In Regard to Housing in Patch 4.1

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Originally Posted by Aldotsk

The way I see in this system to defend is very slim and it shows no justification in people hogging houses and selling it for ridiculous prices. If people don't want to use that house, then just let people have who really want it.

If you want to sell it only for resale price to have it back, i'll understand. But to sell it for 200-500m on a large, then 30-50 for small and 80-150m for medium is like definitely showing the way of people being more greedier than it needs to. That's why housing system in this cannot be defended whatsoever.

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Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they don't want it. And maybe they are using it, just differently than most would. There are tons of ppl using houses that people think aren't getting used. JB there isn't 10 trees and ponds in the yard doesn't mean they aren't using it. If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Multiple plots required to make it effective so you can have all 4 stages going at once or it's incredibly slow going.

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It's only 2 stages once you get rolling; Figs + Pineapple making Glazenuts, and Onions + (insert 50 different seeds) making your cross. The problem is reaching that point. Apricots and Royal Kuku were murdered in 3.x.

Most people that start gardening thinking it's a quick and easy buck get a rude awakening. It takes time to figure out the system, plan your crops, and the bigger your grow-op the more soil you burn through.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they don't want it. And maybe they are using it, just differently than most would. There are tons of ppl using houses that people think aren't getting used. JB there isn't 10 trees and ponds in the yard doesn't mean they aren't using it. If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.

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Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.

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What? Have you not been paying attention? Thats exactly the problem. People want them but since they are finite they can't get them. Otherwise you are saying there is 100% enough houses to go around for people "who really wanted" them which isn't the case. FYI people can "really want them" without having the means to pay for them from a house flipper or checking the districts every hour, on the hour for most of the day. That's like saying if people really didn't want to have cancer they would just find a cure. These replies continue to show how far removed you are from the reality of the situation and your complete lack of ability to utilize empathy.

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Originally Posted by Aldotsk

Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.

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He already told us that he got his two houses with "hard" work by having his friends sell them to him (or give them up for him). So somehow since he could get them that way its somehow easy enough for everyone else to get it if they want it even though this is simply impossible because even if only those that want a house buy one you will still have that limit.

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Originally Posted by Aldotsk

Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.

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While I wouldn't call it sympathy for flippers, their existence beats the alternative - only people who play the 4am Tuesday login lottery having houses.

Wanting and deserving are 2 different things. Just wishing for them and wanting one given one to you doesn't entitle a player to have one. Is is that hard to accept that some of this stuff isn't going to be easily obtained? And yes I did work " hard ". I farmed gil for 4-5 hours a day for months. And yes I did buy from friends. One upgraded his small FC in Goblet, and the other transferred Servers, and I had obtained my first FC through camping auto demos.Why should everyone deserve a house? It's a luxury in this game, shouldn't it be earned? I know plenty of people on every server upgrading, and gil can be farmed by the millions quickly, so yea if you don't have a house, you'e not trying hard enough, and I stand by that, while you guys hide behind the housing problem for your woes. " Don't hate the player, hate the game." comes to mind with housing. There are tons of smalls every day being sold on every server for a few million, which isn't a flip. Most just want their money back, so yes while youre paying " double the SE fee " No one is making money. If you're constantly looking and asking around and stay in the " housing pipeline ", you can find one quickly, so yes to answer you, if it's that easy for me, it should be that easy for anyone else. I am not special in any way, shape or form in regards to how I obtained my houses.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

While I wouldn't call it sympathy for flippers, their existence beats the alternative - only people who play the 4am Tuesday login lottery having houses.

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That is completely false. The auto demos are not active, and when they are, they auto demo every hour on the hour. Not once a week.

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Originally Posted by Scardon

That's like saying if people really didn't want to have cancer they would just find a cure.

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Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.

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Okay we get it, you like how exclusive housing is because you have one. Congrats on grinding so hard btw, nobody has ever grinded for gil as hard as you. 4-5 hours a day for months? how did you even manage!!! I still stand by what I said earlier, SE please let Abelfei be the one to distribute housing in the future.

