Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Minali

Certainly noticed the lack of fur patterns and it concerns me a little. I hope the Benchmark will come with stripes and dots and all that stuff because where is the point in playing a "big cats" species when the various fur patterns of all sorts of big cats are not existent? (Even lions have dots at a young age, no excuses there, devs! :P )
It is still early enough to say this might be still in development and therefore they don't show it but not sure how much this would be an actual accurate reason and how much this is me inhaling hopium.

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There's a lack of fangs (sabretooth-like fangs) and whiskers, too.

I like to believe they wanted to make them look as bori- humanoid looking as possible for the presentation to get the most favorable reaction from the audience, and fur patches, fangs and whiskers, and probably the 4th face being more beastly will all appear in the benchmark.




*discretely inhales some hopium*

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I like to believe they wanted to make them look as bori- humanoid looking as possible for the presentation to get the most favorable reaction from the audience, and fur patches, fangs and whiskers, and probably the 4th face being more beastly will all appear in the benchmark.




*discretely inhales some hopium*

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I agree I think they will have more beast like options on release. I am hoping the benchmark is soon. I have a PC but play PS5 maybe they should add the CC benchmark as just that, like the dragons dogma one so players can get a feel for the new update and can have a play around in the CC.

13 April we will have a live letter. If I remember correctly, we might get some previews of some of the new zones.

I hope we might get the Benchmark after the Live Letter! I want to make my female Hrothgar already!


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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

13 April we will have a live letter. If I remember correctly, we might get some previews of some of the new zones.

I hope we might get the Benchmark after the Live Letter! I want to make my female Hrothgar already!


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HOW MUCH I hope so!! Please, Yoshi-P, grant us a revelation of new details and the benchmark. Please Please Please? ȌᴥȌ I can't sit still.
Maybe they will show us some of the new gearsets ingame? Or glam? I wonder if Tataru will sew a new outfit for us. The one that came with Shadowbringers is still amazing. I'm curious what kind of hints about FF9 await us ahead... And music. Maybe there will even be arrangements of those that players loved since 2000!

I am not really sure why folks are concerned about fangs, whiskers and fur patterns. The male Hrothgar reveal, the male models in the trailer and artwork didn't have fur patterns and didn't show off all the facial feature choices either.

This is the same thing. It's easier in a reveal trailer to have the base models shown without any of the customizations. I assure you they are all coming. If the hair can have highlights, so will the fur. I doubt they are going to give fewer features than the males do.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I am not really sure why folks are concerned about fangs, whiskers and fur patterns. The male Hrothgar reveal, the male models in the trailer and artwork didn't have fur patterns and didn't show off all the facial feature choices either.

This is the same thing. It's easier in a reveal trailer to have the base models shown without any of the customizations. I assure you they are all coming. If the hair can have highlights, so will the fur. I doubt they are going to give fewer features than the males do.

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Are we talking about the same trailer here? The Hrothgar announcement trailer from Shadowbringers I found on the official channel absolutely showed fur patterns and fangs. (Though tbf I'm not entirely sure what is meant with whiskers, my Hrothgar doesn't have any, but maybe I just didn't see the option in the character generator.) Not the full range of fur patterns of course, but they had jaguar patterns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l82wTaVhW0

I stand corrected. I am just saying they don't show off all the modifications in reveal trailers. People thinking we are only getting 1/3 of the normal customization options are overreacting.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I stand corrected. I am just saying they don't show off all the modifications in reveal trailers. People thinking we are only getting 1/3 of the normal customization options are overreacting.

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Believe me, I dearly wish for you to be correct in your assumptions. ^^ I am just a bit cautious because when it comes to customization and Hrothgar SE's track record is... mixed. Nevertheless, I'll be very happy when it turns out my concerns are unwarranted.

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Originally Posted by Minali

Believe me, I dearly wish for you to be correct in your assumptions. ^^ I am just a bit cautious because when it comes to customization and Hrothgar SE's track record is... mixed. Nevertheless, I'll be very happy when it turns out my concerns are unwarranted.

