So, I just want to thank the group of people I had in Sastasha just now.
I've been playing on my main all week extensively, and I kind of wanted a break, so I switched over to my alt (well, one of them...I have a bit of an alt problem :p), who is a baby level 17 pugilist about to enter Sastasha for the first time. The other three people were a pugilist (like me), a level 60 white mage, and a level 60 paladin. Not only did the level 60 players offer a full clear to give me and the other sprout experience/mapping, they were super nice! I really wish I could have given both of them my comm, because rarely do people ever offer full clears, especially in a low-level dungeon like Sastasha where they just want to get in and get out. I really wish I could encounter more people like these. And the paladin was a mentor! Making fellow mentors proud!
Thank you to all three that were in there with me. After the negativity and drama I encounter in DF/RF/PF, it is really refreshing to meet nice people like you guys!
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10-31-2016, 07:43 PMHyoMinPark
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10-31-2016, 07:43 PMMwynnWhat I do in this Case ... Vote Kick, directly, without Hesistation, even telling that Gladiator to "Git gud". Seriously...Quote:
Originally Posted by vanitaslaughing
In my Opinion this is even Harassement and Hindering the Gameplay of other Players because Gladiator exactly knows this on his own.
Quite Funny, this is not a single case, last Week I encountered two Lv.60 Players with no Job Stone. Justice happened that's all I can say.
If Players hover around Lv.60 and are DPS Classes and pull of 200-300 DPS, this just a No-Go. -
10-31-2016, 08:04 PMCaitlynFFXIV's new players in a nutshell.Quote:
Originally Posted by vanitaslaughing
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10-31-2016, 08:20 PMraelaI direct queued her this weekend to cap scripts.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
"Daughter, be the bearer of my wisdom"
Me: ok, she knocks back on that! *runs right in front of head, eats full force blast*
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10-31-2016, 08:52 PMcammiyou know what, I'm not going to jump on the train and give this guy shit. Best player ever cause say what you will HE MADE IT THERE. Man is a god. Sides you guys are always asking for more ways to play right? BOOM headshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by vanitaslaughing
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10-31-2016, 09:08 PMFluestergras...or at least half the party belongs to the guy's FC which carried him there, did anyone think of this? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by cammi
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10-31-2016, 09:19 PMvanitaslaughing
Well, predictably, the guy did.. chrrm. I was in there as white mage, with a legit newbie white mage as second healer. Adds were chewing on us until our DRK decided to have mercy on the rest of the team and pulled the entire pack. Big ol' dude chewed up the ninja, didn't die before Judgement. Wipe.
I think at this point I just. gave up entirely, we went again. Got past two timestops until we ultimately wiped again because people were dying left and right and left and right - we were all rather. Thrown off by this (newbie WHM lb3'd after Gravitational Anomaly timestop, bc my already hard time dodging this one was just. made worse by the fact there was a Gladiator). I did my darnest best after I got rezzed by that but people were dropping like flies, I seriously just. gave up. It's rare for me to just give up like that.
Vote abandon after the second wipe. I...think it was the second. I was spaced out pretty bad from confusion at that point
That's what my friends and I assumed, considering they were nearly fully in crafted 250 gear they claimed a friend made for them (a quick lodestone check did unveil that indeed most of the gear was made by people from their FC). Not even I have friends who would shove 250 gear at me for free, what the heck?? I'm just... so very baffled that notone of these people told them it was as simple as levelling Conjurer to level 15, not level 60 as they thought....? (Okay, maybe they didn't believe me saying that in there, because I'vegot full 60s other than Blacksmith and Armourer)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluestergras
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10-31-2016, 10:20 PMcammiI'm willing to believe he's that good. cause I'm sick of it always being a bad that everyone makes fun of. I don't care how stupid I sound either, I'm just sick of the toxic tudes all the time. Not saying you're toxic but at the same time, What's wrong with thinking or joking he's THAT good? People need to lighten up. :CQuote:
Originally Posted by Fluestergras
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10-31-2016, 11:12 PMKanitezzPersonally I myself would get a good laugh out of it to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammi
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10-31-2016, 11:16 PMWatachyThing it's impossible to be that good since you have 50% or less of your job toolkit. No stances, less skills and less effectives CD. It's sounds impossible to survive a decent tankbuster or a fight too long., or you're getting carried...Quote:
Originally Posted by cammi
SE should've forced to unlock the job to equip item lvl 30+, so people would be aware of it.