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Originally Posted by Strywin

Okay we get it, you like how exclusive housing is because you have one. Congrats on grinding so hard btw, nobody has ever grinded for gil as hard as you. 4-5 hours a day for months? how did you even manage!!! I still stand by what I said earlier, SE please let Abelfei be the one to distribute housing in the future.

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I never said any of those things. Thanks for the commendations but again you are wrong. There are thousndads that grind harder than me for gil. And to your answer your question how I managed : I like doing it. And I am not employed by Square Enix, which would probably be a pre-requisite of doing the aforementioned job you proposed I do for them. And I like housing because of the community it builds, the role-playing, and the depth in which you can design, not because of any exclusivity like you assumed and slandered like everything else.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Troll? That makes no sense? My business? I've never once sold a plot, yet multiple for profit which would define a flipper, which is what you're accusing for. I repeat, I have never ONCE sold a plot. I have entertained the idea once, but it was after solicititation of offers. The offer got me excited, and after thinking about it rationally, I didn't do it. But when someone puts an out on your plot for 200 million, you owe it to yourself to at least think about it and I did.

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LOL calm down, just use a dummy reddit account next time you sell.

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Originally Posted by Strywin

LOL calm down, just use a dummy reddit account next time you sell.

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I don't need a dummy account, I have nothing to hide. Plus again, if you look at my listing when I was thinking about selling the Mist plot when people were offering, I was looking to buy a large as well. But now I won't ever sell my Mist plot, not even for a large. I will wait til I can upgrade my small personal and always keep the Mist.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

That is completely false. The auto demos are not active, and when they are, they auto demo every hour on the hour. Not once a week.

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I was referring to the release of new wards, which happen with major patches, and involve a race to login at 4am on a Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I was referring to the release of new wards, which happen with major patches, and involve a race to login at 4am on a Tuesday.

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Ahhh gotcha, I kind of thought that afterwards, it just wasn't clear. Sorry. I agree with the "lottery of Shirogane". What I disagree with, and others have said this, not you, is some people thought they were at disadvantage, when everyone had issues with logins and all were suceptable ( spelling?) to same errors/process.

Have they ever toyed with the idea of having neutral plots instead of Small, Medium and large?
That way the size of the house is decided when you are constructing.
So say you buy a plot for a fixed price the devs decide. Then you build a small one, or if you have the gill a large.
But in case you were only able to build a small, it's no big deal, because you could make more gil and then pay the price to upgrade the house to a medium or large. Kinda like animal crossing.
That would solve the problem of FC's having to settle with small houses since people snatch the large ones in minutes after patch. Also would give people something to work for if they have a small, increasing the gil sink.

Wouldn't solve the bigger problem of housing and avaliability, but hey.

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Originally Posted by Vocal_Night

Have they ever toyed with the idea of having neutral plots instead of Small, Medium and large?
That way the size of the house is decided when you are constructing.
So say you buy a plot for a fixed price the devs decide. Then you build a small one, or if you have the gill a large.
But in case you were only able to build a small, it's no big deal, because you could make more gil and then pay the price to upgrade the house to a medium or large. Kinda like animal crossing.
That would solve the problem of FC's having to settle with small houses since people snatch the large ones in minutes after patch. Also would give people something to work for if they have a small, increasing the gil sink.

Wouldn't solve the problem of housing and avaliability, but hey.

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II really like this. Thought of this a few times. I think its one of the best ideas out there. Buy a plot in which you can upgrade or downgrade via the price difference between sizes.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.

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You are being purposely obtuse. Im pointing out that simply having the will to do something doesn't make it possible. Don't have any money? Just have more money if you really want it. Want a car that doesn't exist any more? Well if you REALLY wanted it you would just go get it. Want to clear all the content in the game solo? You'd just solo it right now if you REALLY wanted it. etc etc. When it comes to dealing with something finite, the will to do it is step one of countless steps if its possible at all.