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I just need the hair to have highlight options like everyone else. I could deal without the fur, but my signature colors are rust red and peach highlights. So without that, I am not me. If that even makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Minali

Are we talking about the same trailer here? The Hrothgar announcement trailer from Shadowbringers I found on the official channel absolutely showed fur patterns and fangs. (Though tbf I'm not entirely sure what is meant with whiskers, my Hrothgar doesn't have any, but maybe I just didn't see the option in the character generator.) Not the full range of fur patterns of course, but they had jaguar patterns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l82wTaVhW0

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Face 1 (Runar) is the only one with whiskers (the traditional cat ones), while Face 3 (Coeurl) has the Coeurl moustache. Faces 2 and 4 do not have those, but they do have other special features, like face 2 having eyebrows and face 4 having the horn.
I also rewatched the Viera and Hrothgar trailers from the official YT account and noticed the Hrothgar had Fur patterns showing, but their race outfit does expose their back and chest more, making it noticeable. Also when I watched the Female Hrothgar trailer I noticed none have their highlights turned on, all having just the base hair colour (Probably the patterns were at the time not ready). And as much as I wish to have the same patterns as the males, if I learned anything from Au'Ra, Miquo'te and Viera; is that male and female characteristics are similar, but not replicated 1:1. Like the Au'Ra horns being different from male to female, even though they have 4 sets each, Miquo'te ears with the males being slightly different and can have spots, and Vieras with the 4 ears that follow the same idea, but not looking the same (for example the lop ears).
The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I just need the hair to have highlight options like everyone else. I could deal without the fur, but my signature colors are rust red and peach highlights. So without that, I am not me. If that even makes sense.

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I just checked for you and the Racial Hairstyles do not display the Highlights. However, the other Hairstyles do. So you can have your signature colours (They are very lovely BTW), but maybe not on the racial hair. Or at least that is how it is with the males.

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

Face 1 (Runar) is the only one with whiskers (the traditional cat ones), while Face 3 (Coeurl) has the Coeurl moustache. Faces 2 and 4 do not have those, but they do have other special features, like face 2 having eyebrows and face 4 having the horn.
I also rewatched the Viera and Hrothgar trailers from the official YT account and noticed the Hrothgar had Fur patterns showing, but their race outfit does expose their back and chest more, making it noticeable. Also when I watched the Female Hrothgar trailer I noticed none have their highlights turned on, all having just the base hair colour (Probably the patterns were at the time not ready). And as much as I wish to have the same patterns as the males, if I learned anything from Au'Ra, Miquo'te and Viera; is that male and female characteristics are similar, but not replicated 1:1. Like the Au'Ra horns being different from male to female, even though they have 4 sets each, Miquo'te ears with the males being slightly different and can have spots, and Vieras with the 4 ears that follow the same idea, but not looking the same (for example the lop ears).
The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.

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Wuk Lamat seems to have the same "collar" males do, at least judging from her exposed shoulder fluff, and said fluff also appears on the sides of her thighs and ankles, so as you said, maybe they do have fur patterns, but are different than the males.

For Wuk Lamat specifically, my guess is they gave her a "caucasian skin tone" with no patterns to avoid spoilers (even tho it was obvious she was a Hrothgal from the get go), but no idea about why none of the reveal trailer Hrothgals had them either. Could be they're still in development, or could be a deliberate choice, who knows. We can only wait and see.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

For Wuk Lamat specifically, my guess is they gave her a "caucasian skin tone" with no patterns to avoid spoilers

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Seems like a poor way to control spoilers over just giving her some solid legwear as a temporary outfit.

Makes me wonder, did they replace the half-model in that previous cut scene with a full model now that she's been fully revealed? Seems like a silly and pointless thing to do, but it also seems like the kind of thing these devs might do.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Makes me wonder, did they replace the half-model in that previous cut scene with a full model now that she's been fully revealed? Seems like a silly and pointless thing to do, but it also seems like the kind of thing these devs might do.

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Nope, the CS where Wuk gets off the boat is still just her legs. They didn't replace the teaser model with the full one. Only reason why I can tell is because there is no tail or cape in the CS which would show up if the upper body part of the model was used instead. also before you ask this was done on a NG+ not re-watching the UJ.

