Pet Shop

[Alukat]

if u farm the buffalo meat u would be at 50k/hour top, if u would sell the eta's for 30k per stack. why bother with a 50k/hour craft when there are crafts for much more per hour?

Edit: yuly 150k/hour with farming + craft, if it is a good crafter ^^
Edit2: shell bug sold by npc would drop the price since u don't need to bother to farm them anymore.

[Gotterdammerung]

probably the easiest solution is for the NPc store to just sell materials for crafters. Thats the only way to get an honest regulation. Nursery nazuna is for the most part this way. All its ingredients can be purchased as long as the npc's area is not beastman controled and its price has remained incredibly steady and fair. Roughly 400 gil for the beaugreens 70 gil for the turnip 380ish for the Napa 167 gil for the water crystals. A total cost of roughly 1100 gil per stack to make. Plenty in stock 4k ish a stack.

[Karbuncle]

probably the easiest solution is for the NPc store to just sell materials for crafters. Thats the only way to get an honest regulation. Nursery nazuna is for the most part this way. All its ingredients can be purchased as long as the npc's area is not beastman controled and its price has remained incredibly steady and fair. Roughly 400 gil for the beaugreens 70 gil for the turnip 380ish for the Napa 167 gil for the water crystals. A total cost of roughly 1100 gil per stack to make. Plenty in stock 4k ish a stack.

Wouldn't be a bad idea.

Though i Still think there should be a shop that sells Low-Level (Pre-50) Pet Food/Jugs at a reasonable price. Cause even with a supply from NPC of Materials, They still wouldn't show up on AH as much me thinks.

Just not a big "low Level" Market.

[Alukat]

yep, atm its 12 lesser chigoe (max) per hour farmed that are 6 crafts = would be 3 stacks yulys
but u have to bother another hour with farming shell bugs + crafting.
making shell bugs purchaseable might drop the price to <75k
making lesser chigoe purchaseable (depending on price) would drop the price too.

[Gotterdammerung]

I suppose.

I know some people like the whole low lvl jug pet usage thing. I personally just used the environment and charm. Its stronger and free, but i can see sumone wanting less headache. It is easier to just call a expendable hero and space out on some FoV.

P.S. I dont really care wat they do to pet food eta, its beyond hope of saving. Its got so many things going against it. #1 u cant even use it properly with ducal because even at like 1% life it will take your pet over 50% wich exposes it to risk when it breaks the pdt/mdt.
#2 the only time the extra healing would be needed is if you somehow werent making it to ur next reward timer, and personally for me that never happens. im actually usually waiting a good 3-5 minutes past the timer b4 needing to use reward again on a harder fight.
#3 the increase to healing does not justify the price. i.e. 10 zetas would heal the same as 7 etas roughly. 10 zetas usually costs you 150k whereas 7 eta's would cost you 210k on my server and on other servers even more. Your actually paying an extra 60k a stack just to see the 2400 number insted of the 1800 number but getting less benefit. The price of eta would have to fall to around 20k a stack just to be even with zeta on price/healing. And thats also comparing current zeta prices wich are marked way the hell up do to the combination of crafting being a wounded animal and beastmaster being bandwagon. Zeta was stuck steady at 5k a stack for the majority of this games lifespan.

[Karbuncle]

The days of Abyssea are numbered you know, Not caring about something because it stops you from abusing 100%PDT in abyssea is a bad idea.

Cause as of right now, It looks like 95~99 Isn't going to be in Abyssea, While Pet Food Zeta will still be good Inside, A lot of our content is going to be outside from this point on, so Pet Food Eta needs to go down in price :\

[Gotterdammerung]

#1 was refering to abyssea

reason #2 was not refering to abyssea. (inside abyssea u use reward like maybe once every 10 minutes.) If you would like an example of an outside abyssea fight in wich reason #2 applies, KSNM 99 "early bird" Pet tanking does not need eta biscuits. Reward is down for several minutes b4 u need to use a zeta biscuit again. #2 applies to all other outside abyssea fights i do, this is just 1 example.

reason #3 is applicable everywhere.


Basically, The extra healing isnt needed.
Inside abyssea the extra healing is detrimental.
Combined with the lack of cost effeciency, Eta biscuits are useless and wasteful everywhere.

[Karbuncle]

Yes. And i was only addressing Point 1.

Point 2/3 I have no opinion on.

[Gotterdammerung]

The days of Abyssea are numbered you know

Furthermore , i dont believe abyssea will ever be dead. People regularly do dynamis,sky,sea,limbus, hell even nyzul isle. And these places don't turn you into superman. They also dont have anywhere near the same amount of content to explore. Also abyssea provides the most effecient way to exp currently.

I think People will be poking around in abyssea until the game ends.

[Bubeeky]

I don't know about your servers, but as a crafter on my server I can tell you that there's very little profits to be had in crafting jugs....even the yuly crafts are actually a loss unless you spend hours and hours farming the little chigoe things, so to me, it's incredibly unfair to say that the crafters are gouging when in actuality we're just barely making enough to keep us crafting.