100% PDT for PET is plain BS.

[Korpg]

Oh ya because taking 0 DMG from 60,000 needle is 'working as intended'. Ya right, as it been said in early post, even Ochain that is imo super broken too, you still take DMG bc #1 is not 100% block rate and #2 is not 100% dmg reduction.

If you can't find how is not right, i am sorry but i can't help you there.

Wait, so you want everyone to suck as much as you then? If you can't do stuff a BST or SMN can, they must be nerfed to the point of being equal level of killing ability as you?

Sounds like somebody is BST envy here.

[Ilax]

Wait, so you want everyone to suck as much as you then? If you can't do stuff a BST or SMN can, they must be nerfed to the point of being equal level of killing ability as you?

Sounds like somebody is BST envy here.

Again you got me wrong, when we use BST we do it differently, we don't use BST to c%%k block ppl in abyssea for 60~90 min long. But yes we do use BST to tank NM and trigger/kill in 5~10 min that been said in previous post but i guess you probably too busy to read only what you wan and post this again me.

Stop feel b##t hurt and see the problem in face, -100% PDT, fair it is? Then it is fair for all other 19 job, is not fair? then nerf it as DEV did for other 19job. How this is so hard to understand? As i said if BST absolutly need -100% PDT to win again a NM there a major problem, and should maybe look for another job or play world of warcrap, but hey that just my opinion at this point, and sorry if i hurt your feeling with this comment.

[Ilax]

Again you think i even going to bother spend the 'Oh WOW, 3 day investment' to get the -100% PDT and feel special to c@#k block everyone? I have more sense then that, of course SE will end to nerf it, if they don't then just more people will solo NM for 60~90min pissing off everyone.

[Korpg]

Seriously don't even say how you need be a skilled player to kick Snarl on hate reset, and eat popcorn while your PET get 0 dmg, oh and call another PET because he expired since you take too long to kill.

Do we know that pets get 100% PDT reduction or are you just assuming they do since they can possibly get it down that low?

[Ilax]

Do we know that pets get 100% PDT reduction or are you just assuming they do since they can possibly get it down that low?

it is -100% PDT, have 60 minute log to prove it... 0 dmg spam for 60 min long on hell scissors, death scissors, Crit hit for 0, normal hit for 0.

[Korpg]

Again you got me wrong, when we use BST we do it differently, we don't use BST to c%%k block ppl in abyssea for 60~90 min long. But yes we do use BST to tank NM and trigger/kill in 5~10 min that been said in previous post but i guess you probably too busy to read only what you wan and post this again me.

Stop feel b##t hurt and see the problem in face, -100% PDT, fair it is? Then it is fair for all other 19 job, is not fair? then nerf it as DEV did for other 19job. How this is so hard to understand? As i said if BST absolutly need -100% PDT to win again a NM there a major problem, and should maybe look for another job or play world of warcrap, but hey that just my opinion at this point, and sorry if i hurt your feeling with this comment.

But having -87.5% damage taken from one atma alone is fair, right? Without any gear to reduce it any further? Having a second atma that gives +20 regen to the pet would do the same thing as doing -100% PDT taken. So, I can do the "same" thing to you as I do soloing my mobs.

Except, I'm SMN, not BST. You are basically accusing me of doing the same thing BSTs do. Except, I don't hold NMs, and I doubt the BSTs do either. If any BST with 90% DT reduction in gear/atmas are having trouble with NMs with one pet and Reward, then that is just sad. Yeah it will take a while to kill the NMs, but you know what, that is what we do. Stop telling everyone that you don't like the fact that 3 jobs can do something by themselves that you can't do by yourself, and you want SE to nerf those 3 jobs down to your level so they would become useless to do anything by themselves.

Because that is just selfish, if you ask me.

[Korpg]

it is -100% PDT, have 60 minute log to prove it... 0 dmg spam for 60 min long on hell scissors, death scissors, Crit hit for 0, normal hit for 0.

post a link to it.

[Ilax]

But having -87.5% damage taken from one atma alone is fair, right? Without any gear to reduce it any further? Having a second atma that gives +20 regen to the pet would do the same thing as doing -100% PDT taken. So, I can do the "same" thing to you as I do soloing my mobs.

Except, I'm SMN, not BST. You are basically accusing me of doing the same thing BSTs do. Except, I don't hold NMs, and I doubt the BSTs do either. If any BST with 90% DT reduction in gear/atmas are having trouble with NMs with one pet and Reward, then that is just sad. Yeah it will take a while to kill the NMs, but you know what, that is what we do. Stop telling everyone that you don't like the fact that 3 jobs can do something by themselves that you can't do by yourself, and you want SE to nerf those 3 jobs down to your level so they would become useless to do anything by themselves.

Because that is just selfish, if you ask me.

they can limit they PDT to 85% idc if they get Regen atma, savior atma and they still able to do it, but ffs not -100% PDT, there some NM in game like that cactus that can do up to 60,000 dmg, you think is fair a PET take 0/60,000 dmg? Broken is broken. Your SMN don't ahve anymore -100% PDT, are you still able play the job and kill NM? I am sure the answer is yes, then there no real argument to not nerf BST job.

[Korpg]

they can limit they PDT to 85% idc if they get Regen atma, savior atma and they still able to do it, but ffs not -100% PDT, there some NM in game like that cactus that can do up to 60,000 dmg, you think is fair a PET take 0/60,000 dmg? Broken is broken. Your SMN don't ahve anymore -100% PDT, are you still able play the job and kill NM? I am sure the answer is yes,

Are you sure that if that NM does 60k needles (which NM are you talking about anyway?) the pet will still take 0 damage? Have you seen that, or are you just assuming that?

As for the SMN comment, I basically HAVE 100% damage reduction. I have killed many NMs without the use of any healing move or item towards my avatar. And after the kill, my avatar still has 99~100% HP. You think thats fair, but BST having the same thing is unfair? If you "request" SE to nerf the pet PDT down to -87.5% like SMNs, guess what. BSTs will have to change their RR atma to Mounted Champion. Then it will take longer to kill anything. Really good solution if you ask me.

then there no real argument to not nerf BST job.

If there is no real argument to not nerf BST job, then why is most everyone arguing against you?

[Greatguardian]

Are you sure that if that NM does 60k needles (which NM are you talking about anyway?) the pet will still take 0 damage? Have you seen that, or are you just assuming that?

They take 0 damage.

As for the SMN comment, I basically HAVE 100% damage reduction. I have killed many NMs without the use of any healing move or item towards my avatar. And after the kill, my avatar still has 99~100% HP. You think thats fair, but BST having the same thing is unfair? If you "request" SE to nerf the pet PDT down to -87.5% like SMNs, guess what. BSTs will have to change their RR atma to Mounted Champion. Then it will take longer to kill anything. Really good solution if you ask me.

If there is no real argument to not nerf BST job, then why is most everyone arguing against you?

Cockblocking is annoying, but there is a huge difference in principle between taking 0 damage and taking 12.5% damage with regen atmas.

Red mage casting Phalanx and tanking 500 mandies for 1-2 damage a hit? Totally fine.

Beastmaster taking 0 damage from 60,000 Needles? Problem.

I don't envy Bsts. I don't pity them either. As Cyr demonstrated earlier, a fair amount of "Bst hate" is caused by the Bst themselves. However, there is most definitely a difference between taking reduced damage and taking zero damage. The latter is most likely an oversight.

inb4 Beastmasters spam every job subforum and General with a 10 paragraph letter to the producers about how nerfing 100%PDT has killed the job and nobody replies to it outside the Bst forum (sup PUP).