Pet Shop

[kyawind]

mr thread opener~ ur intention i see that is probly a good start to help others, but what you may not realise is that when u have a npc that sells these the whole balance of crafters on the market would be pretty much killed. Even if you find the in-convience of AH out of stock or crafting it is a waste of time.

just in the crafting side "because YOU don't craft since its a waste of time" does not mean others are not doing it. Like you said since your making 2~4mil on something you do then well either buy it from the AH or buy materials off someone or something theres definitely people killing the things for whats needed to be crafted and then get it crafted. I myself have a friend whose abysea daily and smashes all types of mobs and i told their ls i'll take all their eggs/meat they get hold of matter of would you go out and sort things out and all. (hey since u make 2~4mil in a click im sure u can offer to buy it instead)

as for jugs consumption, im pretty sure alot of us here use just as much as jugs like you per week so don't complain about all of it being too hard or whatever.

synth materials are easy to come by, or if you really hate it that much go pay a crafting person a bulk of gil and just have them in a deal like "ok i want this amount of jugs per week dbox it to me" and make them do it

for other bsts hello~ this forum is so hard to get linked up and navigating around...


gosh my eng grammar is so bad even re-reading it its hard to get what im trying to say lol...

[Ezikiel]

Still hoping for bird

[Gotterdammerung]

#1 This is a suggestions style forums created by SE to give the players a direct line to the Devs. That means SE asked me to tell them ideas. Im not whining, complaining, or waah waahing. Im simply doing what SE asked and suggesting.

#2 Yes, Rng and Cor dont have a good arrow NPC, but... go to the ranger and cor section of these forums.... oh look! wat a surprise! Posts requesting ammo npcs.....Oh and look! For the same reasons (and they didnt even have to deal with crafters being rude, insulting them and/or ranting, I guess smithers and woodworkers are just cooler than cooks.)

[SNK]

#1 This is a suggestions style forums created by SE to give the players a direct line to the Devs. That means SE asked me to tell them ideas. Im not whining, complaining, or waah waahing. Im simply doing what SE asked and suggesting.

And you're doing it the wrong way. What you're asking is for SE to give you something that will take away from other players. That's it in a nutshell.

#2 Yes, Rng and Cor dont have a good arrow NPC, but... go to the ranger and cor section of these forums.... oh look! wat a surprise! Posts requesting ammo npcs.....Oh and look! For the same reasons (and they didnt even have to deal with crafters being rude, insulting them and/or ranting, I guess smithers and woodworkers are just cooler than cooks.)

See now your problem is you're generalizing crafters as all rude & insulting. Your problem is that you have options to get what you need to have jug pets cheaper then the AH but you're not following thru with what people have honestly givin you as good suggestions. I'll say it again since you can't seem to follow too much..

"FFXi is a social game and sadly you don't get much of a chance to be social when you're humping the AH for jug pets/armor/w/e but, if you're that hardup for thinking you paying too much, stop your god damn bitching, unlazy yourself and contact the seller and ask them if they'd be willing to haggle.

nine times out of ten most crafters will sell for less sometimes to a person who's willing to buy direct from them because it saves them AH fees and helps them unload inventory on their characters to do more crafting. Hell with me and Bonecraft I had a solid stream of requests to make arrowheads and I sold them for less then AH price but I still made a tidy profit because people just threw gil at me because they knew I was doing them a service.

The same thing applies to the AH. It's people providing a service for you and that's it. You bitching about jug pets should be bought directly from NPCs just makes it look like you're wanting SE to hand you everything you want in a bag. You're being nothing more then a lazy player if you can't fend for yourself to make money in this game."


Please follow the bolded part if you don't read anything else. You're a BST which in itself is a solo job that means if you're soloing, you don't have to share your drops with anyone else. I made a ton of money off farming Despot back in the day at 500,000 gil a Gem when people cared about sky but it still doesn't detract from the whole idea that you have options that do not involve dealing with the AH.

Get out there and try it instead of making selfish requests for handouts.

@Guardian, If anything I'd like to see revamped for BST is fucking being able to Charm mobs in Abyessa. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to seeing as how much of them are weaker then the good jug pets currently out.

[Guardian]

@Guardian, If anything I'd like to see revamped for BST is fucking being able to Charm mobs in Abyessa. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to seeing as how much of them are weaker then the good jug pets currently out.

