Can we please delay Savage?

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

Isn't it wonderful when people reach to ridiculous ends in a shallow attempt to prove a point?

With that note, I'll drop this tangent as it's dumb and I'm tired.

Bumping this because it's a far more productive post than any of mine:

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Running away after being proven wrong isn't a great way to live life. And before you try reaching I am only talking about you claiming Pepsi not raiding with no proof, not the rest of this thread as a whole.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Running away after being proven wrong isn't a great way to live life. And before you try reaching I am only talking about you claiming Pepsi not raiding with no proof, not the rest of this thread as a whole.

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Pst, only reason I used such a lame counter was to prove a point. Reaching is lame. I should have made that clearer.

Oh and also, proven? Pls cite :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

I stopped doing savage after Sephirot. Because it is especially bad if you do not have time to keep a static together, which is harder in this game than any other I've played.
Which I am convinced is a byproduct of how little we need to interact thanks to all the pugging tools at our disposal.
And if you do not pug a piece of content in the first, maybe 5 days, after its release the chance of getting the win alone, much less any drops feels like it halves by the day.
Due to their not being any fresh to the fight pugs and the few that are, are generally just the worst of the worst for some reason.
You also have more people looking for carries and more jumping out after 1 wipe.
Even today while getting clears on an alt doing just normal mode, we had the bane of those who wish to be carried.

It sucks that you need to make the choice between enjoying the lore and the story and all the new content or getting an extreme win without wanting to firmly punt your teammates in the rear.

I would love them to go back to delaying savage by 2 to 3 weeks after a piece of content is released. So you have my support.

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I hate guides, not because they exist, but because I can't seem to enjoy anything blind past the first hour without someone needing to say KNOW X Y AND Z. I rush rush rush and burn through the story much faster than the anticipated longevity because of this and it sucks because I want to enjoy story and battle content both without feeling like if I don't do it immediately, I'll get left in the dust and unable to learn at a more healthy pace.

I support a delay, just because I don't think anyone should have to feel the stress of not being ready and having to blast through several weeks worth of content in less than a day.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

LOL Okay. Clearly you don’t have the ability to have an actual discussion about this. Instead, you opt to attack me instead of actually reading what I’m saying. I don’t know why I thought I could have an adult discussion with you.

It is quite rich that you’re calling me self-entitled though, when your entire argument against this suggestion is that it interferes with what YOU personally want. If I’m being self-entitled, then so are you. Since we’re discussing wants here.



Clearly you don’t understand how jobs function, nor do you care.



Sure.

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LOL I attacked you? If you cant be honest with yourself enough to acknowledge that your static is the reason you cant (watch the eden normal cutscenes) Whats funny is even IF they delayed savage I bet your static would give you enough subconscious guilt to still skip the cutscenes and still complain.

If you had ANY idea what I actually wrote in all of my posts you would see that it has nothing to do with what I want and more about taking choice away. Thats literally what you want. DELAY SAVAGE SO I CAN TAKE A WEEK TO WATCH 5 minutes worth of cutscenes. Who's the entitled one? I just dont want LESS choices, which you cant comprehend apparently.

P.S. Your employer has no place in this argument...thus thats why i say personal problem.

p.s.s Now, go to bed before you lose sleep and come back saying I got you fired.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

LOL I attacked you? If you cant be honest with yourself enough to acknowledge that your static is the reason you cant (watch the eden normal cutscenes) Whats funny is even IF they delayed savage I bet your static would give you enough subconscious guilt to still skip the cutscenes and still complain.

If you had ANY idea what I actually wrote in all of my posts you would see that it has nothing to do with what I want and more about taking choice away. Thats literally what you want. DELAY SAVAGE SO I CAN TAKE A WEEK TO WATCH 5 minutes worth of cutscenes. Who's the entitled one? I just dont want LESS choices, which you cant comprehend apparently.

P.S. Your employer has no place in this argument...thus thats why i say personal problem.

p.s.s Now, go to bed before you lose sleep and come back saying I got you fired.

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There’s literally no reason responding to you if you can’t reply like the adult you claim to be. Have a great evening, dude.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

Whats funny is even IF they delayed savage I bet your static would give you enough subconscious guilt to still skip the cutscenes and still complain.

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Hyo's made some really well explained points, and this is the best you can come back with? These forums really are turning into a cesspit lately.

