[dev1009] Seriously.... how could you make the HNM system worse...

[Arcon]

with a 90 you could go to Monastic caverns and pick up enough in about an hour.

Try it and you'll quickly see why this doesn't work.

if you cant motivate yourself to do it then imo you dont deserve the final item. granted you can pay the gil to get it, being the easy way out, but as i said if you cant be assed to motivate yourself you dont deserve it

That's your opinion. My opinion is you don't deserve it if you can't beat a challenge. Mindlessly collecting 99 items that drop every 5min at best is not my idea of a challenge, it's just tedious, as is every single trial out there. It's a system that was designed to stretch out FFXI's lifetime by endless monotony.

if u dont have 99 K seals and a regular trustworthy group to do them with your screwed....
i prefer to play with a nice small group of 3-4 friends

While, in general, I agree with your sentiment, I'm guessing you can also do KS99s with a group of 3~4 people by now. I didn't try since level 80, but even then it was a lot easier.

[blowfin]

if you cant motivate yourself to do it then imo you dont deserve the final item. granted you can pay the gil to get it, being the easy way out, but as i said if you cant be assed to motivate yourself you dont deserve it

That's your opinion. My opinion is you don't deserve it if you can't beat a challenge. Mindlessly collecting 99 items that drop every 5min at best is not my idea of a challenge, it's just tedious, as is every single trial out there. It's a system that was designed to stretch out FFXI's lifetime by endless monotony.

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

[Starcade]

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

You're presuming that people who have the stuff actually wanted to put in the effort.

Stop that -- you're not in the Japanese forums.

[Arcon]

Actually no, it's a fact. If you don't want to put in the effort you don't get a Black Belt. The challenge is farming your seals and doing the NM's. It's quite simple.

No point arguing over defnitions. There's no rule about having to work for your rewards. How do you explain Mog Bonanza then? A cosmological injustice?

[Mittenz]

No point arguing over defnitions. There's no rule about having to work for your rewards. How do you explain Mog Bonanza then? A cosmological injustice?

act of god its real and insurance does not cover it (says so specifically)

[Denabond]

Wow. Just wow. Really, the fact that now you don't have to compete with HNMLSs anymore has everyone complaining now? I'm glad they did it like this. Is it worse then before? In a sense, yes and no. Yes in the sense that its harder to get because you need to get 99 KS > NQ > HQ for a chance at BB item (since it seems that is all everyone cares about). No in that you can slowly work up to it instead of being forced to wake up in the middle of the night for window, or missing out on the item cause you cant make it during its day time pop. No more competing with HNMLSs. And to the people who complain about the reduced drop rate of BB items, you do realize the item in question is undisputedly the best belt in the game? The items SHOULD be hard to get. So really, just suck it up, and farm the KSs (which as some people have said, is not that hard) and eventually you will get it.

[darkvision]

Done turtle KS99 at lvl85 and destroyed it on ~4-6 mins its not all that hard now, that was with 10 mages and 2 DD

[ShadowHeart]

why not make it so it pops sooner? really waste ur time farming 99 k seals to camp a NM that used to spawn for free...
there been times recently where behemoth and KB have just been sitting there and people havent killed it for a while on my server this only fixes the QQ of the monks

too us old timers who have done all our jobs to 75+ before abbyssea and love the fun of the camp which was the initial ideas of ffxi just now contours to the WOW QQ babies

why not just have it so u trade 99 kseals to npc get pop item and go do ur thing double fight with bunch people u don't know or like ain't too fun for me

[Malamasala]

As I used to say. SE are finally getting down to those suggestions sent in 2004. I'm sure poppable Fafnirs were plentiful then.

Personally I think it sounds like another SEA. A system you'll notice is just not worth doing until they update it.

[ShadowHeart]

Trigger conditions for following notorious monsters will be adjusted to spawn by trading specific items to the “???” in the respective area.

Fafnir / Nidhogg: Dragon’s Aery
Behemoth / King Behemoth: Behemoth’s Dominion
Adamantoise / Aspidochelone: Valley of Sorrows

now won't it be fun to get the pop item and fafnir spawning instead of nihdogg as it says the BB items been removed from fafnir drops LOL

The treasures dropped by the following notorious monsters will be adjusted as follows:

Fafnir : Wyrm Beard removed
Nidhogg : Drop rate of Wyrm Beard decreased
Behemoth : Behemoth Tongue removed
King Behemoth : Drop rate of Behemoth Tongue decreased
Adamantoise : Adamantoise Egg removed
Aspidochelone : Drop rate of Adamantoise Egg decreased

lets see how happy people will be getting the wrong NM random spawn wasting 99 Kseals on trigger lol