[dev1009] Seriously.... how could you make the HNM system worse...

[Arcon]

with a 90 you could go to Monastic caverns and pick up enough in about an hour.

Try it and you'll quickly see why this doesn't work.

if you cant motivate yourself to do it then imo you dont deserve the final item. granted you can pay the gil to get it, being the easy way out, but as i said if you cant be assed to motivate yourself you dont deserve it

That's your opinion. My opinion is you don't deserve it if you can't beat a challenge. Mindlessly collecting 99 items that drop every 5min at best is not my idea of a challenge, it's just tedious, as is every single trial out there. It's a system that was designed to stretch out FFXI's lifetime by endless monotony.

if u dont have 99 K seals and a regular trustworthy group to do them with your screwed....
i prefer to play with a nice small group of 3-4 friends

While, in general, I agree with your sentiment, I'm guessing you can also do KS99s with a group of 3~4 people by now. I didn't try since level 80, but even then it was a lot easier.

[blowfin]

if you cant motivate yourself to do it then imo you dont deserve the final item. granted you can pay the gil to get it, being the easy way out, but as i said if you cant be assed to motivate yourself you dont deserve it

That's your opinion. My opinion is you don't deserve it if you can't beat a challenge. Mindlessly collecting 99 items that drop every 5min at best is not my idea of a challenge, it's just tedious, as is every single trial out there. It's a system that was designed to stretch out FFXI's lifetime by endless monotony.

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

[Starcade]

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

You're presuming that people who have the stuff actually wanted to put in the effort.

Stop that -- you're not in the Japanese forums.

[Arcon]

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

No point arguing over defnitions. There's no rule about having to work for your rewards. How do you explain Mog Bonanza then? A cosmological injustice?

[Mittenz]

No point arguing over defnitions. There's no rule about having to work for your rewards. How do you explain Mog Bonanza then? A cosmological injustice?

act of god its real and insurance does not cover it (says so specifically)