Don't wanna be toxic, it's just my opinion but man ... GLD on A12N, like really ? -
11-01-2016, 12:01 AMAlphaFox
Been seeing it pop up now and then but some people are doing it on purpose just to see how far they can go. I recall a Lancer who wouldn't get his job just to see if he could complete without it. Maybe some stupid fad that is going around but seems more like they are wasting other people's time by under performing on purpose, granted not that it stops other people with jobs.
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11-01-2016, 12:10 AMSpiritMuseI dunno. From vanitaslaughing's story, it doesn't sound like he was actually "that good" and more like he was carried by his FC through everything. Who apparently neglected to tell him the truth about how to unlock Paladin. For some reason. Or it's possible he lied about that. I'm pretty sure at least someone involved was trolling there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammi
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11-01-2016, 12:12 AMHyoMinPark
Alas, for every good mentor, there are twice as many bad ones.
Adventures of my Alt leads me into Copperbell Mines for the first time. For her anyways. I skip the opening cutscene, but I took too long to load in, I suppose, because the healer in the party immediately made a complaint about someone new being in the dungeon (I knew it was about that because the minute the "One of more players are new to this duty" they began cursing and crap. Throughout the entire run, the healer consistently Fluid Aura'd mobs away from me (as in, they would switch to the one I was attack JUST to Fluid Aura it, and then go back to the one they had been previously attacking). Tried to mess me up, I suppose, by telling me incorrect mechanics during boss fights (which I just blatantly ignored). And pulled final boss before I even had the chance to choose "skip cutscene."
No wonder new people never want to speak up in dungeons when they're new, or ask for advice. Because people act like that. The healer's tank friend was no better, spinning mobs around (keep in mind, my alt is a PUGILIST, meaning POSITIONALS), or positioning them so as to make it unnecessarily hard for me to get behind them. People like those two make me sick.
Comm'd the arcanist that was in the party. While they seemed to be semi-afk during some parts, at least they weren't a jerk for no reason. And I'm certain that they were the person who comm'd my alt. Definitely not those other two, who should have their mentor statuses taken away from them. -
11-01-2016, 12:12 AMWatachyIn this case it's a player that "challenge" himself, i can understand that. But for the GLD he was aware that the job exists but got false informations (aka exp CNJ lvl 60) so he ended being a leftover for the party...Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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11-01-2016, 12:22 AMLunaxiaYes, I'm sure that without any oaths, Hallowed Ground, a silencer, half his defence cooldowns and his DPS stance missing, he is a magical GLA.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammi
Or as is more likely the case, a mixture of being carried by his FC and exasperated parties just wanting to finish content got him there.
I'd hardly call it toxic to expect players to at least have the minimum requirement of all their abilities, but this at this point this is just par for the course for DF. "You need to compensate for my deficiencies and if you don't you're a rude/ toxic player!!!" -
11-01-2016, 12:41 AMMysteryswordYou know, I'm fairly certain this actually counts as harassment, and those two should just be banned. Not gonna say anything more, because I'm actually speechless.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
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11-01-2016, 12:47 AMHyoMinParkIf I actually thought a GM would ban them for their behavior, I would report them. But, let's face it. The sad truth is nothing will happen. Except for maybe a "bad adventurer, bad!" slap on the wrist. :/ Really sad the way people react to new players (or players with a beansprout). I'm not even new, but I was too speechless to even say anything. I'm sure they figured it out when I was doing boss mechanics properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterysword
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11-01-2016, 12:54 AMTaranTatsuuchiYou should always report such behavior....Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
If they even only get a 'slap on the wrist' warning, that's still a mark on their record.
Enough marks and it'll add up to harsher penalties. -
11-01-2016, 01:00 AMMwynnIt's true in some cases, I've Reported tons of Players, be it People using Bots to Gather stuff 24/7 and being stacked with other Bots in Mid-Air or ya like the above example.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
The Support generally is a huge thick wall and you clearly need something really bad to happen and than Actions will be taken.