Your 'self help book' solution to housing isn't practical.

"If you have the gil, buy a house it IS that simple." Oh cool then, just show me the empty plot on my server and I'll go buy it. I have have more than enough for empty large plot. I mean its just that simple, right? Since participating in house flipping is specifically prohibited I have no intention of breaking the rules just because i could get away with it.

They are worth whatever people will pay for them. That's the way its been, that's the way it'll go unless they change things. Nobody is getting fooled into buying, most people are completely willing to pay for nice plots, more so than the people that aren't willing. Most people have the mentality that it's no big deal, because they make hundreds of million between months anyway, so the value of gil to some is way different. When you have smalls averaging 3-20, mediums 25-250 and larges 100-600 million, and they sell everyday, whether you want to say they aren't worth that or not, they are, cause that is what the market is showing. If you want to argue flaws in the housing I would accept the pricing as one, as it is way too cheap for most people playing. For how competitive housing has become, I think the economy is showing us what they truly are worth, as opposed to what SE first set as a base cost. If someone obtains a plot, it is completely up to them and within their rights to relinquish it however they see fit, if they wanna relinquish it to someone privately, I think that is completely fine, no matter what the details of the transaction are, gil, items, completing runs etc.. I don't see why people should be mandated to release them to the public and let someone randomly stumble upon it. Value just went up some more. How? Cause i determine what it is worth to me. Others feel the same. Get the gil, buy it, be happy.

im not argueing nothing im stating facts... Selling a house for crazy amounts will get you banned and SE has stated this..So keep thinking your justified in selling it for 500 mil just cause some one will pay or you think its worth that ..its not that is called house flipping you are making more then the house is valued on the sign board..

"In terms of people who are reselling, like giving up their home and then trying to sell it off for an enormous amount of gil, that sort of reselling of housing is a no-go. We do not stand for that.

When you do see a player that is obviously utilizing their housing to sell it off for a really high amount, and you do see in party finder, please let us know. Report it to us and then GM's will go in and investigate. And if we do find evidence that it is true that a certain player is going out there selling off their land for an unusually large amount of money, we will try to go in there and make them refund that gil and return the land.

We may have mentioned it before, but we do not allow people to do something as malicious as selling some of these plots. Again, once we have it reported, we will investigate and find the evidence. And once we find sufficient evidence, we will try to address it and rectify the situation."

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-this-thread

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

im not argueing nothing im stating facts... Selling a house for crazy amounts will get you banned and SE has stated this..So keep thinking your justified in selling it for 500 mil just cause some one will pay or you think its worth that

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Where did you get the impression that i was selling a plot for 500 million? I've never sold a plot, yet alone been on either end of a transaction that large. I was merely stating that their are deals that large going on currently. Your slander and false accusations are just as bad as any TOS violation. To misquote and put those word in my mouth is ridiculous. I see a word in that copy and paste quote that says "enormous", and that rings loudly to me, and backs up what I have been saying. Look for someone who isn't gouging, and there are plenty doing plots at reasonable prices, not enourmous price gouging, which is what he said not to do.

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

im not argueing nothing im stating facts... Selling a house for crazy amounts will get you banned and SE has stated this..So keep thinking your justified in selling it for 500 mil just cause some one will pay or you think its worth that ..its not that is called house flipping you are making more then the house is valued on the sign board..

"In terms of people who are reselling, like giving up their home and then trying to sell it off for an enormous amount of gil, that sort of reselling of housing is a no-go. We do not stand for that.

When you do see a player that is obviously utilizing their housing to sell it off for a really high amount, and you do see in party finder, please let us know. Report it to us and then GM's will go in and investigate. And if we do find evidence that it is true that a certain player is going out there selling off their land for an unusually large amount of money, we will try to go in there and make them refund that gil and return the land.

