Adding Legacy Tattoo to Mog Station

The legacy mark, at least in my eyes, is more than just some lore thing you can buy for 99 cents.

Im sorry, and i know this is rude, but you are trying to roleplay player history.

I would at least like the option of being able to obtain the tattoo considering I played 1.0, bought the Collector's Edition, and supported the game monetarily for a time. I'm basically missing out on a potentially fresh perspective (because the tattoo actually changes the lore somewhat by having your character be revealed as the Warrior of Light before the Calamity.) even though I did everything other 1.0 players did but just not for some three-month period at the end of 1.0.

I'm not saying make it available on the cash shop, but making it available if you have 1.0 character data for that template would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I see it as kind of like the Lightning hairstyle/costumes. We were told "this won't happen again" and then it happened again.

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Not a good example, since we were never told that event wouldn't happen again. At one point, we were told that SE hadn't decided whether to bring it back again or not, and a bunch of players started shouting that that means they never will, which certainly isn't what SE had said.

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Originally Posted by Eisen-Zorn

even though I did everything other 1.0 players did but just not for some three-month period at the end of 1.0.

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This is pretty much what I mean when it was an event thing and not an exclusive 1.0 legacy supporter promise thank you apology thing.

It was an event item, during an event. Pretty much all of the events have been recurring and non-exclusive, I am not sure why this should be any different. It is a significantly game-changing and lore changing detail, not just a mount or a minion, but it literally /changes the story/ and history of your character, in a way that is very exclusive and quite hurtful to new players or returning players that were not online at that specific time due to whatever RL reasons.

Oh please! It is not at all hurtful to new players! The new players character rises to the same prominence as the old. You are still the hero of the age! And the one Eorzea looks to in its current time of need.

There was three months one had to be there to count for Eorzea's final days. You were not there, that does not diminish the newer characters, but you were not there, you weren't created there. Wherever you were during the calamity, it was not in the lines of battle.

And adventurers werent the only ones to survive carteneau either.

I'm not sure how the tattoo can be tied to those events... since there was no MSQ requirement. You could seriously be level 10 have gotten it. You were nowhere near the battle.....

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

I'm not sure how the tattoo can be tied to those events... since there was no MSQ requirement. You could seriously be level 10 have gotten it. You were nowhere near the battle.....

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Exactly, you could have completed the 1.0 storyline, had 1.0 CE and everything but had been on leave during the event time and not have it, or have been level 1 but logged in once and killed nothing but got it.

Hopefully they'll add different types of tattoos and preferably on different locations on the body (as a Xaela male many tattoos don't show). They already have a system in place for it as seen with the Legacy Tattoo. So here's hoping a tattoo shop will be in the works? Maybe somebody should suggest that in the upcoming anniversary special?

As far as I'm concerned, the Chocobo, $9.99/month and having your name in the credits are what the Legacy Campaign specifically offers.

All else are Legacy items which may or may not eventually make it in the gamed later on. After all, now everyone did the last quest for the fisher to get the Star-spangled subligar in 1.0 ... now we can get it for free in game. Or the moonlet ear ring, which was special even in 1.0, so talk about a limited time event in an already limited time of 1.0

If you haven't realized as of yet, the majority of people visiting the forum possess little reading comprehension and react to forum thread titles before reacting to what you are actually saying.

Yes, if you have a legacy account, I don't see any reason why they couldn't offer the tattoo as something you could purchase.

It wasn't about being there for the battle, it was about being there at all. As many have said, they have the tattoo and only played 1.0 during it's time without a subscription. They were there. And I think the point was missed about the fan fest in that there was more to it than just early release Square Store goods and a suit. I said fan fests, as in all the ones I've missed. Including the XI fan fests, when there was no cash shop to speak of. People who attended the XIV venues were able to challenge the primals and, if successful, get the, "I defeated ___" shirts. I will never have one of those shirts. I never got the Moogle Wand or Moogle Shield from the XI fan fests. Yet I'm not moaning over how not having them is ruining my life. Move on, there will be more exclusives in the future you can try for. All you have to do is keep up with the game.

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Originally Posted by Titor

For me the reason I want it is due to the lore difference. While I the meta player did not know of or play 1.0, my character did exist in hydaelyn at the time (He would have to have, to be the age he is). I would like to play a character that had been at the past events, I like those events for immersion and the story, plus I roleplay a character from that time period. I wish that we could choose where we wanted our characters to be for immersive purposes. It is not really good to limit an entire storyline and character experience to simply those who knew about and had the funds to play 1.0.