Makes me wonder if they Filter Reports automatically out by some terms... -
11-01-2016, 01:01 AMHyoMinParkI know. I normally do, but I just...I am still very speechless with how that dungeon went. I would have spoken up there (politely, of course), asking them why they kept turning mobs, or why they insisted of Fluid Aura-ing mobs away from a melee, and politely ask them to stop. Or why they told me completely incorrect mechanics. But, probably would have been kicked, and I didn't want to wait another 30 minutes in a DPS queue just to try and progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
Just...such a good run earlier in Sastasha, and then this. Very disheartening. Makes me really feel bad for the new players that wouldn't have known any better. -
11-01-2016, 01:24 AMMysteryswordI don't really agree with this opinion, mainly because I really don't want to believe it, but I can understand why you would feel this way, and god knows I've felt this way plenty of times before. I still say it should be reported, though, because this is seriously a horrific, explicit example of people going out of their way just to harass someone, and do we really want people like that running rampant around the community?Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
Now, as for my story of today, I started queuing for A9 and A10 with a... shall we say, neutral outlook. Because "meh" is the best I can muster after a long day at work, plagued by a chronic illness of mine that tends to flare up sometimes and put me in constant pain. For a while, things were okay. In fact, I'd say they were great. I somehow got 3 comms after the single A9 run I had to do, despite being a lazy horrible BLM who didn't want to DPS on the adds and risk losing Enochian.
A10 was still kind of okay, except I couldn't win a drop to save my life. Of course. On the bright side, I learnt that my casts will randomly interrupt if the target jumps around while I'm casting, apparently. Between this and my growing fatigue from the aforementioned constant pain which is still affecting me, I came down with a bad case of Enochian Dysfunction, in which I could get it up just fine, but I simply couldn't keep it up.
At least I have my drops now. -
11-01-2016, 01:30 AMTaranTatsuuchi
Had a funny for the event instance.
We start up, I hang down at the entrance a bit to see which directions everyone wants to run off...
All three of the other players run up the stairs and attack the first Arhiman they see. >.<; -
11-01-2016, 01:37 AMLelenaLena
Got Sastasha back to back running Mentor Roulette for newbie bonuses on my WHM.
The first dungeon, we had a GLD who did not use flash once during the entire dungeon, and would only focus on a single enemy in each group. This meant that when I healed, I would immediately be tanking the other 1-3 mobs in the group. Also, this GLD had only 300 HP, where most tanks should have 500-600 at that level. He was wearing the lvl 5 dps custom chestpiece (which has no VIT), and two peices of his race's starting gear (Which have no stats period).
I would have given him advice, but he had a lvl 60 Warrior.
Tried vote kicking, but one of the dps was partied with him.
The second run was fine, except for the rogue DPS who constantly ran around in circles while fighting enemies, and use skills randomly. I tried to get him to stand still and use his proper combo, but he didn't respond and continued his face mashing the keyboard. -
11-01-2016, 01:47 AMWatachyThat's some Naruto's spirit aha. Every NIN have done it at least once !Quote:
Originally Posted by LelenaLena
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11-01-2016, 02:06 AMAtoliI will admit to dancing around the opponent randomly a lot, especially since auto-attack hits no matter where I am facing ^^;Quote:
Originally Posted by Watachy
But at least I end up on the right side for my positionals, so it's all fine......right? xD -
11-01-2016, 02:47 AMLumivyory
Earlier I got vote kicked out of Weeping City for... being a decent healer? I honestly don't know.
On the first boss the other healer (WHM, I was an AST) died like 4 times or so along with other people due to many things like going down and dying because both healers are too busy healing people who are up and just looove to stand in the purple thing, or staying close to the center when she does the sand aoe, or looking at her during Fond Affeared and other things that I didn't even see due to being too busy trying to keep the party up. Closer to the end there were 2-3 people left alive in our group so I used LB3 without hesitation and we killed her without another death. People even thanked in the chat for the raise so made me think that it was more than okay that I used LB3.
