20 hour cooldown on Sortie is too low

[Tarmarkvar]

You don't have to, but as a company that wants to retain players you very much should yes.

So Square Enix needs to micromanage all their players so that they don't engage in self destructive behavior? That's not how life works. You can't save people from themselves; that's fundamental human psychology.

You still haven't explained why we need to single out Sortie, but allow players to burn themselves out on Dynamis, Salvage, Assault, Abyssea, job points, exemplar points, or farming.

I am the EXACT type of player you are trying to save. Yeah it irked me a tiny bit that, because I skipped Sortie yesterday, my ultimate goal of reforging all 7 of the pieces I have is delayed by one day, but that's it. I'm mature enough to deal with it. Those are the entire consequences. I also recently took up Samurai and I'm at 1610 job points. I want to get up to 2100, and the current double CP campaign makes that easier. And I do feel a little pressure to get it done now before it ends and I have to wait for the next one. But guess what? I did it. I stopped doing capacity points because I farmed like 1300 of them during this campaign and I can honestly not stomach another hour of doing it. I didn't need Square Enix to come in and cap my capacity points for me. I am an adult, and I can pace myself. Any person who is getting tired of Sortie can take a break. Literally the only consequence is that it defers their goals by one day for each time they do it. If they're too obsessive to deal with that, they don't need the game to be redesigned. They need a therapist.

[Sp1cyryan]

Good post, Tarm, but I can't say more than that they aren't honest enough about it is why. Without it turning into a slam they will one day PM me over or rant about here.

[Pixela]

So Square Enix needs to micromanage all their players so that they don't engage in self destructive behavior? That's not how life works. You can't save people from themselves; that's fundamental human psychology.

Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium warden.

Furthermore, I already linked you to a thread with smart people who have played the game for a long time are feeling burned out on this content specifically. Allowing them to double up their KI to double up the rewards would go some way to rectify this and lower congestion at the same time.

[Sp1cyryan]

Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium warden.

Furthermore, I already linked you to a thread with smart people who have played the game for a long time are feeling burned out on this content specifically. Allowing them to double up their KI to double up the rewards would go some way to rectify this and lower congestion at the same time.

Lolol. Just stop.

[Tarmarkvar]

Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium warden.

Furthermore, I already linked you to a thread with smart people who have played the game for a long time are feeling burned out on this content specifically. Allowing them to double up their KI to double up the rewards would go some way to rectify this and lower congestion at the same time.

Yes. People burn out. What's your point? You cite a couple people who are bored with Sortie. There are people out there bored with Odyssey, Dynamis, Salvage, Master levels etc., Doubling up is not going to fix that. Doing Sortie for twice as long is not going to make it any less boring for people who are bored with it. You still do the same amount of Sortie. And again, you have not said why every other thing gets a pass. You're just picking on Sortie because it's the newest and trendiest thing.

Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden. What exactly does that mean? Both of these were just high end NMs that weren't thoroughly playtested so they were impossible to beat. Developers fixed that. They made an actual change. You are just proposing some idiotic change where people who hate doing Sortie can continue doing the same amount of the thing they hate, but in a slightly different time configuration. Why not just let them do all 7 hours on one day? A big old marathon! Nobody who is bored with Sortie could object to doing it for seven hours straight.

[Pixela]

Nobody really hates Sortie, this change or some similar change would make it less of a chore and reduce congestion.

Explain to me why doing it for an hour every day is better for the game and players than being able to do it once every 2 days for the same reward as an option, you keep yapping but not explaining your point.

The changes to AV and PW were because there were news articles and people were damaging themselves to try and kill it.

[Tarmarkvar]

Nobody really hates Sortie, this change or some similar change would make it less of a chore and reduce congestion.

Explain to me why doing it for an hour every day is better for the game and players than being able to do it once every 2 days for the same reward as an option, you keep yapping but not explaining your point.

If you are referring to your video game as "a chore", you are doing video games wrong.

The status quo--doing one hour a day--is NOT better. It's exactly the same. That's my point. You want the devs to waste time to make the game exactly the same way it is, but in a different configuration, to save people who apparently have so little self control that they can't just avoid Sortie on days they don't feel like doing it. Changing the status quo requires work, and if that change is not worth the work, then there is no reason to change. And yet you are still perfectly content to allow them to run themselves ragged farming Alexandrite or Dynamis currency all day long. Because I think you don't actually care about burnout. I think you just want the game to cater to whatever your current passing fancy is.

[Pixela]

Getting on an exercise bike for an hour 4 times a week to stay healthy is superior to being forced to get on a bike 7 times a week for an hour.

Allowing people to do Sortie 4 to 7 times a week and attain their goals is better than being forced to do it 7 times to get the gali for your prime weapon.

Your only argument against my suggestion is dev time, my argument against this is that they aren't going to be doing anything major anyway and so making player experience better and lowering congestion of Sortie is a valid use of their time, and exactly what they are there for now.

The problem specific to Sortie and not other things is because a) it's something lots of players feel they have to do in order to get prime weapons, which will take around 6-9 months and b) it lowers congestion for everyone else for the next 6-9 months.

All positives, no negatives.

[Tarmarkvar]

Getting on an exercise bike for an hour 4 times a week to stay healthy is superior to being forced to get on a bike 7 times a week for an hour.

Allowing people to do Sortie 4 to 7 times a week and attain their goals is better than being forced to do it 7 times to get the gali for your prime weapon.

NOBODY. IS. FORCED. TO. DO. SORTIE. Stop with this ridiculous lie.

And your suggestion involves doing the exact same amount of Sortie, so it doesn't even fix it for anyone.

The problem specific to Sortie and not other things is because a) it's something lots of players feel they have to do in order to get prime weapons, which will take around 6-9 months and b) it lowers congestion for everyone else for the next 6-9 months.

Again, it's not Square Enix's fault if some players are too neurotic and obsessed to skip an event that they don't feel like doing.

Okay well, I'm getting stupider from trying to converse with Pixela. I have somewhere to go tonight, and if I have to do this any more I'm going to forget how to drive.

[Pixela]

They are if they want a prime weapon, and they do.

Never fear, you didn't get stupider. You were the same from the start, since you had no counter argument at any point at all.