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P.S. Your employer has no place in this argument...thus thats why i say personal problem.

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Given that many of us are contracted to work when we'd rather be progging, I beg to differ. Not everyone has an easy deal of getting time of work and for many people it needs to be booked a good way in advance.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

There’s literally no reason responding to you if you can’t reply like the adult you claim to be. Have a great evening, dude.

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See im all out of adult sentences at this time. I tried and you just cant comprehend logic and instead want to force your skewed dilusion of who is really at fault here towards me. You do know its your fault you cant enjoy the eden story. Sleep tight

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

Hyo's made some really well explained points, and this is the best you can come back with? These forums really are turning into a cesspit lately.



Given that many of us are contracted to work when we'd rather be progging, I beg to differ. Not everyone has an easy deal of getting time of work and for many people it needs to be booked a good way in advance.

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Truth Hurts

I know how vacation time works. Again, not....my.....problem

I'm not sure where people started thinking that slinging "I HAVE TO WORK" around should generate some kind of sympathy. Welcome to adulthood?

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

I know how vacation time works. Again, not....my.....problem

I'm not sure where people started thinking that slinging "I HAVE TO WORK" around should generate some kind of sympathy. Welcome to adulthood?

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Clearly you don't =/

Between big corps, small family firms and everything in between, some people can find it a struggle to get a specific window off, especially if they can only confirm it a couple of weeks ahead. In my time chasing hardcore prog, I'd say I've had a 50/50 hit rate. Sometimes it wasn't a problem, sometimes either the notice was too late or other people in my team already had it booked.

It's not about sympathy so please drop that one along with the adulthood angle whilst you're at it. It's about being able to hop on as soon as the servers go up.

Oh and before you get all aggressive and angry with me as well. Please keep in mind that my personal opinion is that it should just be locked for a day. I'd just love to be able to take one evening enjoying the story before I jump into the raid grind.

Id like a week delay to
Especially if they keep adding long story quest like 5.2 on new tier patch

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Originally Posted by Barraind

The argument used by those world first raiders you mention is "I dont want to have to make this a priority, so please re-design your launch schedule so I dont have to".

Asking for a week or two of time to prep when other groups and people who also do that content, or have done that content, are saying "you dont need to do this, its fine" is quite literally showcasing a difference in determination in black and white.

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How about "Please keep a similar schedule to what you have for the first tier of Savage."

This is where your argument flaws apart. They already delay Savage. Only the subsequent two tiers are released alongside Normal mode. In fact, the initial release is significantly longer. Eden's Gate didn't release until four weeks after Shadowbringers; nearly five if you pre-ordered for Early Access. An additional two weeks later passed before Savage finally released. Asking they maintain that schedule, albeit a week shorter, isn't "re-design your launch." That statement alone is quite the reach, especially given SE has repeatedly delayed content in the past. Eureka was finished much earlier yet they purposely delayed it because they were concerned with 4.2 having too much content. Even now, the relic weapons are delayed for similar reasons.

There has already been a precedence yet. So lets not pretend a require to delay Savage would be wholly unique.

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Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

That's not true at all. I had two great raiding-evenings this week I wouldn't have had if they had Savage postponed one week.

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Why would this suddenly not happen a week later? Would you magically not enjoy your blind Ramuh prog if it came out on the 25th instead of the 18th? Furthermore, why does a week's delay bother you if you have no aspiration to clear in the first week? Do note I'm not saying clearing several weeks or even months later is a bad thing. You do you. I just fail to see why a week or even a day delay would be such an impact on what I imagine is a more casual minded static.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

Where did I say I want it now? Never once. Just because you cant be an adult and prioritize YOUR time to do things YOU enjoy without some self entitled guilt trip that the game is denying you something. I dont care if your vacation time doesnt line up. and I dont care you feel rushed. Thats on you because you choose to feel that way... sorry

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The highlight parts are where you said it; literally in the very same paragraph.

Your entire argument hinges on you not wanting the delay because you don't care if it bothers anyone else. Your preference is to have Savage immediately. Mine, and several others judging by the response to this thread, is to have Savage delayed. Cool. We both have differing opinions. Now why does your opinion trump anyone else's? If you "don't care" about anyone's position but your own, why should they care about yours?

In layman's terms: we have a simple disagreement. But only you are demanding your argument is correct because you made it.