On Forgall we nearly wiped in less than a minute cuz most of the DPS were too cool to kill adds. Then due to this huge amount of damage (2 adds were not killed), a lot of people died and with some aoe in our faces the tank in our group, the other healer and a few DPS also hugged the ground. I tried what I could to get everyone back up but MT also died so Forgall was having fun running around until we finally wiped.
But then as I finally come back to the arena, buff everyone, Stoneskin the last DPS (cuz WHM decided to cast Stoneskin II on just 3 peeps), I see the message in the chat "Why vote kick?" and realise what's coming.
YUP. I was votekicked. Why, how and other questions will be never answered but my god, I was actually happy to be out of this mess XD
Hope you guys had fun in the rest of this actually Wiping City run :'D
Also thumbs up to Arcus Senilis - probably the only good person in that group, who was the one to ask why the hell they were votekicking.
Still wondering what the reason was but whatev, I got a much nicer group, co-healer and run after that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -
11-01-2016, 03:07 AMAnnah
I only had this happen once (thank God) but a tank kept on running around circles when we were fighting Dotoli Ciloc in Xelphatol. Needless to say this resulted in the melee deaths of the dps a few times.
Politely asked him to stop running around in circle and if you must dodge the tank buster dont run ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BOSS.
Tank got his feelings hurt, banged his head on the keyboard a few times because his response was "SjknlA... AKJLwoid xm,,,*ik"
A couple minutes later he said "if you don't like my skills then leave."
10 seconds later, the vote kick was passed. Dark Knight was no more. Dragoon tanked the rest of the fight perfectly with no deaths. -
11-01-2016, 03:26 AMMalicewolf
Soooo, maybe I shouldn't of drunk ran an Ex roulette. Things went fine (from what I remember) but at the last pull before the last boss, I was large pulling the entire room. I was swapping between defiance and deliverance all dungeon without any issues, but I guess I let one of them suckers pull away. Cause as I ran to behemoth and I hit him in the face once, I noticed the healer was not with us. And a msg in chat saying, "nice tanking". But, the DPS and I got it down to like, 3% hp before he killed me (without a healer, I guess that wasn't bad? Should of holmgang'd, but forgot =\)
So then I said my apologies and told them I was slightly inebriated and didn't notice (slightly may have been an understatement). To which I was met with a "Well then, thanks for queuing ahole". I just simply said "Your Welcome!" but man... 1 death that delayed us maybe 1 extra minute... didn't think i'd get reamed for that. Oh well. Last boss went down before he even summoned behemoth though. So I know i wasn't sucking that bad xD -
11-01-2016, 04:14 AMFrownyAgreed. There's players who purposely do stupid stuff (someone mentioned a Xela tank doing weird spins) where it is pointed out politely but he throws a fit, then there's..... this. Sorry but he's missing so many cooldowns etc. not to mention the raw stats from the soul stone... He was carried. We at least expect people to have their kits with them. If they can't use it effectively most people have few issues going "hey, try this". A12 can be brutal even WITH the right cooldowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
I'm also gonna put the best part in bold as that's 100% true. Big difference between refining your craft and plain not having the right tools. Do you use a hammer on a bolt? No, you use a wrench. -
11-01-2016, 05:35 AMGhishlain
So, had a griefing DRK in A9N normal recently while I was on MCH. Basically didn't share cleaves with the MT PLD on Faust Z. While I know it can be done solo tanked in Normal, the MT ended up dying at 5% and then the WHM died afterwards before we killed it. I believe I was next on the hate table and the DRK made no effort to pick up the boss as far as I can see, though it did die soon afterwards.
I made a comment about how the two tanks are suppose to handle cleaves together to relieve healer strain and I got a snarky comment in return. Shrugging it off, we move onto Refurbisher 0.
Everything is going great until Full Metal Faust pops. The DRK then decides to get hate on the Faust and leave it right there, resulting in a wipe because Faust gets melted by the lava before it dies. I will admit I did make a snarky comment in response to this and the DRK makes a comment about "umadubad" and "stay free noobs" before dropping the party immediately.
http://i.imgur.com/HE83JA2.jpg
We then proceed to 7-man the fight with minor issue.