On another note I hope that they do release the Benchmark shortly after the 14 hour stream. I know I was hoping (but really doubted it would happen) that Pax would of given us a date for the Benchmark and did the showing off at a Live Letter at a later date. At this point they should have the graphics set up (at least for Dawntrail since I know going back to the older expansions and updating those are going to happen during the 7.1-7.5 patches of the expansion) and be focused on the Quality Assurance and Analysis part of the development, so I wouldn't think that "Still working on the Graphics Update" should be an excuse for why the Benchmark wouldn't be able to release this month. Because if they are still working on the graphics with less than 3 months left till launch then they are more then likely behind schedule at this point and going to cause Yoshi-P to breakdown with another existential crisis if they have to delay like they did for Endwalker and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen again.

And then I saw that I had missed two pages of interesting discussions! But I have to admit, I'm very glad to see this topic lively. This is heart warming!

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I just need the hair to have highlight options like everyone else. I could deal without the fur, but my signature colors are rust red and peach highlights. So without that, I am not me. If that even makes sense.

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Ooh, that definitely makes sense. And it's just me, but I love players who have developed a certain style for themselves in character; color palette, figure details, etc. Myself, for example, try to keep moles (will probably replace with similar color spots on the fur) and scratches where I have them. Something like a small but important link between me and my alter ego.

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.

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That was a good analysis, Pip, I appreciate it! Although at first I even thought that got it wrong, and jumped in CC to make sure... that race hairstyles really don't have highlights. :| Can't say I approve, but would guess offhand that during the process of creating shades of the patterns, devs decided to sacrifice highlights, after all finding a way in common ones. Maybe they wanted to leave this state of affairs as a feature... But I, of course, would prefer fair match, like all other races.

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Originally Posted by Nureus

I wouldn't think that "Still working on the Graphics Update" should be an excuse for why the Benchmark wouldn't be able to release this month. Because if they are still working on the graphics with less than 3 months left till launch then they are more then likely behind schedule at this point and going to cause Yoshi-P to breakdown with another existential crisis if they have to delay like they did for Endwalker and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen again.

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Aye, I remember the time before release of Endwalker. Yoshi P looked so sad and exhausted back then. Highly hope this time everything goes as smoothly as clockwork for all of us, players, developers, and developers who are players too!

The FFXIV Twitter just posted a picture earlier of the new zone Yak'Tel! We know this to be the home for Hrothgar and Mamool Ja.
What do you guys think we might get to see there? Will we see a functioning tribe of Hrothgars or will they be acting more like Hyurs (In pairs)? I am so hyped and wanted to share some energy! The 14 hour live is close and I hope we will get a date for the Benchmark!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKo0G_Wa...jpg&name=large

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

The FFXIV Twitter just posted a picture earlier of the new zone Yak'Tel! We know this to be the home for Hrothgar and Mamool Ja.
What do you guys think we might get to see there? Will we see a functioning tribe of Hrothgars or will they be acting more like Hyurs (In pairs)? I am so hyped and wanted to share some energy! The 14 hour live is close and I hope we will get a date for the Benchmark!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKo0G_Wa...jpg&name=large

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Really all just depends how the mapping is or where it's all located.

Unlike other games, XIV really doesn't have a Mapping Community(Mapping Unreleased/New Maps Prior to Their Official Release. Largely Based off of trailers, art, or information dumps/reveals. Occasionally Leaks are used. But still largely Hated in other games. Unless of course, the game has terrible Suppor<Tech Support/Bugs/Exploits/Glitches>)

If Solution 9 Artwork/Screenshots/Videos had actually landmarks/npcs/identifying features. I wouldn't doubt some players would of already mapped out locations.

And that's, even if they can do much before hand.

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From what the art, we see a large "Tower" with a extended ledge. Be it just a pole for the use of hanging objects, or a actual landing zone for Flying/Gliding/Floating Objects.

and Dirt Paths/Bridges heading to a larger community deeper in the Art.

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So far, there really is no Exact or concrete info on how their Society is Overall Spread. (Asides it being a Melting Pot of Multiple Races/Species)

We see alot of Mamoolja in the Main City(Likely the one to have the Marketboard, unless they flip the script. and make Solution or some other location the Endgame Location/MarketBoard City.)

It honestly could just be like Thavnair, with the outer locations having Hrothgar, and mamoolja.

Run Free Rothgals.., RUN FREE

Benchmark starting soon enough. :)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...c3086ec8f7313&

ooooo benchmark coming out earlier than I was expecting 8D

Glad to see the Benchmark but at the same time sad that there is a 26ish hour wait till we can get our hands on it :/

I understand not wanting to release it during the live letter but I wish it would of been a bit sooner than that, oh well at least it's coming out this month rather than some people thinking next month.