Yeah I had already posted about that in a different thread, I don't really keep up with what I'm saying in which, I have a pretty short attention span for this sort of thing. xD

[taruaztec]

So cause crafting isn't fun we should have a shop that sells the stuff. Because farming mats takes time that we would rather spend doing other stuff we should have a shop for this? Because i'm a beastmaster and can't cook my own jugs or pet food we should have a shop for this? How about my hands get tired of holding a controller to play the game can we auto pilot mode please.

Seriously, I leveled my cooking to support my BST. If BST's can't find a way to get the jugs and food they need I say they aren't trying hard enough. Yes farming for mats to make your supplies sucks but guess what, that's part of the game.

In a sense your logic would apply to this situation. Hey SE, i hate running around farming my popsets to fight NM's to build my empyrean weapons, can we just have a shop so i can buy the Briarus helms, the Carabosse gems, the Glavoid shells, the Chloris buds, etc.

So as you can tell Pet Shop idea is a big X imo. Don't like the supply of BST items available on your AH on your server? find ways to combat it even if its farming your mats and having people craft for you even though you rather be doign something else. Goes back to the old saying "life's not easy"

Woot Auto run and auto follow for the win. I fine myself always trying to use auto run in every other game i play...fail.

[hakrev]

Honestly, a pet shop is not a bad idea, but it simply needs to take care of the lower lvl bst needs. The lower level pet foods are never crafted by crafters anymore, so it would effect absolutely nothing to have those at an NPC, just as having most of the low lvl regular familiars already able to be bought from an npc has never effected anything at all. What would be a problem is having the high lvl foods (lvl 60+, which are the only ones that people actually sell anymore). Every pet food pre-60 should be available at an npc, for reasonably higher prices then ah. The 99 stackable pet foods could be added, but they would need to be for around 40,000 (possibly higher, on my server regular prices are 30k~) just to make it reasonably high enough to not effect the general market. If the prices are higher then it costs to buy from ah, people at least would have a choice to get something even if the crafters were lazy and not crafting anything, which seems to be happening more and more. High lvl bsts, if they were very short on cash for whatever reason (it happens to all of us at one time or another) and they had an event to go to, could simply go to the shop and purchase a few lower lvls foods. While they would naturally have gimp food and would run through more pets, they could still at least participate.

A pre-60 bst is most likely not concentrating on crafting (and once we hit 99, pre-70 bst food/jugs will be equally gimp), as they are simply charming monsters anyways and there is no need to have pet food/jugs, so having a pet shop to fulfill the food/jug pet need of lower lvls would effect nothing as noone even uses those jugs anyways, maybe some bsts would actually use some of them that way and if you wanted to help a lower player with quests in a lower zone you could quickly grab a cheap jug and a few lower lvl pet foods and head on out and help them quickly. Now couriercarrie for example would not be on the list of buyable jugs simply because of it's massive level range, but some of the jugs that only last like 10 lvls and aren't uber powerful would be perfectly fine to be added to a shop. The Shop location would need to be placed in an outlands area such as rabao/norg/khazam/nashmau or something like that, to simply make it less convenient and less likely to interfere with the general market. Although, it would make more sense to be in Upper Jeuno near Brutus.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'd love a shop that sold all the jugpets you could want...

I think a shop that sold the materials to make jugpets would be a better idea tho.. so it doesn't mess with crafters...

[Glamdring]

I just had a good guy help me with Tigerfangs to make my Valroedge frame as they are never on the AH. I farmed the materials and crystal and he synthed (without HQ... whew) and offerred to do it for free. I paid the current 30k AH price anyway. I was fine with paying the AH price, there just weren't any. I do think the player is entitled to compensation for their crafting.


By that token, I have multiple LS members who cook jugs/food for me (my craft is leather tyvm or I'd do it myself) for no cost so I'll be at full strength when I go on LS events... or maybe because they're just cool like that. I repay (without being asked) by giving any mats I receive for their crafts free. Networking can go a long way, the only prob is when the crafter you know is occupied and you need whatever NOW.

[Tealsic]

Mehhhhhhh should just have an npc that sells ingrediants. Nuff said. Like chigoes for yulys.................... freakin those ratty lookin fellas slave drive karakul all over nashmau. Why cant they sell the chigoes off of them? And chigoes drop out of boxes now so why are the jugs still so expensive? The crafter shouldnt be "Up in Arms" about thisthread at all. Your first thought was similar to gas prices here in the US. You need it. Your goin to buy it. We tell you what your goin to pay because we supply it. So when we try to find a way to get around it you attack us? Sorry communism doesnt exist in FFXI land. and for you gotter........... brilliant idea.