Though I guess I can't expect much more from a tank with Sophia weapon and having Parry melds in their armour and attitude like that. *Shrugs more*
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11-01-2016, 07:40 PMErsilon
Last night, wife and I did leveling on our mains of SMN and AST with a FC mate's DRK. We get the Vault and a newbie black mage. Things are doing decently until we wipe on the second boss. During the run back, I get a nice little mini-freeze on my computer, and my ping starts to go a little haywire, but nothing unmanageable. We down the boss and get to Charrybutt. I ask if the BLM knows the fight and he tells how he mostly knows what to do because his last group here was a fail group but had made it this far. I give a quick explanation and we go in. Charibert's rotations screw up my lag something fierce, and we get down to one and a half orb left, wipe. Round Two, DRK buddy's helping the BLM kill orbs while I'm teamed up with the wife to kill them; she and I get four down and they only get two, so, wipe. BLM is also complaining about lag, especially around the double row of knights. I tell them I'm going to re log and hope it kills my lagfest, and it does temporarily. Still a wipe, DRK says the DPS is too low, next thing I know, we're getting a greeting from a new BLM. Seeing 30 minutes left on the timer by this point, she asks what happened, and my DRK buddy explains that the sprout BLM's damage was too low for the fight. We proceed to clear it, no problems.
I know that a lot of the stories we get in here are people picking on sprouts, or others defending them, but this guy simply wasn't pulling his weight. I feel bad we didn't get his clear for him, but for a fight like Charibert, everyone in the party needs to give it their all, especially if they're not synced. I didn't check the guy's gear, so I honestly don't know if that was a factor or not. -
11-01-2016, 09:49 PMNestama
Just now, Palace of the Dead Floor 81-90. Had a BLM who had no idea how to BLM at all. For the first few monsters, they would cast Flare, at 100% MP AND without Astral. Told them not to do that and they stopped doing it. From then on, their rotation was mostly Fire III spam, Blizzard III spam and maybe Thunder II spam. I wanted to say something, but... it's late and I just did not have the energy to call them out on their badness.
He's had two tiers to learn the basic level 60 rotation (I'm assuming he started at Floor 51, rather than learn the class from the ground up) and instead chose to stick with a level 38 newbie rotation without even looking at his other abilities, nor watching what the other BLM (me) was doing. -
11-01-2016, 10:00 PMdragonseth07He's probably sub level 40 in the main game, and couldn't figure out how high level BLM plays just from PotD. It's hectic and fast-paced in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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11-02-2016, 12:46 AMKohnaGreystoneI dunno why we're giving this guy such a hard time, he made it to a12 without a job stone...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mwynn
On that note,
I tried this out myself and I'd like to let you all know that no job stone isn't as hard as it sounds. In fact, it's more fun imho. Raging Strikes + B4B + Straight Shot + Internal Release + Berserk on a marauder is like a godsend. -
11-02-2016, 01:29 AMMysterysword
I can dodge everything in A12, everything, except the absolutely unavoidable things like Mega Holy and Temporal Stasis. My #1 cause of death in A12 today: Mega Holy after getting hit with Blazing Scourge, or a Temporal Stasis, and I would've survived Mega Holy if not for the fact that I received no heals after the aforementioned unavoidable attacks. Or healers trying to rely on AoE heals to cover it, but said heals, more often than not, don't reach me because I'm a BLM.
It's also nice how Manaward will actually protect me from most of these attacks as well, but it sucks how long a CD time it has.
Highlights from A12:
- Running to the side to dodge Gravitational Anomaly, and then dying to tankbuster because the tank turned him right in my direction.
- Going into Temporal Stasis while watching Alexander Prime at 1% HP, then right afterwards killing him with a Swiftcast Blizzard IV while on the run.
- All the BRDs who refused to sing Foe Requiem, even in DPS check phases. In fact, there was a BRD who had Mage's Ballad up, throughout every DPS check there was. With 2 BLMs in the party. Watch us cri everytiem.
Despite all that, finally won the last shaft I need for the casting coat. -
11-02-2016, 01:54 AMHyoMinPark
After doing some grinds for the new relic step (already 30/50 and hoping to finish today or tomorrow), started on floors 51-100 for PotD. Got an awesome group for 51-60. And we got so many rages, we were able to rage almost every floor! XD it was great! Having a lot of fun today!
