be a dkn specific trait though

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Originally Posted by Nephera

I don't really like Nek, but the riposte idea sounds alright considering parry is and always was the worst defensive mechanic

edit: might have to be a dkn specific trait though

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I'd honestly love Grit to be like this:

Grit Dread Spikes
20% Retaliation. (instead of damage reduction.)
Enmity gain is increased.
Lower overall damage by 20%.

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

Lol... so instead of parry reducing at least 20% of damage, you would rather it reduce WAY less and reflect the damage back? You MUST be kidding. Do you think about the things you're typing before you type them? What use is 3.7% RNG damage reflection when you have to stack 700 parry? The stat is still useless.

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Uhm.. 500 parry is about a 5-6% chance to parry. That is about 1% damage reduction with an RNG component. That is .. not very good.

Parry only 20% damage reduction, not 100%. So that 5-6% is like 1%. This is a LOT better.

There is a reason why parry is completely worthless. =)

I actually think 500 parry is even lower, 3-4% extra parry. Which is like 0.7-0.8% damage reduction.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Perhaps it could be damage reflection instead.
100 Parry = 1%

So, 500 Parry would be 5% damage reflection, 5% damage is prevented and reflected back to the caster's target when it attacks him directly.
Or, 500 = 3%.

As a sort of riposte. Removing the RNG completely from it.

I also edited it for replies because I always seem to hit the "Post Limit" cap.

100 Parry = 0.5% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
200 Parry = 1% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
300 Parry = 1.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
400 Parry = 2.3% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
500 Parry = 2.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
600 Parry = 3.3% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.
700 Parry = 3.7% of damage received when facing your target is prevented and reflected.

Parry renamed to Spiked Armor or Retaliation.

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Lol... so instead of parry reducing at least 20% of damage, you would rather it reduce WAY less and reflect the damage back? You MUST be kidding. Do you think about the things you're typing before you type them? What use is 3.7% damage reflection when you have to stack 700 parry? The stat is still useless.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Uhm.. 500 parry is about a 5-6% chance to parry. That is about 1% damage reduction with an RNG component. That is .. not very good.

Parry only 20% damage reduction, not 100%. So that 5-6% is like 1%. This is a LOT better.

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Lol, where do you get these numbers? Out of you rear end? I'm at 388 parry, and I generally trigger parry at about a 10% rate on my Warrior.

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

Lol... so instead of parry reducing at least 20% of damage, you would rather it reduce WAY less and reflect the damage back? You MUST be kidding. Do you think about the things you're typing before you type them? What use is 3.7% damage reflection when you have to stack 700 parry? The stat is still useless.

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0.8% to 1%ish Damage Reduction vs 2.5%-3% Damage Reflection. What is better?

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

0.8% to 1% Damage Reduction vs 2.5%-3% Damage Reflection. What is better?

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Again, where are you getting your numbers? It's hilarious.