We may have mentioned it before, but we do not allow people to do something as malicious as selling some of these plots. Again, once we have it reported, we will investigate and find the evidence. And once we find sufficient evidence, we will try to address it and rectify the situation."

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-this-thread

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Yeah TBF, he was going to sell it for 200 million or more possibly according to his reddit post that he deleted.

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Originally Posted by Strywin

Yeah TBF, he was going to sell it for 200 million or more possibly according to his reddit post that he deleted.

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yea seems his post keep magicly getting deleted like where he said he put up a add for 200 mil but the guy talked him down and why would he sell for 150 mil when thats what he paid...then the post where he said the value is going up now worth 500 mil lol

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Where did you get the impression that i was selling a plot for 500 million? I've never sold a plot, yet alone been on either end of a transaction that large. I was merely stating that their are deals that large going on currently. Your slander and false accusations are just as bad as any TOS violation. To misquote and put those word in my mouth is ridiculous. I see a word in that copy and paste quote that says "enormous", and that rings loudly to me, and backs up what I have been saying. Look for someone who isn't gouging, and there are plenty doing plots at reasonable prices, not enourmous price gouging, which is what he said not to do.

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well since your post keep magicly dissapering like lucky charms lol...you had a post up stright up saying you put ad out for 200mil but the guy talked you down and you wernt reselling for 150 mil cause thats what you paid..then you posted the price keeps going up its worth 500 mil now lol.. i never once said you sold a plot. going by your own post where you had put a ad up for 200 mil and then you stating the price went up its worth 500 mil now.

BTW i never once slander you or stated a false accusation..your own post which others saw back up what i said..but either you deleted them or SE is watching you.. you post you put a ad for a house sale up for 4 x the max value of any large 200 mil then you your self said it was now worth 500..all i said is "keep thinking your justified in selling it for 500 mil" do see ny thing there that said you sold a plot?????

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

They are worth whatever people will pay for them. That's the way its been, that's the way it'll go unless they change things. Nobody is getting fooled into buying, most people are completely willing to pay for nice plots, more so than the people that aren't willing. Most people have the mentality that it's no big deal, because they make hundreds of million between months anyway, so the value of gil to some is way different. When you have smalls averaging 3-20, mediums 25-250 and larges 100-600 million, and they sell everyday, whether you want to say they aren't worth that or not, they are, cause that is what the market is showing. If you want to argue flaws in the housing I would accept the pricing as one, as it is way too cheap for most people playing. For how competitive housing has become, I think the economy is showing us what they truly are worth, as opposed to what SE first set as a base cost. If someone obtains a plot, it is completely up to them and within their rights to relinquish it however they see fit, if they wanna relinquish it to someone privately, I think that is completely fine, no matter what the details of the transaction are, gil, items, completing runs etc.. I don't see why people should be mandated to release them to the public and let someone randomly stumble upon it. Value just went up some more. How? Cause i determine what it is worth to me. Others feel the same. Get the gil, buy it, be happy.

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The entire concept of a fluctuating 'housing market' is against the rules. As stated repeatedly in other threads and in this thread with provided citations and evidence. the most you are allowed to sell a plot for is something close to its default listing price as if it were empty to make up the original price that was paid.

Even in that case the person who is ultimately buying it has to pay both the seller and then buy the plot, so they end up paying double which is still pretty unreasonable.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Most people have the mentality that it's no big deal, because they make hundreds of million between months anyway, so the value of gil to some is way different. When you have smalls averaging 3-20, mediums 25-250 and larges 100-600 million, and they sell everyday, whether you want to say they aren't worth that or not, they are, cause that is what the market is showing. If you want to argue flaws in the housing I would accept the pricing as one, as it is way too cheap for most people playing. I don't see why people should be mandated to release them to the public and let someone randomly stumble upon it. Value just went up some more. How? Cause i determine what it is worth to me. Others feel the same. Get the gil, buy it, be happy.

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Where in the world did you get that set of mind. Where do you get this kind of confident assumption where you think everyone thinks like you?

