Pld Emnity/hate distribution chages?

[rog]

rog..just dont talk

Sorry, but it's true. I've got -50% mdt on war, which is exactly what you have with your shiny aegis. It's really not hard to cap mdt.

[Snaplin]

I haven't played PLD in Aby, haven't really done much of anything in aby for that matter, but I have a question. Is a PLD using a Greatsword not useful in Aby? It would do more damage plus can act as a support healer up front. Just a thought.

Get out....

Sorry, but it's true. I've got -50% mdt on war, which is exactly what you have with your shiny aegis. It's really not hard to cap mdt.

He's absolutely correct you can cap MDT with shell 5 and Aegis so SE adding more MDT to Aegis is useless, even my Aegis/Excalibur pld is shelved... I have a Ukonvasara and the hate I generate is fucking stupid. I have a MDT and a PDT set and I usually end up tanking shit with ease /sam. Rog is completely correct on his previous statement whm have a stupid amount of MP and can cure bomb the fuck out of any DD.

Now as to outside abyssea... the situation changes. My LS (when bored as fuck) will occasionally go out and fuck with Cerberus/Khim/ the occasional 1 min Nidhogg and after being used to god mode in abyssea its a shock when you see your whm low on MP lol and IF pld makes any sort of comeback it will be outside abyssea imo, all depends on what SE has on the table for jobs and new content.

I have to say I am really surprised about some of the ideas/responses In this thread as I assumed it would be full of post by users who are apart of the cookie cutter pld group... (Full Pearle gear and some shitty AH/BQ rings.)

[Rambus]

Sorry, but it's true. I've got -50% mdt on war, which is exactly what you have with your shiny aegis. It's really not hard to cap mdt.

I have to agree with rog, that is why at this time there is nothing special about aegis. I specifically said Empyrean sword or sword/shield since the added effect on relic sword does not give you hate. The WS is not critical or give you double damage on melee swings like Empyrean sword is. To be a tank you need to keep hate and take damage well, not just take damage like you pointed out. Plus I can say I take 0 damage from thunder V because WHMs have a nice bar spell after effect. ( why are you getting hit by thunder V? I never seen anyone get hit with single target spells, sincee afterall you have mnk/nin, thf/nin or nin/war for tank)

I hope SE makes aegis and PLD better and effective to play Lutschfactor but that is not the case right now. I can say I can kill XXX in abyssea with 12 DNC but how effective is that?

[Unleashhell]

Something I would like to see, is some kind of TP return for Shield Bash. Being that shield bash does damage like a single weapon hit does I think a TP return maybe based on how much damage you do on shield bash would be nice to see. Obviously Aegis giving the highest TP return. It just a little something to help WS more for PLD, adding to hate control and also giving some sort of little benefit to actually being an Aegis holder myself. Like some of the previous posts other jobs can get mdt- very easily so it is not anything special to have -40% with Aegis at level 90. Also idk what SE was thinking with "Augments Shield Bash IV", its just a measly 20 more damage per upgrade. Such a waste of gil for dynamis to get it to 90 in hopes of some very nice 500-700 Shield bash at level 90.

I do agree with Flash II though. I think its very much needed. I would like to see some kind of ability to up cure potency that lasts maybe 5 or even 10 minutes. That would be another nice tool for PLD using Cure IV for hate. Being cure IV is very much outdated at this point and at 99 will be even more outdated they need to do something with the Enmity cures generate.

[rog]

why are you getting hit by thunder V? I never seen anyone get hit with single target spells, sincee afterall you have mnk/nin, thf/nin or nin/war for tank

because /nin is a terrible sub.