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    20 hour cooldown on Sortie is too low

    By allowing people to enter every day, you're creating a vehicle for burnout since it's pretty repetitive.

    I think daily access works on some content like Ody, but I don't think it works too well on Sortie.

    Maybe allow the key item to overcharge, so if you wait 40 hours you get much more Gali rewarded. If players want to do it daily they can, but you're dis-incentivizing it which lessens burnout and lowers congestion.
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    This so much feels like a troll. People can govern their own behavior. One hour a day doing Sortie probably won't burn most people out. If it does burn out a few, they can take a break and NOT do Sortie. We don't need the game punishing players because some subset of players push themselves too hard.

    Everything is a vehicle for burnout. You can spend 10 hours a day farming for job points or exemplar points. You can spend 6 hours a week farming cards in Omen. You can spend all day in Dynamis farming currency for a relic, or in Salvage farming Alexandrite. There are over 1000 Records of Eminence objectives and you could burn yourself out trying to complete all those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    This so much feels like a troll. People can govern their own behavior. One hour a day doing Sortie probably won't burn most people out. If it does burn out a few, they can take a break and NOT do Sortie. We don't need the game punishing players because some subset of players push themselves too hard.

    Everything is a vehicle for burnout. You can spend 10 hours a day farming for job points or exemplar points. You can spend 6 hours a week farming cards in Omen. You can spend all day in Dynamis farming currency for a relic, or in Salvage farming Alexandrite. There are over 1000 Records of Eminence objectives and you could burn yourself out trying to complete all those.
    For them, nothing is a troll. Even when they actually try to.

    XI players apparently have 0 moderation. Bye bye burnouts!
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    They are effectively turning it into a daily.

    I didn't say to not allow it, I just suggested allowing people to double up if they prefer.

    As far as I see there is no downside to what I suggested. Less congestion for everyone, players who want to do every day can and people who want to do it every other can do that and lose nothing from it because they can double up rewards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    They are effectively turning it into a daily.

    I didn't say to not allow it, I just suggested allowing people to double up if they prefer.

    As far as I see there is no downside to what I suggested. Less congestion for everyone, players who want to do every day can and people who want to do it every other can do that and lose nothing from it because they can double up rewards
    Doing a double session 3 times a week is exactly the same as doing a single session 6 times a week. There is literally no advantage to doing it your way. If somebody wants to do Sortie every other day, or every 3 days, or once a week, or never, that's the player's choice. I do Sortie every day, except on days when I don't have the time or don't feel like it. I faced no penalty for not doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    Doing a double session 3 times a week is exactly the same as doing a single session 6 times a week. There is literally no advantage to doing it your way. If somebody wants to do Sortie every other day, or every 3 days, or once a week, or never, that's the player's choice. I do Sortie every day, except on days when I don't have the time or don't feel like it. I faced no penalty for not doing so.
    Stop making perfect sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    Doing a double session 3 times a week is exactly the same as doing a single session 6 times a week. There is literally no advantage to doing it your way. If somebody wants to do Sortie every other day, or every 3 days, or once a week, or never, that's the player's choice. I do Sortie every day, except on days when I don't have the time or don't feel like it. I faced no penalty for not doing so.
    Many mmo players feel compulsion to do things, so if you let them do it 7 times a week they will do it 7 times a week even if they find it repetitive. Allowing them to double up, makes it less repetitive and helps everyone else because queue times will be less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    Many mmo players feel compulsion to do things, so if you let them do it 7 times a week they will do it 7 times a week even if they find it repetitive. Allowing them to double up, makes it less repetitive and helps everyone else because queue times will be less.
    They will be doomed to self-inflicted suffering then in a decades old video game. Hope they don't feel compelled to get platinum on all their playstation games next. Oh no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    Oh no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    Doing a double session 3 times a week is exactly the same as doing a single session 6 times a week. There is literally no advantage to doing it your way. If somebody wants to do Sortie every other day, or every 3 days, or once a week, or never, that's the player's choice. I do Sortie every day, except on days when I don't have the time or don't feel like it. I faced no penalty for not doing so.
    Logging in 3 days a week instead of 6 days a week can be much easier for many people, even if it's the same amount of time spent. Having more flexible options is almost always better.
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