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There are, I believe, a few slight changes in cutscenes if you have it, but not in the lore of the main storyline. Your character was at Carteneau regardless. Cid and the Wandering Minstrel both recognize you as one of the original Warriors of Light from that time whether you have a legacy mark or not (as well as lots of other hints towards that fact from others). Those of us who didn't start the game until ARR got that part of the lore simply as backstory of where our character was before the game began rather than getting to play through that part of the story, but it's still a part of FFXIV lore either way.

They should def add some tattoos. I personally think the legacy tattoo looks kind of dumb but to each their own I guess.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I will never have one of those shirts.

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I am sure if you throw your money hard enough at someone, you can get one of those shirts. Heck you could probably make one for yourself. And I did not play XI, but exclusivity is a thing of the past. Everyone should have an opportunity to obtain everything in an MMO environment, there is no reason to limit players. Even if it is a grind, even if it is a long time goal, even if it is incredibly gated, just having the option to be able to work towards it is nice.

Does it 'ruin your accomplishments' of logging on during a timeframe? Not really. If you were truly there to support SE you would have supported them whether or not you got any benefits.
I had the animal liege gear on PvP before rank restrictions are removed. Does it ruin my achievement? Not really, I realized there was things I could work forward to in the future and I got to enjoy the animal gear for quite some time as a 'status symbol'
I had a relic weapon, they are really easy to get now. Did it ruin my achievement? Not really. I was able to enjoy the best weapon in the game and a cool glamour for quite some time.
I had past event items that are now in the cash shop. Did it ruin my achievement? Not really, I attained them for free and had them before everyone else.
I was a 4 star crafter, but now 4 star crafts are easy to make. Did it ruin my achievement? Nah, I made a lot of gil when it was relevant.

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Originally Posted by Titor

I was a 4 star crafter, but now 4 star crafts are easy to make. Did it ruin my achievement? Nah, I made a lot of gil when it was relevant.

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Thing is, you can still make those 4 star crafts so it's not really an apt analogy. And it's not really about the achievement, it's about having been there. You can't really compare a postcard of the Grand Canyon to actually being at the Grand Canyon. In asking to have the specific tattoo despite having never played 1.0 you're effectively asking for the postcard to be the place it's extolling.

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Originally Posted by Titor

Really it is a event item with a cool storyline, but if we look at it from a solidified lore perspective, the cases I stated above would contradict it. I would very much like to play my character as having experienced 1.0 events, even if I the player did not have the opportunity to be there.

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Your character was definitely around, he just wasn't sent away by Louisoix. There's plenty of really good RP opportunity to be had from living through the 5 years after the Calamity rather than just disappearing.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Thing is, you can still make those 4 star crafts so it's not really an apt analogy.

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You will still have your tattoo. No one is taking it from you. And technically removing the pvp requirement from the animal gear is very similar, the people can now have the item without the grind, the 'experience', the time spent, whatever you want to call it. A lot of people were there but did not get it, and a lot of people wished they could get it but could not, and some people barely played for even a few minutes and have it.

A lot of the people in this forum are trying to find specialness and meaning where there is none. The reduced sub, the name in credits, and the legacy bo mean something. Logging in at a specific time does not.

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Originally Posted by Titor

You will still have your tattoo. No one is taking it from you. And technically removing the pvp requirement from the animal gear is very similar, the people can now have the item without the grind, the 'experience', the time spent, whatever you want to call it. A lot of people were there but did not get it, and a lot of people wished they could get it but could not, and some people barely played for even a few minutes and have it.

A lot of the people in this forum are trying to find specialness and meaning where there is none. The reduced sub, the name in credits, and the legacy bo mean something. Logging in at a specific time does not.

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Participation means something. There was more than enough advertisment going around that this was a event unique to 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Participation is everything

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I would consider being willing to spend money in a cash shop and/or do a quest chain in game to be participation.

Wouldnt really have an issue with this, I always support more customization and vanity options for as many people as possible.

To appease the majority and still somewhat appeal to the legacy players, possibly add a whole bunch of different ones then, in varying colors , styles and body placements could be a good thing too. idk.

(still waiting on some high heels btw se......)

Well sorry, you cannot (and frankly should not) buy the mark and status. It was unique to the campaign at the time of 1.0's final days. the only hurts you feel you gave yourself.

I take it you want a digit taken off your current gil, too?

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Originally Posted by Titor

Honestly if it would get me the tattoo through a gil sink I would be willing to spend all my gil, for it yes.

I currently have enough gil to buy a grade 1 large house on my server at full price, if that puts any perspective on the situation.

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Honestly I don't care what you are willing to pay.

You are asking for a history rewrite so you can pretend to have a status. You are not a legacy character.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I take it you want a digit taken off your current gil, too?

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Honestly if it would get me the tattoo through a gil sink I would be willing to spend all my gil, for it yes.

I currently have enough gil to buy a grade 1 large house on my server at full price, if that puts any perspective on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Well sorry, you cannot (and frankly should not) buy the mark and status. It was unique to the campaign at the time of 1.0's final days. the only hurts you feel you gave yourself.

I take it you want a digit taken off your current gil, too?

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do they even have enough gil to feel the pain ?

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Originally Posted by Titor

Honestly if it would get me the tattoo through a gil sink I would be willing to spend all my gil, for it yes.

I currently have enough gil to buy a grade 1 large house on my server at full price, if that puts any perspective on the situation.

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titor, you need to come up with something new, you had repeat your points 3 times in one thread.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

titor, you need to come up with something new, you had repeat your points 3 times in one thread. You were not there

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This argument is invalid since there are items on the cash shop for which people were not there for. The past summer events, the valentines events, even the new years events (Which seem more 'time sensitive' in terms of what animal is for the year), the moon earring even, which was for an event to celebrate the hunters moon, is not even relevant anymore since Dalamud fall and the Hunter's moon event is no longer celebrated.

Whether you want to admit or not, SE is willing to be fair and offer items for people who missed out on events due to whatever RL situations, even if they the player were not "there"

The log in campaign event was nothing more than an event. no matter how much false importance and 'I support the game more!' you want to throw on it.

It was an event.


You had to log in.

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Originally Posted by Titor

This argument is invalid since there are items on the cash shop for which people were not there for. The past summer events, the valentines events, even the new years events (Which seem more 'time sensitive' in terms of what animal is for the year), the moon earring even, which was for an event to celebrate the hunters moon, is not even relevant anymore since Dalamud fall and the Hunter's moon event is no longer celebrated.

Whether you want to admit or not, SE is willing to be fair and offer items for people who missed out on events due to whatever RL situations, even if they the player were not "there"

The log in campaign event was nothing more than an event. no matter how much false importance and 'I support the game more!' you want to throw on it.

It was an event.


You had to log in.

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3 times you repeat your circumstance (in same thread and I count from your discussion with me), 1 of those time ppl told you your circumstance does not matter, you missed it and you were not there and now you repeat it again. And the quote above is also repeat the same point again and again

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Originally Posted by Titor

It would be one thing it players were politely against it, but they are acting like small children being asked to share a toy and throwing a tantrum

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and this is what you said in this thread

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Normally events repeat in videogames, even if it takes some time, it eventually repeats.

I am willing to:

Pay extra real life money
Spend 90m+ gil
Do a quest line
Do some sort of grind to earn it


You were lucky enough to get it by simply logging in, something that pretty much everyone that plays the game does everyday. I am willing to work for it and spend resources to earn it now.

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Originally Posted by Titor

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It's not really luck if we knew about the event and you didn't. It just means you missed out and weren't there. There is nothing you can do. It doesn't matter how much you offer or how much you beg. The reality is: It's over. It has been over for years. Too bad.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

... repeat the same point again and again

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If so, then why have you still not seen what his point is? You've quite persistently chosen to ignore it entirely.

It is not being spoiled. It is being fair to those that participated in the legacy campaign, which, as stated when it was introduced, had an event that literally CANNOT happen again.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

If so, then why have you still not seen what his point is? You've quite persistently chosen to ignore it entirely.

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so you mean I have to agree with him ?

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Originally Posted by Titor

Normally events repeat in videogames, even if it takes some time, it eventually repeats.

I am willing to:

Pay extra real life money
Spend 90m+ gil
Do a quest line
Do some sort of grind to earn it


You were lucky enough to get it by simply logging in, something that pretty much everyone that plays the game does everyday. I am willing to work for it and spend resources to earn it now.

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Please just stop. Look I get it ok you like to role play your self as this that's fine. But you using this reason stating you want it because you role play this. Its insulting I don't know about others but I sure as hell didn't just made a character and sat on my a?? Waiting for the moon to crash I did stuff. I did every event did every story quest.

Your not going to win here you already see that pretty much every one is against it they'd like other tattoos to have fine.

But not our mark. So please just stop.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I did every event did every story quest.

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See this is why I literally have to keep repeating myself. You got the tattoo for logging in. You did not have to do quests. You did not have to pay money. You did not have to be over a certain level, or go to a certain place.
You logged on during an event, that is why you got the tattoo.
There are level 1s with the tattoo who did not do anything. There are probably RMT bots that qualify for that tattoo.

You did the quests? Great. That is not why you have the tattoo.

You have people that had preordered with CE and played for a while but do not have it for not logging in at the right time.

The tattoo was from LOGGING ON

Past event items are in the cash shop even if they were from events from years ago.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

so you mean I have to agree with him ?

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No, just that if you're going to disagree with him, you should do so rather than arguing about whether he's repeating his point. At least he has a meaningful point to repeat, which is more than your last few posts were adding.

If you think the legacy campaign should be treated differently than the other events he compared it to, then state why you think it should be different. So far, people just keep saying it was an event (which actually backs up his position rather than the opposing one, since he's comparing it to other similar special events and asking for it to be treated the same).

What about CB tatoos, SE?? Yall forgot about us players that played this game before planet earth did @_@

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Originally Posted by Titor

Past event items are in the cash shop even if they were from events from years ago.

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Hey guess what it's not an item your right. Which is why it will not go into the cash shop. That chapter of the game is done with its not coming back.

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Originally Posted by Titor

There is nothing at the fantest that was fanfest exclusive. The ingame codes were available for the masses to buy on twitch, and will likely be available again in the future. The various plushies and books are sold on the SE store, and I am quite sure if you really wanted the fluff items in the fanfest goodiebags you would be able to purchase them on one of many websites.

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There wasn't? Point me in the direction where I can buy a I beat primal tshirt then and don't mean from some guy on ebay.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

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Because the legacy campaign (and thus the end of 1.0) was a "One Time Only" event. It was advertised as such. The other events were only advertised as "Seasonal" events.

When it comes to one time only, it means once. Forever. They did that on purpose to give legacy players something meaningful for playing 1.0. If you didn't play 1.0, you simply didn't get the rewards that come from it. No matter how much you try to emulate 1.0, you can't play the real 1.0 and thus the entire meaning of the rewards cannot be obtained anymore.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Hey guess what it's not an item your right. Which is why it will not go into the cash shop. That chapter of the game is done with its not coming back.

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Alright. Past event /things/

We got the bombdance, that is not an item.

Also can anyone cite these promises? The only ones that I can find online in archives state nothing about one time only, just that players will receive it if certain conditions are met.

Not talking about the full campaign with the credits and lower sub, mind you, but just the tattoo.

Also, for the primal shirts, Like I said, you can make one or buy it off someone. A quick google search shows a few places.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

No, just that if you're going to disagree with him, you should do so rather than arguing about whether he's repeating his point. At least he has a meaningful point to repeat, which is more than your last few posts were adding.

If you think the legacy campaign should be treated differently than the other events he compared it to, then state why you think it should be different. So far, people just keep saying it was an event (which actually backs up his position rather than the opposing one, since he's comparing it to other similar special events and asking for it to be treated the same).

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I did, twice. And I am not going to repeat myself again, right after I point out he repeat himself 3 times, right ? I know his point, he simple keep repeat himself, words different but they are always : legacy tatoo is free, legacy tatoo have no effort to get and therefore he should get it, and its always about he dont know 1.0 exist and that s how he miss. Am i miss anything else ?

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

3 times you repeat your circumstance (in same thread and I count from your discussion with me), 1 of those time ppl told you your circumstance does not matter, you missed it and you were not there and now you repeat it again. And the quote above is also repeat the same point again and again

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Originally Posted by Titor

Tattoo

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Considering you can't play 1.0 anymore, that version of the game is a "One time only" version. It won't come back anymore because the game was expanded upon and updated. The only way you can play 1.0 now is through private servers (which isn't official and not under SE's control).

Since your argument is we only got the tattoo for logging onto 1.0, 1.0 isn't around anymore. It is non existent so you can't get the tattoo.

So, if I'm reading these replies right, too bad so sad on me for not subscribing for those last few months despite "supporting" the game monetarily before that period.

I'm not asking for your tattoos to be taken away. I just want to be able to acknowledge that my hero existed before The Calamity.