SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

I still say banning 100% of players is the way to go. It's a foolproof method for catching every botter, RMTer, and exploiter, guaranteed. I don't see what could go wrong.

Kill 'em all and let Hydaelyn sort them out?

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Originally Posted by Riko_113

In all likeliness they have been tracking the logs of said players to see HOW they obtain this gil and who they are interacting with. If the logs are showing exploits or regular collaboration with RMTs then of course they would be banned... Get more information, then come back and complain about what you do know...not what you don't.

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I cannot help but be struck by the contradiction.

Quite simply, there is no evidence whatsoever to support your claim. However, there is good reason to believe that crafters with a certain amount of gil were banned, and that magic number has been estimated as a collaborative effort by those who were and those who were not banned. As an active crafter, I know people who have large amounts of gil from plying their trade who have been MIA since the 27th as well. Similarly, I know a few who are intensely wealthy but whose gil is in items, and they were not banned. The correlation is undeniable.

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Originally Posted by Katarina

TLDR: Hyperbole

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Cool conspiracy theories and threats. I think you dropped your tin foil hat on the way out.

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Originally Posted by Atrious

This makes no sense. I just made a statement which is actually true... Want sarcasm l2pnoobmakingmoneyiseasy

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english is not your primary language apparently

See! I knew this would happen! *puts tin foil hat on* People told me I was crazy for thinking SE were gil farmers and it was all a conspiracy! They are now banning/suspending rich players and taking their gil? Coincidence.... I think not :P

I've just been reading some of the post through out the ffxiv community today (reddit, here, BG). I love this game and there are lots of quality of life fixes that need to happen(a faster blacklist feature since you're to lazy/cheap to monitor your servers) and I'm willing to give them time to implement changes. This scares the crap out of me! Look at how SE is handing this PR nightmare. Almost over 50k views and 400 replies and there hasn't been a single response from a SE but they are commenting on stupid vanity crap all day.....wow......

How come we used to hear from Yoshida all the time telling us how he wasn't going to let us down and make sure the XIV lived up to its brand name. Now that the game is released the communication is a fraction of what it was. Some of this stuff is so minor and easy fix but they just continue to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by Cienna

It has been 72+ hours now since the first wave of (temp) bans. I have yet to hear of anyone getting restoration of their account. If they are still investigating, maybe they should have investigated a bit better before the bans. If they are done investigating, I expect a Lodestone announcement proclaiming how many were banned for RMT activities. Right now there seems to be many accounts in limbo.

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In ffxi they would tell howmany users were banned and the amount of gil deleted from the servers after each bann wave

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Originally Posted by Cuban

In ffxi they would tell howmany users were banned and the amount of gil deleted from the servers after each bann wave

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Oooh, it would be awesome if they told us who ^^

I'm interested to know how many RMT salesmen are online sending tells right now. Can anyone get online and comment on how active the salesmen are today?

I can make the WHM Epic base weapon, costs me 1k to make, I sell it for 10k. I sold 20 of those yesterday... IF they're banning based on just Gil that's going to be a pain

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Originally Posted by Delita

I'm interested to know how many RMT salesmen are online sending tells right now. Can anyone get online and comment on how active the salesmen are today?

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I have been averaging about 3 rmt tells an hour, usually was 1 every 90 mins- so it is worse. As for the shout spam, my blist is at 130+ and the past week I have been adding 2-3 new ones a day, that has remained the same since the bans. However I did notice the 2 teleporting rmts in Uldah are gone, so there is that.

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Originally Posted by Kamaru

Almost over 50k views and 400 replies and there hasn't been a single response from a SE but they are commenting on stupid vanity crap all day.....wow......

How come we used to hear from Yoshida all the time telling us how he wasn't going to let us down and make sure the XIV lived up to its brand name. Now that the game is released the communication is a fraction of what it was. Some of this stuff is so minor and easy fix but they just continue to ignore it.

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They probly have nothing to say about it. They messed up, I doubt they will come in to apologize to all of us that got suspended for nothing and restore our game time

The fact they have nothing to say to us after more than 3 days is in my opinion disgraceful.

Don't you understand math at all? 168 hours = 72 hours. Nevermind that Customer Service Specialist Daniel SPECIFICALLY told me that it was 72 hours starting at JP midnight (10am EST) on Saturday and if my account wasn't restored by 10am EST on Tuesday October 1st, to call them back. I have zero faith anymore.

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Originally Posted by BooBaby

Don't you understand math at all? 168 hours = 72 hours. Nevermind that Customer Service Specialist Daniel SPECIFICALLY told me that it was 72 hours starting at JP midnight (10am EST) on Saturday and if my account wasn't restored by 10am EST on Tuesday October 1st, to call them back. I have zero faith anymore.

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Here's what someone reported on reddit:

I just got off the phone with customer support, and they confirmed what /u/CinnaBONNY and /u/SoBlair reported less directly in another thread a bit earlier: 72-hour suspensions for 'suspected RMT activity' that were issued seemingly en masse on Friday did not include weekend hours. As suspensions start at midnight on the first day of the 72-hour period, this means accounts will unlock at earliest Wednesday, October 4.

Got some more news for those suspended!!!! If you had your subscription set up like I did, your about to be charged for it:

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station
http://sqex.to/Msp

Thank you for using the Square Enix Account Management System.
This e-mail has been sent to inform you of a scheduled payment for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn.

Date: 10/06/2013
Payment Method: Credit Card/Debit Card
Service Account Name: FINAL FANTASY XIV 1

To confirm the details of your service account, please proceed to the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station.

Please note that insufficient Crysta or incorrect credit card information will result in the suspension of automatic renewal for your service account.

If you did not request this e-mail, please direct all inquiries to the Square Enix Support Centre.
This e-mail has been sent automatically. Any e-mails sent to this address will not be answered.

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Originally Posted by Aphraell

Got some more news for those suspended!!!! If you had your subscription set up like I did, your about to be charged for it:

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station
http://sqex.to/Msp

Thank you for using the Square Enix Account Management System.
This e-mail has been sent to inform you of a scheduled payment for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn.

Date: 10/06/2013
Payment Method: Credit Card/Debit Card
Service Account Name: FINAL FANTASY XIV 1

To confirm the details of your service account, please proceed to the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station.

Please note that insufficient Crysta or incorrect credit card information will result in the suspension of automatic renewal for your service account.

If you did not request this e-mail, please direct all inquiries to the Square Enix Support Centre.
This e-mail has been sent automatically. Any e-mails sent to this address will not be answered.

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That would probably be your appropriate lawsuit fodder, since you can't change any payment options while under suspension.

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Originally Posted by KevinC

Here's what someone reported on reddit:

I just got off the phone with customer support, and they confirmed what /u/CinnaBONNY and /u/SoBlair reported less directly in another thread a bit earlier: 72-hour suspensions for 'suspected RMT activity' that were issued seemingly en masse on Friday did not include weekend hours. As suspensions start at midnight on the first day of the 72-hour period, this means accounts will unlock at earliest Wednesday, October 4.

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Except the 4th of October is Friday. Are they in the twilight zone....?

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Originally Posted by Cienna

Except the 4th of October is Friday. Are they in the twilight zone....?

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Most likely

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Originally Posted by Cienna

Except the 4th of October is Friday. Are they in the twilight zone....?

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Depends... it is Wednesday, October 4 in 2017. I'm hoping to get this resolved by then. Though if it keeps taking out automatic subscriptions until then(Can't change whilst under suspension) it could get expensive.

Just got my perma-ban by email.

"As your account has been terminated due to a violation, you will be unable to create another FINAL FANTASY XIV service account.
Unfortunately, you have shown yourself to be unwilling to follow the rules of the FINAL FANTASY XIV community. If we find that you have created another FINAL FANTASY XIV service account, we reserve the right to terminate that account as well in our sole discretion."

This must be a hack. I'm a member since 1.0 at launch and have NEVER participated in RMT or anything of the sort. This can't be for real.

Still not heard a word here.

My only contact so far:

"Thank you for contacting the SQUARE ENIX Support Center.

This email has been sent to notify you that your ticket was received and will be responded to within 2 business days (48 hours) of receipt."

