Quietus improvement, can I have it?

[Kagato]

I would actually be a lot happier with an improvement to Quietus and Insurgency than I would Guillotine. According to a recent post, the developers are already planning some adjustments to current Weapon Skills. Let's hope at least one Scythe Weapon Skill gets an improvement. As much as I like Guillotine, I'd like to move on.

[Rezeak]

If i had a choice i'd make Quietus a magical WS like Wildfire rather than a Crit WS.

I agree massivly with Kagato i've seen that gullotine animation for 6 years~ now i'd like to look at something new lol.

As a side note i think Insurgency was the most uninventive WS SE ever added it looked Really cool but was almost identical to guillotine and by almost i mean it's slightly weaker ... i mean wtf.

[Natasha]

Its a Solid weapon in terms of DPS, but you will be disappointed by the WS. Severely. At least inside Abyssea.

However I have been told and shown its rather decent outside. At the same time though, It could use a small buff, it just doesn't really shine as opposed to the other ones.

But at the same time, It has the Quality to Ignore DEF, Not Sure how potent it is, but it can be quite powerful on high DEF mobs, So it might become really good once we step outside Abyssea into the new NMs/Voidwatch System where we won't have Overwhelming Attack and buffs.

We'll See ;o

I have actually heard that generally its pretty much on par with guillotine and sometimes weaker, and tbh it makes sense.... with it being 3 ftp multiplier across the board there are many ws that are stronger, i imagine that spiral hell could possibly out preform it... depends on the mob.

Really, this ws is most usefull when your guillotines suck because of high def... only other advantage is it makes darkness with itself.

There is really no excuse, the ws is simply not good enough.. Just like people who would say guillotine is a good ws. It is not, you can get decent numbers with it but its not a good ws.. .85 ftp multipliers, 25% str mnd mods and a silence that serves little purpose. Its about as good as you get with scythe but it is quite weak for a multi-hit ws. Again, it works to some extent but that doesnt make it good. (not suggesting a guillotine change, just stating my support for a good scythe ws)

[Atomic_Skull]

2500-3500 norm with spikes up to 5k happening frequently is not out of the ordinary for Raging Rush inside abyssea.

The Caladbolg wielding DRK in our LS pops off Torcleavers for 4k+ on average with spikes up to 6k. Admittedly he has perfect gear. Torcleaver has a monstrous damage multiplier (4.75-6.5) and if you aren't averaging at least 4k inside Abyssea with it you are doing something wrong.

[Atomic_Skull]

Great Sword is more fun anyway. Scythe is great, But should never limit your damage based on warped RP interpretations of the job.

Also, Guts uses a GS...

But at the same time, It has the Quality to Ignore DEF, Not Sure how potent it is, but it can be quite powerful on high DEF mobs, So it might become really good once we step outside Abyssea into the new NMs/Voidwatch System where we won't have Overwhelming Attack and buffs.

Ignore defense is 10%/20%/30% at 100%/200%/300% TP. As the fTP doesn't vary with TP it's never justified to save up 300% TP because 3 Ws with 10% ignore defense will always out damage 1 WS with 30% ignore defense.

Torcleaver beats Quietus inside Abyssea or outside it because it's just a straightforward massive damage multiplier with no gimmicks. Hell it probably beats Ukon's Fury outside Abyssea too for the same reason.

[Jar]

The Caladbolg wielding DRK in our LS pops off Torcleavers for 4k+ on average with spikes up to 6k. Admittedly he has perfect gear. Torcleaver has a monstrous damage multiplier (4.75-6.5) and if you aren't averaging at least 4k inside Abyssea with it you are doing something wrong.

he /thf? i have nearly perfect gear and i go 2.5K-3K

[Karbuncle]

Also, Guts uses a GS...




Ignore defense is 10%/20%/30% at 100%/200%/300% TP. As the fTP doesn't vary with TP it's never justified to save up 300% TP because 3 Ws with 10% ignore defense will always out damage 1 WS with 30% ignore defense.

Torcleaver beats Quietus inside Abyssea or outside it because it's just a straightforward massive damage multiplier with no gimmicks. Hell it probably beats Ukon's Fury outside Abyssea too for the same reason.

I don't recall saying Quietus > Torc :| in fact mostly the complete opposite.

Just sayin' i remember it being a decently reliable WS outside of Abyssea (where content is headin'). But i know Torc Stomps on it <__<

It desperately needs a buff, It just falls short of useful on about everything. D:

[Gradd]

I have near perfect gear for Torcleaver and don't average 4k, somebody is lying~

[Dart]

he could be buffed out the ass, getting his own personal cor with chaos/war rolls.

[Raksha]

EDIT:: nvm