Bring back the OG CoP style content

[Cabalabob]

I was thinking about CoP missions, i like how i, as a lvl 90, can one shot the promy bosses for low level friends who just want to get through the missions for their rajas ring.

but there are also people who want to do the fights properly, like doing the promies at lvl 30.

My idea is to add something similar to what they did with how you can choose a level cap for assault missions. make it so that the player engaging the battlefield can choose to instate the level cap or not. E.G. the player can choose wether to limit promies down to lvl 30 or just leave the battlefield uncapped.

battlefields done under the level cap should also give a reward so that even players who have already completed the missions have an incentive to help new players who want to do it properly. I was thinking for rewards possibly something similar to prime avatar fight rewards, you can choose a rare/exclusive piece of equipment, gil or double the exp gained from the fight.

This would also be a good oportunity to make the ducal guard ring reobtainable, make it so that on first completion you get the ring AND a reward and upon repeating the mission the ring could be one of the rewards. I dunno if there is a reason the ducal guard ring isn't reobtainable but with all the new content based in jeuno like abyssea and trial of the magian moogles, i really miss that ring...

[Carth]

battlefields done under the level cap should also give a reward so that even players who have already completed the missions have an incentive to help new players who want to do it properly.

This is extremely oxymoronic.

[Cabalabob]

This is extremely oxymoronic.

elaborate, i don't see it. If a person who nvr did CoP came up and asked me 2 help em wit promies id say sure its a free 1k exp for 1 shotting a boss, if a person came up 2 me and asked me 2 help them do it under the lvl cap of 30 cause they want to experience the fight properly even tho ther is no extra reward for doing so, i'd say no way. ther wuld need 2 be an extra reward from doing it under the level cap or i wuldnt hav any reason to help.

[Carth]

elaborate, i don't see it. If a person who nvr did CoP came up and asked me 2 help em wit promies id say sure its a free 1k exp for 1 shotting a boss, if a person came up 2 me and asked me 2 help them do it under the lvl cap of 30 cause they want to experience the fight properly even tho ther is no extra reward for doing so, i'd say no way. ther wuld need 2 be an extra reward from doing it under the level cap or i wuldnt hav any reason to help.

We're talking about two different things.

What makes Level restricted CoP battles "proper"?

What makes an entirely new player want to do CoP under level restriction because it's the "proper" way?
What makes this new player want to believe that is the "proper" way?

As for your point though:

People won't do capped fights not because of the BCNM battle itself, but because you have to go through hell and back just to get to the battle in the first place. Fetch quests, constant "win" buttons (anima, yellow liquid, etc.) and getting the correct jobs has made CoP one of the most neglected mission lines because once people are done with it they sure as hell don't wanna do it again. People say they want CoP-like missions again but I highly doubt they know what they're talking about.

[Cabalabob]

What makes Level restricted CoP battles "proper"?

What makes an entirely new player want to do CoP under level restriction because it's the "proper" way?
What makes this new player want to believe that is the "proper" way?

um...how about the fact that that is how it was originally implemented? that and all the items that you mentioned are completely redundant now seeing as you can kill all the promy bosses and mammets with your eyes closed.

The only reason they removed the caps is because CoP areas and rewards are so old and outdated that they wanted casual players to be able to zip through it and get back to the new stuff. this leaves people who look for a challenge in their mission lines with another story they can complete solo in less than a week.

honestly if a FF game came out and for 6/8ths of it i culd kill every monster and boss in one shot i'd want my money back... thats pretty much the case with CoP.

as for your point about people not knowing what ther talking about. well why not let them figure that out for themselves? all im suggesting is adding in the cap as a CHOICE. that way casual players can burn ther way through it and get ther rajas ring and sea access, frequent players can enjoy the story the way it was supposed 2 be aswell as be rewarded appropriatley with stuff casual players can't get and nostalgic players can try it under the cap then realise they hated it and never look back.

[Carth]

um...how about the fact that that is how it was originally implemented?

So a change that SE themselves have made is considered to be "wrong" and "improper", because that wasn't how it was in the first place? Thank goodness SE never changed Campaign... oh wait.

Also.

The only reason they removed the caps is because CoP areas and rewards are so old and outdated that they wanted casual players to be able to zip through it and get back to the new stuff. this leaves people who look for a challenge in their mission lines with another story they can complete solo in less than a week.

Absolutely false. If I remember right CoP was actually the least completed storyline out of RotZ, CoP, and ToAU because players, especially ones that came post-ToAU, couldn't find anyone to help them, especially players that already completed the storyline. SE changed CoP to allow players to get to Sea and experience the storyline, as well as get the endgame rewards.

I'm actually not arguing against your suggestion. But people really need to open their eyes to why this was changed.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Absolutely false. If I remember right CoP was actually the least completed storyline out of RotZ, CoP, and ToAU because players, especially ones that came post-ToAU, couldn't find anyone to help them, especially players that already completed the storyline. SE changed CoP to allow players to get to Sea and experience the storyline, as well as get the endgame rewards.

I'm actually not arguing against your suggestion. But people really need to open their eyes to why this was changed.

Truth.

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