Realm Reborn = downgrade?

i honestly feel like there were a whole bunch of changes made to this game because of pvp >.> just gonna throw that out there.
i dont have it all listed but the only thing that seems that way and is related to character movement and stuff is how the camera is always behind your character. i dont like that one bit, i prefer my character running freely and my camera separate, not that weird turn when i turn my camera and my character marches in place to match the camera, looks so bad ; ;

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Originally Posted by IveraIvalice

i dont have it all listed but the only thing that seems that way and is related to character movement and stuff is how the camera is always behind your character. i dont like that one bit, i prefer my character running freely and my camera separate, not that weird turn when i turn my camera and my character marches in place to match the camera, looks so bad ; ;

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Hopefully they give us Camera options for this I can't see why they wouldn't...but you never know.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Hopefully they give us Camera options for this I can't see why they wouldn't...but you never know.

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yeah i hope that comes back, thats one thing thats really easy to implement :)
this animation thing should really be something they can do without hindering gameplay at all, and i would love to believe that it will come back at some point (the lost polish animations) but with the confirmation that it was a choice to take them out, and the fact that after 2 big threads on this topic and the majority of players saying they want these animations back and we still got no response about this is worrying me

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Originally Posted by Cer

After going about my business yesterday and taking the time to read every post since I posted, I sort of get why Nemy is so upset, and the others. Those animations were really interesting and did provide a nice, albeit very first world, touch.

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Upset is an accurate word. I don't think anyone in here is raging or blaming or bitching and moaning. Those are words used by those that are in need to create drama, instead of making a civilised response like yours. So thank you for this.

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Originally Posted by Cer

but I will say the stopping does feel awkward to me in current version, while it looks nice, I feel like I have to predict the slowdown of my character and stop prior to the end point. (which is totally logical) Meaning I have to release the key before the point which I want to stop, which i'm used to now, but would be an annoying thing for a new player.

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Hmmm, that might be due to high ping with the server.

If you want to find out, follow the steps.

-Run the game in window mode, so that you can alt-tab
-While the game is running, open up "Resource Monitor" (You can easily find it by typing "resource" in the search, on your Start panel.
-Go to the "Network" tab
-Find FFXIV, and look up the Address (This is the IP of your server)
-Open your Start panel again, and type in the search "cmd" and enter. This will open the Command Prompt.
-In the Command Prompt, simply type "ping 00.000.000.00" (meaning ping, space, and then the IP of your server)
-Press Enter.

What we're looking for, is the "time= ???ms"

This is your ping. If it is around 150-300, it might cause what you're describing.

Also note : Even if your ping is low, in situations where other people are around, or in certain areas or events, (ifrit) you can experience unresponsiveness.

(I'm sorry if i was over-analytical or if you already knew all of this, but some people may don't.)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

But I just feel that, some of these concerns are brought up because 2.0 is taking away from 1.0

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That might be part of the reason. It's one thing if we never had it, taking it away is worse.

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If they forgot 1.0 even existed. I wonder how the comments would be in terms of "What the Quality truly is" and not " They took this away from FFXIV now its going to fail" type attitude.

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I'd be still concerned about the current quality, but 1.0 being non existent, and the whole epic fail at launch being non existent, I'd probably wait till beta.

In our current situation though, I'm being overcautious, simply because I was disappointed badly already. They don't have my trust back yet.

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Originally Posted by Nemy

People like you makes going through all these uneducated posts worthwhile.

Thank you for being in the position to clearly understand what i'm saying i guess.

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You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by Verytus

This is a really big thread with a lot of great content, and I don't want to have to lock it, so help me out on this one. Let's stick to the topic and keep it civilized, please.

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Verytus, and other moderators that might read this, is it possible to change the title of the thread as seen in the general discussion forum to something more specific like "Movement Animation Downgrade in ARR" ? This might help reducing the hostility, since the current one implies ARR as a whole is a downgrade. I apologise for that, and i want to change it.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I do agree that we been spoiled to the point where if 2.0 has something missing all hell will break loose :P. If 2.0 was the Original FFXIV, would we still be here complaints about the animations? That remains a mystery :P.

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I would be, I would be. I complain about gw2 animations~

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Originally Posted by Nemy

Tonkra for the 1000th time :



-We are not, i repeat, NOT talking about Weaponskill animation.

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Some people did...

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-We are talking about a specific set of movement animations that are intentionally missing from 2.0

- Inertia as you stop = missing

- Gaining momentum as you start = missing

- Leaning as you turn = missing

- The whole animation as you turn more than 90 degrees = missing

- Backpedaling = bad
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the whistle animation for chocobo was also missing in the version at Gamescom.. and now was inside the game afterwards.

what does it tell us? its work in progress, as they mentioned also hundred times "we are sorry to show an early version like that, first we did not wanted to show it (better for them they did)" i am sure that you will get back your "stop walking" animation and more details while running.


its so obvious that these are unfinished animations, like others are just spaceholders or not inside yet.. (like calling your chocobo which is inside now). i play MMorpgs since 2001 and have seen so many alphaversions or even pre-alpha.


Dark Age of Camelot as an example... Alpha/pre-alpha status (mostly for concepts and gameplay design):
http://myst.z.free.fr/picz/screens_daoc/alpha01_big.jpg

that what it looked like at release:
http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/gspKz...lbion-daoc.jpg

FFXIV ARR is a complete rebuilt of the game with a new engine and some new animations.

are you really thinking that the team for animations is sleeping till beta phase?
the game is not even in alpha testing phase yet.
people will have the chance to give feedback in alpha and beta as well.


there was even no chocobo animation in the very early phase at gamescom.
So calm down. Its okay if you are worried about it. but i am really sure these animations are not finished yet (as they said many things are in early phase). so go ahead and give your feedback. first of all i disliked the headline very much "ARR = downgrade" which is a slap into the developers faces for investing so much time in redesigning the whole game (Gridania etc.)

i respec their hard work and i am graceful for that.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

are you really thinking that the team for animations is sleeping till beta phase?

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I don't think anyone thinks that but this.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

While the animations were nice, the development team's number one focus in A Realm Reborn is on gameplay so even though they were nice animations, the team made the decision to remove them.

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Is the real concern, they said remove. Not temporary dissable, remove.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Is the real concern, they said remove. Not temporary dissable, remove.

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Well i cant really tell you if i'm going to miss these "tiny" animations till i played it. Because i cant remember even one mmorpg/rpg who has a stoping animation like that (no drama if you ask me) :)

ok its these little things that make a game some kind of special. but i also think its not the most important part. since i think the walking animation itself was not really much different to what we have now (except the stop movement and back walking).. and other things are also so much better than what we have now.