Running around with over 8m Gil now, feels good knowing my Gil is worth 250$ instead of 50 to RMTraders.
P.S feigning innocence will not get you unbanned for buying Gil.

Total ignorance, I hope you continue to make lots and lots of gil... see you here next moth.

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Originally Posted by Delita

I'm a member since 1.0 at launch and have NEVER participated in RMT or anything of the sort. This can't be for real.

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If you're legacy it very likely was, I don't think this "banwave" hit anyone but non legacy players.
I'd try to write in.. but well, at the same time I might just give up in your shoes.

What they need to do is fix the RMT instead of tryin to ban people for something they "suspect"

Every single time an MMO company bans players(whether its for hacking, RMT, or exploiting), the forums become a shitstorm of people claiming they were wrongfully banned. They easily garner community support by painting the company as "the man" trying to keep the "little people" down. They spread nothing but FUD until they either give up, or the company relents and lets them off the hook. I've seen this happen in every.single.MMO.

$10 = 1m gil a week ago
$20 = 1m gil a couple days ago
$30 = 1m gil today

Square Enix.... don't relent. Don't let these people off the hook.

So what your saying is:


You have seen this happen before.

People either Quit the game or were Un-Suspended.


Yet despite their accounts being returned to them, you still don't believe anyone can be wrongfully banned?

You can easily gauge someone's maturity once they start saying things like "I've seen this happen in every.single.MMO."...

Your calling my logic terrible?

You were a cheat and lied about it, therefore everyone else must be doing the same? Great logic :S

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Your calling my logic terrible?

You were a cheat and lied about it, therefore everyone else must be doing the same? Great logic :S

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Some people can't comprehend that there are people with more integrity than themselves.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Your calling my logic terrible?

You were a cheat and lied about it, therefore everyone else must be doing the same? Great logic :S

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Everyone else? No. Just the people who were banned. :)

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Originally Posted by Ruminate

Everyone else? No. Just the people who were banned. :)

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Unfortunately due to selfish cheats in games, like yourself it seems, genuine players do get caught in the cross-fire.

RMG exists here because people like yourself want shortcut's and don't wish to play on a level playing field.

It's actually easy to make gil if you know what to farm/craft and how to undercut.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Unfortunately due to selfish cheats in games, like yourself it seems, genuine players do get caught in the cross-fire.

RMG exists here because people like yourself want shortcut's and don't wish to play on a level playing field.

It's actually easy to make gil if you know what to farm/craft and how to undercut.

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FUD, ad hominem, and strawman all in a single post.

/golfclap

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Included in the above are players who used/obtained gil, items, or actions through fraudulent means. Although we are taking the utmost care and attention to prevent such actions, players who discover any confirmed cheats should, under no circumstances, exploit or disseminate such information. Instead, we ask that players file a report by using the in-game command [System Menu] -> [Support Desk] -> [Contact Us] -> [Report Cheating].

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People getting banned doesn't just mean those involved in RMT, it includes people using cheats or hacks, thirdparty software (botting), killing boss monsters that are frozen and taking advantage of other bugs (such as the Titan Bug that was resolved not too long ago).

It's not just RMT.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

People getting banned doesn't just mean those involved in RMT, it includes people using cheats or hacks, thirdparty software (botting), killing boss monsters that are frozen and taking advantage of other bugs (such as the Titan Bug that was resolved not too long ago).

It's not just RMT.

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This probably means the people that killed the bugged out turn 5 boss, but reported it after the fact and then pretty much told everyone probably got the boot too, or maybe not /shrug. Goes to show tho, boss bugs out you better just stop attacking and report using the proper reporting procedures, or else you risk losing everything.

If they got banned I doubt they'd advertise that. lol

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Originally Posted by Curagaja

I have no idea, but if they are just targeting people with a lot of gil, then I'm safe.

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Same here. :|

Uh it actually is VERY easy to make money through farming/crafting...I made a good 200k in a day doing low level crafting/gathering while leveling Mining and Armorsmithing...You can ask just about any DOL DOH players, they make GIL hand over fist if they are actually smart enough to play the market correctly.