Also had great groups in my roulettes I did before they reset. Everyone is full of positive energy it seems! (At least, the people I run into!) -
11-02-2016, 02:45 AMMaerwenChances are, it might be his gears. I run Vault as either one of 3 healer class and I don't DPS during Charibert fight if party taking too much damage and we don't wipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ersilon
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11-02-2016, 02:55 AMlvlagmarinkYou should also take note that the gladiator doesn't have any other classes unlocked, which means he lacks cross class skills.. it's really a self-imposed challengeQuote:
Originally Posted by KohnaGreystone
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11-02-2016, 04:16 AMJpec07
Cross-posting from the Tanking Horror Stories thread. So this is one that taps on the fears that a lot of nervous tanks entertain.
I'm extremely late to the party when it comes to Weeping City of Mhach. With my FC, we basically skipped most of the 3.3 casual progression because none of us really liked the gear, and real world things kept us away. Now, though, we're playing and very much enjoying 3.4--and we all agreed that Weeping City was worth at least trying for glamour (the gear is very pretty).
We've run it a few times with varying degrees of success, namely because even this late in the game, some people still don't know the mechanics (to be fair, we didn't fully understand them ourselves from MTQCapture's guides until we actually experienced them). After four clears, I decided to try main tanking it. Neither of the other tanks in the group seemed to mind this development, and so we went through the raid. Arachne Eve goes down without a hitch. A few people die on Forgall, but we recover and get it in one shot. Ozma is the smoothest time I've faced that encounter. And then we get to Calofisteri.
Calofisteri, for those who might not have fought her, is a very challenging boss to tank--not because of damage, but because group success hinges on your every decision and move as a tank. Because of Haircut, it's best not to move her around, and while some strats say to turn that side of her away from the raid, that sort of thing puts even more pressure on the tank.
As we approach the fight, people begin discussing the mechanics for the new people. It comes up to see if I should tank it, and people give me their confidence, because we'd gotten through the first three bosses with ease. I'm effectively volunteered on a vote of confidence. And so after a ready check, I countdown and begin. Because of Haircut, I know to keep her in place, and to face her the same direction, so for the first part of the fight, I keep her in the middle, facing due north. Some people are hit by Haircut, but this is on them--the boss is not moving. Everything seems to be going fine.
Until she does her first Depth Charge.
For some reason, my brain lapsed over this mechanic, and I made the rookie mistake of running to her, instead of pulling her back to the center and pointing her north again. But by the time I realize it, she's against the wall, and she's in the phase where she starts casting Haircut again. I do my best to keep her facing one way, and to not move her, but then her bulb AoEs go out. I move to avoid, not realizing she was going to cast Haircut again, and I immediately see the entire platform light up in that telltale orange.
I screamed several profanities in real life, and apologized immediately for my mistake.
And then the group began to tear into me. It wasn't directly at me, but several comments went out about "crappy tanks" and "never had a run like this," and "now what did we learn, folks?". I didn't keep the chat log, but the passive aggressive berating was on a level I haven't seen since I quit WoW. It frankly left me on the verge of tears.
I dropped group, left the game, shut down my computer, and spent the rest of the night a blubbering mess, because I'd messed up, and my single mistake had caused the group to wipe. And playing on my anxiety, they hated me for it. It was the first time since I tanked my first dungeon in WoW that I ever considered putting down the shield and never tanking again.
I recovered after some conversations with friends and a good night's sleep, and I've read quite a few guides on tanking the encounter after the fact, so I've got my confidence back, but that experience jarred me.
Not asking for pity with this, as I made a mistake that wiped the raid, but this is what truly qualifies as a tanking horror story in my mind: a group comprised of graceless, tactless members, who express confidence in you, only to betray you by jumping down your throat for making a single critical rookie mistake on a boss you're still learning. -
11-02-2016, 04:25 AMTaikaHey, thanks for sharing the story and welcome back from your break! :) It's really awful when you make an honest mistake in a responsible role and then people start shredding you apart. I hope other people would step up in that situation and call out that horrible behaviour. This happens very often in this particular fight and it's never the end of the world. And making mistakes is just a part of gaining experience, learning and becoming a better player! I'm glad you're feeling better now and I hope you'll be back tanking the fight in no time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpec07