The Decline of FFXI: Forums, Gameplay and Nostalgia

[Akujima]

... So leveling up?

Then I have good news, now instead of killing colibri from 37~75 in level sync you can now solo/duo/trio rather easily to 75!

Umm, actually I did like Level Sync alot. And no, I don't follow a rigid mentality of "the quicker the better". Because if the quicker way was also mind numbingly boring, I didn't go there. Besides. That whole train of thought is kind of whacky to me. Keep that up and pretty soon we'll be hearing about how long it takes to EXP in Abyssea........

But it looks like SE had to accommodate this mentality and create a long drawn out constant grind, in order to get something done. Not to mention the grind consists of "Barcode quests" (Trial #2123, Trial #504!.. how exciting?) that lack any storyline whatsoever. And to boot, are fairly simple battles and/or quests.

But, if you enjoy that style of play, just don't get upset when not everyone agrees with it.

[Leonlionheart]

Umm, actually I did like Level Sync alot. And no, I don't follow a rigid mentality of "the quicker the better". Because if the quicker way was also mind numbingly boring, I didn't go there. Besides. That whole train of thought is kind of whacky to me. Keep that up and pretty soon we'll be hearing about how long it takes to EXP in Abyssea........

But it looks like SE had to accommodate this mentality and create a long drawn out constant grind, in order to get something done. Not to mention the grind consists of "Barcode quests" (Trial #2123, Trial #504!.. how exciting?) that lack any storyline whatsoever. And to boot, are fairly simple battles and/or quests.

But, if you enjoy that style of play, just don't get upset when not everyone agrees with it.

I have no idea what game you are playing where killing 500 bats in Garlaige citadel to get from level 48~49 is any different than ToM? If you didn't level up like everyone else did than I'd love to hear your method.

EDIT: For the record I think that ToM is mega retarded.

[Anewie]

Agreed, if FFXIV is anything like FFXI, We'll go to FFXIV it in 7 Years when its actually playable riding the tide of Q_Q tears from those who think its ruined because its too casual, even though in reality its more fun, accessible and enjoyable than before, its just people have been playing it for 7 years and it no longer excites them like it used to, so they try to find things to scapegoat their blame on.

See you guys on FFXIV in 7 years ;O

Those are your opinions. It only highlights my point you're not really any better than an elitist jerk who goes around taunting and making fun of people, because they can do things and enjoy doing things and having things, others don't.

I'm from asura as well. I could say you're totally bsing saying their are shouts for shinryus and ranis w.o brews consistantly, when that's not true at all. I could say you were just a whiney noob who didn't enjoy old ffxi because your main job was drg and you couldn't be bothered to do anything outside duo/trio. I could say you were so terrible, no einherjar ls would accept you and because you had to be told every 5 minutes to pass cells, no salvage ls would keep you either.

I just checked your ffxiah profile.. and I could say alot but its to be expected.

I'm sorry to say :O! Not everyone is like you. Snarkyness aside, I've never seen a non brew shinryu in the hours i've been on. The game was always accessable for me. You're not me though, and I understand your interests aren't the same as mine.

I do have one question though, what exactly about FFXI was so inaccessable to you? We already talked about kings, which were obselete since odin. I'm really curious what so hard about this game for you? I can understand trash drop rates or long spawns. None of that is "hard" or "stressful" to me though ; ;

Again, everyone is different and plays differently. Those things didn't stress me out. I'm sorry if they did you. Just a video game though^^. Why would you continue playing a game that was stressful or too hard for you?o.O

You made a comment before about how progressively more angry my posts seem. Allow me to comment on yours and how progressively snarky you're trying to be. You seem content with starting an argument with me. Unless you have something new to add, my opinions not changing and neither is yours. If I wanna post in a thread here on the forums, thats my business. You seem to care though!

No idea why !

[Ravenmore]

Anewie you have never seen a non-brewed rani really lol. I seen them all the time. What you don't see is shouts for them i'll call some BS on that or that they won't win. Many LSs or small group of friends that have a clue can kill raja/rani with out a brew. sorry didn't really read all of your post but same cqan be said pick ups most likey couldnt win shin with out a brew but close nit group of friends could. Its really easy to kill if you don't heal it as well as easy to fail even if you brew.

[Wenceslao]

Well i think we are receiving many changes in so short time, many of us we still don't get, and many of us maybe will accept with more easy than others, the point is many players feels that its not necessary come with big updates with new areas, harder mobs, or more challenging content, what many of us want its a game enjoyable, many players (at least in Ramuh server), feels the game has lost something important, imo allowing us to change color to a wyvern, to revamp ballista, garrison, dynamis, limbus, BCNM and crafting activities its more important that adding me new abyss-like content, maybe i'm nostalgic, maybe i'm so old-fashioned but that was the part i enjoyed most, an first i was dissapointed with the new method for dynamis, but as time passed and i kept reading about how they were changing it, give me hope, i may not be doing Voidwatch or whatever is named, but i assure i'll find another interesting thing to do, i just hope SE listen all our suggestions and gradually (when the time and funds allows them) implement them to give us a better experience.

[Anewie]

Anewie you have never seen a non-brewed rani really lol. I seen them all the time. What you don't see is shouts for them i'll call some BS on that or that they won't win. Many LSs or small group of friends that have a clue can kill raja/rani with out a brew. sorry didn't really read all of your post but same cqan be said pick ups most likey couldnt win shin with out a brew but close nit group of friends could. Its really easy to kill if you don't heal it as well as easy to fail even if you brew.

Yeah, my playtime has been gimped down a lot recently. I only have casual gametime now. From what I've seen when I'm on, everyone is like "RANI DO YOU NEED HAVE! RING RESERVED! X2 BREW" ETC.

Just a note to all people, I am really not against the game atm. Unlike some people (cough), I'm all for catering to casuals. But let me ask you this, remember the days when SE only catered to elite players? How did that make you feel? It probably irritated you. Well now is a different scenario. I find it funny, I personally have been very supportive of catering to casuals. I just didn't think my groups would be completley left in the dust forever.

The same casuals are now laughing at me and others because we aren't enjoying "new casual only endgame". The same people who were made fun of and laughed at for not being able to get relics, ultimate gear, the titles from rare HNM, are now saying stuff like "Your tears are delicious" etc.

You know.. That kind of talk sounds awfull familiar to the time the botting generation was on bg, laughing at others because they had nasa and no one could beat them. People with 5/5 salvage laughing at others because they duped gear and got away with it. (not for long tho! tee hee)

Now some of you very casuals are attacking people who are asking for more of some of the old stuff. Calling us QQers and stuff. Although you're not cheating and entitled to your opinion, you sound exactly like those botting cheating jerks who made fun of you back at 75. How funny is that?

I guess being happy with what you can do isnt good enough. Good enough meaning fun and entertaining. The difference between asking for things to be easier for you and someone asking for MORE harder content, is this: one if a whiner. One person doesnt like the harder stuff, so they are constantly complaining about the content. Even when SE is constantly making fixes and adjustments for you. I really don't think that is the same thing as what myself and others like me are asking. I'm not asking for things to be changed for me. I welcome change. What i was asking as an 8 year player, was for content to be added that interests me and my groups. Then you have people who don';t want that content added, even if theres alternate means of obtaining the rewards, because they simply can't and don't want anyone to have the option to do more and have more than them.

That's nothing but pure selfishness. Sorry. A player like this is only different from a botter in the sense they don't cheat. They are just as inconsiderate and snotty. No consideration or thought for the next guy.

HOW ABOUT ADDING DIFFERENT CONTENT FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT PLAYTIME AND INTERESTS? NO? THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR AMIRITE? lolz

[Yarly]

These forums were made as an outlet for SE, not as an inlet for players' complaints and flames and demands. Updates cost money for SE, but they're free for us aside from our monthly fee.
Everyone makes demands on these forums. Some of them are easier to apply than others, some of them are completely outlandish and unbalanced. I don't see why SE doesn't just delete threads like this one. They serve no purpose whatsoever.

[Yarly]

Now some of you very casuals are attacking people who are asking for more of some of the old stuff. Calling us QQers and stuff. Although you're not cheating and entitled to your opinion, you sound exactly like those botting cheating jerks who made fun of you back at 75. How funny is that?

This is so true, the irony is hilarious.

[Akujima]

I'm from Asura as well.

I'm Shinjima on Asura. But I came over from Pandemonium during the first merge.

Lol... I've never cared one bit about any hockey team, sports team or even the country I live in, rofl... But when Pandemonium got taken away, I was furious -_-...

[Akujima]

I have no idea what game you are playing where killing 500 bats in Garlaige citadel to get from level 48~49 is any different than ToM?

Well first off I didn't go from Lv 37~75 on birds alone. There are other mobs that required different tactics and strategy to defeat...

Also, back in the day EXP'ing was actually fun.

- The WAR had to provoke and line up with the NIN so the THF could SATA.
- The NIN had to focus and keep those shadows up so the WHM isn't cure spamming and getting hate.
- The BLM had to watch nukes and not do TOO MUCH damage, so the NIN could keep hate.
- The THF had to pull off SATA and know when to go fishing for the next mob so a steady flow of EXP could come in.
- The RDM had to keep dispels up, enfeebles up and refresh on to help out the mages.


THAT is dynamics. That's what I enjoyed about FFXI back in the day.


What FFXI has turned into: Everyone mashes their buttons and spams all their abilities, trying to out damage, out heal, out parse their LS mates, in a non-stop E-Peen competition.