Though I am looking forward to what everyone ends up creating for their Hrothgals when we do finally get our hands on it though ^^

SISTERS! OUR TIME IS NIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/06/00/13/53...zoNiS09pGk.jpg




Edit to add: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EJfr9G95t4 <- The Benchmark trailer, it shows quite a lot of Female Hrothgar in the latter part of it.

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

SISTERS! OUR TIME IS NIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/06/00/13/53...zoNiS09pGk.jpg

Edit to add: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EJfr9G95t4 <- The Benchmark trailer, it shows quite a lot of Female Hrothgar in the latter part of it.

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Yeah, you see more of Wuk Lamat as well.
Her and her Hairstyles Glory.

Also War Skill.
(Some even joked that they've added NANOMACHINES to their PurpleThorns/Retaliation Cooldown.)

The Hrothgals in the background of the benchmark trailer look really cool! Can't wait to see the full options and confirm their max height.

they didnt say anything about hrothgar creation being in it, did they?

I assumed that was a given. I recall Hroths and Viera being in the ShB and EW benchmarks

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Originally Posted by Asari5

they didnt say anything about hrothgar creation being in it, did they?

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The new races are always in the benchmark. They could certainly break from tradition for whatever reason but that would be unusual.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

they didnt say anything about hrothgar creation being in it, did they?

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As CidHeiral said, the new races have always been in the benchmark.
Would be wierd to change that now.

There was not a single Hrothgal in the benchmark trailer that wasn't wearing the regular race armor. There is one Hrothgal walking up stairs in the background at 3:23 in the trailer that may have one of the standard ponytail hairstyles, but it may just be a race specific one, It's hard to tell.

As for the character creator, I would like to think they would have said if it WASN'T going to be there. It's been there before, but they did mention it when the Endwalker benchmark was revealed about the male Viera creator being there.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

The new races are always in the benchmark. They could certainly break from tradition for whatever reason but that would be unusual.

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SE changing a pattern happens about as often as me going through a day without being sarcastic.

Well, Yoshi-P said they're not releasing it today because otherwise nobody would watch PLL but be busy with the character creator instead, so this seems there is something interesting to see in there. ;)

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Originally Posted by DrForester

There was not a single Hrothgal in the benchmark trailer that wasn't wearing the regular race armor. There is one Hrothgal walking up stairs in the background at 3:23 in the trailer that may have one of the standard ponytail hairstyles, but it may just be a race specific one, It's hard to tell.

As for the character creator, I would like to think they would have said if it WASN'T going to be there. It's been there before, but they did mention it when the Endwalker benchmark was revealed about the male Viera creator being there.

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Not quite true. There are two Axe wielding Hrothgals that have a red poncho body piece instead of the normal racial gear but yeah most are wearing the racial gear. They can be seen when the camera pans around the WoL talking to the FFXI troll while Wuk and Krile come walking up (don't remember what they are called in XIV so going to just call them trolls since that is what I know the model from in XI :P ).

And yes every time there has been a new race the Benchmark allows for you to create that race, Heavensward Benchmark had the Au Ra, Shadowbringers had the Female Viera and Male Hrothgar, and finally Endawker Benchmark had Male Viera. I think that if you couldn't create a Hrothgal that they would of said so during the live letter. As for why they probably said something about Male Viera creation for the Endwalker Benchmark, they probably knew that Shadowbringers had the biggest influx of players (almost 150% the size of the 2.0 player base) so probably addressing that for the influx.

I wonder what the average amount of time creating everyone is going to spend creating their Hrothgal is going to be ^^' I suspect for me probably a good hour or two... I only know one thing for sure and that is the heterochromia that my character no mater what race always has ^^' The only thing that I hope I can find is the nose scar (The one that goes across or near the bridge of the nose) that I typically use if I can find it for my character ^^' 15 hours is still quite a while to wait T.T but at least it better than waiting another month or so like quite a few people were thinking.