No. You are the only one who thinks that when people get gil that much to pay ridiculously for that house. I can't see myself that and I am sure people who has expressed their feelings from this 60+ pages plus 80-90% of housing people with people who signed the petition in Housing forum section would not agree with you.

When people earn that much gil, I suppose they will get bored out of the content to a point they will spend 100-600m for their house. But in the end, when everyone gets to have their houses and you can spend regular price - you are saving money than wasting extra.

Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you think, they'd have one.

Thats where you are completely wrong. If you have read the posts, you would have seen that there are plenty of people that would really want A house, but because of greed and gold sellers, The housing market was gone in less then 10 minutes.:mad:

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Originally Posted by Damous

Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you think, they'd have one.

Thats where you are completely wrong. If you have read the posts, you would have seen that there are plenty of people that would really want A house, but because of greed and gold sellers, The housing market was gone in less then 10 minutes.:mad:

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If it was only a handfull of people maybe...but truth is the shiro houses gone in 10 mins is due to SE not releasing enough supply.. when you have servers with 5,000 + homeless people and you release 720 houses no matter what there gonna be gone in 10 mins

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Originally Posted by Dragonrage53

Well if SE unchained gardening from housing plots and allowed something like instanced greenhouse plots that varied in size, and amount of planting beds based on how much gil was spent im pretty sure a lot of gardeners would gladly relenquish their houses once they get setup in their new gardening area. To be clear i don't want a housing plot im basically happy with the apartment (I still wish it was bigger or had 2 rooms). But if I just had reasonable access to say 3-6 gardening plots that were mine and mine alone along with the apartment I would be a very happy camper.

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I completely agree with this. The apartments should allow for like another room at least because if you think about it it could solve some issues with the housing as it is right there but still we should be allowed to grant permissions to friends or even an FC since a lot of FCs don't have housing right now because of how things are set up currently.

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Originally Posted by ShayeraRyn

I completely agree with this. The apartments should allow for like another room at least because if you think about it it could solve some issues with the housing as it is right there but still we should be allowed to grant permissions to friends or even an FC since a lot of FCs don't have housing right now because of how things are set up currently.

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A post of mine from another thread..

Just make all apartments have the same interior as the houses . you can buy a s/m/l or buy a small and down the road upgrade to med or large. small has 2 floors like normal med the normal 3 floors and large the 3 massive floors add a balcony that looks out into genric scenery depending on where u pick to live ,mist ocean lav beds trees n so on... give balconys items limits like yards...make all apartments zone in from maijor citys to not just zones and offer transfer for apartments so they can change there balcony scenery..

As for gardens n workshops... take the sobs out of houses period / or add to all along with...
Put gardening and workshops in your GC squad door...the higher rank you are the more garden plots you have access to and the more airships..as well as housing glam schimatics.. no need to have these locked to houses or FC the airships bring back crafting material people not in fc can use..if airships only brought back items say such as rare buff making materil i can see it but time to unlock these two from houses

There are 3 GC ranks now 1-Private/ 2-Sergeant /3- Lieutenant
Garden plots/air ships
Rank 1 20 plots 1 ship
Rank 2 40 plots 2 ships
Rank 3 60 plots 4 ships

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

A post of mine from another thread..

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This is why its such an obvious problem. Players have suggested MANY different solutions, all of which would be much more satisfying than the current system. If players were posting ideas only to have them immediately shot down by many others or holes easily poked that usually means the problem isn't a very urgent one or a proper solution is very hard to come by. This problem has many, many solutions and they usually revolve around instancing.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

They are worth whatever people will pay for them.

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You do know that selling houses is against the ToS? So kinda implying that people can get them if they have enough gil (thus buying from others) means that people should go against the rules of the game to get something. Also since Gil itself has no real meaning in this game other than for glamour and housing I am quite sure that we would still not have enough houses even if they would cost that much.

