Dark Knight and the Dev Team

[RaenRyong]

Melee BRD might be able to outDD DRK. I haven't done the math on it, but looking at it, it seems likely... inside Abyssea of course.

[Quetzacoatl]

Melee BRD might be able to outDD DRK. I haven't done the math on it, but looking at it, it seems likely... inside Abyssea of course.

BlueGartr tested that a long time ago I thought. But yeah, if a BARD can out-damage a Dark Knight, something is seriously wrong.

[Frost]

Melee BRD might be able to outDD DRK. I haven't done the math on it, but looking at it, it seems likely... inside Abyssea of course.

I assume you're just trolling, but I'll bite...
If a melee bard and Drk were in the same party, and both receiving buffs, there's no way a melee Brd could out-damage a Drk. If only for the fact a Drk gets access to every offensive ability that bard has, save for requiem, while having access to generally better gear.

[RaenRyong]

I assume you're just trolling, but I'll bite...
If a melee bard and Drk were in the same party, and both receiving buffs, there's no way a melee Brd could out-damage a Drk. If only for the fact a Drk gets access to every offensive ability that bard has, save for requiem, while having access to generally better gear.

I am trolling in a way, in that I'm posting that to gain a reaction. The reaction I want is the initial disbelief and then when you realise that what I just said isn't that far from the truth, the next reaction I want is the "... wtf? Fix DRK".

We can either assume nonempyrean for both, or give them both empyreans (remembering BRD has full access to ToM daggers). Both cap haste, DRK can 5hit if Scythe, 6hit if Gswrd. Guillotine is 3.875 fTP and Evisceration is 6 fTP with critical potential. Assuming a base damage of ~200 for Scythe and ~120 for Dagger, 775 vs 720 relative units of damage, before criticals - so obviously when criticals are taken into account, Evisceration will absolutely rape Guillotine (not to mention I've assumed same WSC for both, when Razed Ruins atma (which both should use) will greatly favour Evisceration etc).

So DRK has capped Haste, BRD has capped Haste and some DW reduction on what are already extremely high DoT daggers. If we assume Kila +2 x2, 43dmg/190delay => 86dmg/304delay(after DW), giving a "DPS" of ~17 (ignoring the STR/atk/DEX/acc on the daggers). DRK using Woeborn (131dmg/528delay) has a "DPS" of 14.9. This is unfair, you cry! I should give DRK its top magian too. This is true, but you'll soon come to the depressing conclusion that you need a perfect magian with perfect gear to keep up with a rather mundane melee bard (albeit one with empyrean daggers).

I haven't factored Last Resort or Hasso, both of which should push DRK over BRD. In fact, most of this math is highly approximate and should not be taken beyond face value, and I haven't extended it to play with Torcleaver. What I just want to show is that DRK is not much better than a melee BRD inside Abyssea - if you performed these calculations with almost any other melee, BRD would be absolutely destroyed even at the initial premise.