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Originally Posted by Nureus

And yes every time there has been a new race the Benchmark allows for you to create that race, Heavensward Benchmark had the Au Ra, Shadowbringers had the Female Viera and Male Hrothgar, and finally Endawker Benchmark had Male Viera. I think that if you couldn't create a Hrothgal that they would of said so during the live letter. As for why they probably said something about Male Viera creation for the Endwalker Benchmark, they probably knew that Shadowbringers had the biggest influx of players (almost 150% the size of the 2.0 player base) so probably addressing that for the influx.

I wonder what the average amount of time creating everyone is going to spend creating their Hrothgal is going to be ^^' I suspect for me probably a good hour or two... I only know one thing for sure and that is the heterochromia that my character no mater what race always has ^^' The only thing that I hope I can find is the nose scar (The one that goes across or near the bridge of the nose) that I typically use if I can find it for my character ^^' 15 hours is still quite a while to wait T.T but at least it better than waiting another month or so like quite a few people were thinking.

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I know what I'm doing..,
(Asides fine tuning my Main/Alts as much as possible. (If only we could have more than thr limited amount of Character Creation SAVE Slots. PAIN.)

For my main, ima check how the skin interacts.
and see if Pale is finally more lively, if not I'll always have a tan.

As for Rothgals, idk.
Last name is a given, but there is quite many firstnames I can give her.

As for Fur Color/Pattern, I'll just have to see what fits.

I know for sure I don't want a color that washes out in the background(The dullest browns/orange), or something egregiously Highlighted(Massively bright beyond normal means yellow/green)

A Natural/Watery Blue, a Shifting Black/Grey/White(Depending on how either of the three fit with each other. Contrast is Royalty, but if done badly.., ..,)
Red highlights maybe abit much.

[Pink will be way last, as I feel like I'd just be asking.]

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

(If only we could have more than the limited amount of Character Creation SAVE Slots. PAIN.)

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As someone with over two dozen characters and scores of retainers, I feel your pain.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

There was not a single Hrothgal in the benchmark trailer that wasn't wearing the regular race armor. There is one Hrothgal walking up stairs in the background at 3:23 in the trailer that may have one of the standard ponytail hairstyles, but it may just be a race specific one, It's hard to tell.

As for the character creator, I would like to think they would have said if it WASN'T going to be there. It's been there before, but they did mention it when the Endwalker benchmark was revealed about the male Viera creator being there.

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Got one
https://i.imgur.com/mSWKjBC.png

She seems to be copy/pasted 3 times in that scene? (and once more in the hut scene)

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Originally Posted by Nureus

I wonder what the average amount of time creating everyone is going to spend creating their Hrothgal is going to be ^^' I suspect for me probably a good hour or two... I only know one thing for sure and that is the heterochromia that my character no mater what race always has ^^' The only thing that I hope I can find is the nose scar (The one that goes across or near the bridge of the nose) that I typically use if I can find it for my character ^^' 15 hours is still quite a while to wait T.T but at least it better than waiting another month or so like quite a few people were thinking.

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Racial gear or not, has anyone noticed how many there were? It could be that it is just the benchmark, but there were so many Female Hrothgar along with male Hrothgar (who were also mainly wearing their racial gear).
As you said, the benchmark always showcases the new races + some different glamour (if you don't want to go in the cutscene wearing the racial glam.). So if they were to deviate from that, I would think they would have said something.
As for how long it might take me to make my perfect girl? Uh... I would say at the minimum 6 hours. I only know for certain that she will have purple eyes (as do all my characters from any MMO game that lets you customise appearance). I had been playing recently with the males and assuming the females have the same fur colours, then I have gotten a few styles I would love to try. There is a big battle in my heart for my blue-furred/white hair girl and pure white with purple accents girl. So realistically, I might move in the benchmark and only go in the actual game for the events. Until DawnTrail releases ofc.


I will add that if any of my sisters want to share their screenshots, then they should also do it on the "Show your Hrothgar" thread! I will be lurking and liking every single one of these beautiful ladies!

The link for the thread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ur-Hrothgar%21

I'm sure many have already noticed this, but the hairstyles seen in the official art are noticeable in the trailer as well! :>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...77ad4b401edfb&

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Originally Posted by ejunniim

I'm sure many have already noticed this, but the hairstyles seen in the official art are noticeable in the trailer as well! :>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...77ad4b401edfb&

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This makes me so happy!!! My favourite Hairstyle will be available!