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Originally Posted by ShayeraRyn

I completely agree with this. The apartments should allow for like another room at least because if you think about it it could solve some issues with the housing as it is right there but still we should be allowed to grant permissions to friends or even an FC since a lot of FCs don't have housing right now because of how things are set up currently.

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I actually rather like the apartment I've managed to put together in that small space.
I wouldn't mind more, but I'm happy with what I've got....


Except for gardening.
I can't crossbreed anything...

And, when interacting with my pots, I'm restricted to the default 'use item' animation, I don't get the nifty animations from gardening in a 'real plot'

No watering can animation, no weeding animation, etc...

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

I actually rather like the apartment I've managed to put together in that small space.
I wouldn't mind more, but I'm happy with what I've got....


Except for gardening.
I can't crossbreed anything...

And, when interacting with my pots, I'm restricted to the default 'use item' animation, I don't get the nifty animations from gardening in a 'real plot'

No watering can animation, no weeding animation, etc...

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SE should just release a oblong flower pot that would allow cross-breeding. It shouldn't have as many slots as an actual garden plot, but it'd be better than nothing for the ones without a house.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

We’ve also received considerable feedback as to how they should be added, and we will be making an announcement outlining the number of new wards and how they will be sold.

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'The solution should be simple enough. beyond getting more plots and wards .. make private housing sharable and usable between all characters on an account on the same server
thus making it so players cannot buy multiple privates one per alt character as it is now.
existing accounts that have multiple houses, with 4.2 would have to choose their primary private residence and choose which ones they would loose at login
( demolish timer would start giving them sometime to move out after which they would get a refund for plot and plot would be vacant.)

this would help mitigate situations where players pretty much own a whole section of an ward,,, and make a more fair housing policy curbing housing herders.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

You do know that selling houses is against the ToS? So kinda implying that people can get them if they have enough gil (thus buying from others) means that people should go against the rules of the game to get something. Also since Gil itself has no real meaning in this game other than for glamour and housing I am quite sure that we would still not have enough houses even if they would cost that much.

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Can you show me where in TOS it stated you are not allowed to resell a house?
All I can recall is Yoshida saying flipping for huge profits is something they don't stand behind. (E3 interview 2016 i believe)

It makes me laugh when people think that those who got a house are hackers or rmt buyers or reselling lords. Yeah, I’m sure that’s the type of people who bought it... definitely not legit players that got lucky in queues. Whatever helps fuel the bitterness I guess.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

Can you show me where in TOS it stated you are not allowed to resell a house?
All I can recall is Yoshida saying flipping for huge profits is something they don't stand behind. (E3 interview 2016 i believe)

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I talked to a GM recently and they stated they don't take issue with anyone selling their house or their fc, but they DO take issue with someone buying a plot to resell it. I don't have a screenshot unfortunately as I was dead tired and only thought to do so after swapping characters, but of course the convo was gone by then. I was happy to get a non-canned response, but even so the house flipper continues on (and got a nice plot 30 for himself from another flipper) so even speaking to someone ended with as meaningful a result as the canned responses.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I talked to a GM recently and they stated they don't take issue with anyone selling their house or their fc, but they DO take issue with someone buying a plot to resell it. I don't have a screenshot unfortunately as I was dead tired and only thought to do so after swapping characters, but of course the convo was gone by then. I was happy to get a non-canned response, but even so the house flipper continues on (and got a nice plot 30 for himself from another flipper) so even speaking to someone ended with as meaningful a result as the canned responses.

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Seems to me its still a thin line. What if A (seller) bought a plot, build a house then its OK? vs A buy a plot and never build a house and just resell a empty plot?

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

Seems to me its still a thin line. What if A (seller) bought a plot, build a house then its OK? vs A buy a plot and never build a house and just resell a empty plot?

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I only know what they said. Their actions against someone that's flipped probably more than a couple wards worth of houses while constantly being reported tells me either they don't care at all or they only give the Japan region employees the authority/tools to deal with these issues.