Do something about the AH and lower level gear????

[chubrocka]

I guess people are complaining about lack of gil because they level up so much faster these days. When I started you had to earn the gil to level up. Now its too easy to level, the need for gil is that much faster and because they havent had to earn gil before leveling they are finding they are short. The game now seems geared towards how fast can I get to 90 instead of how can I get to be a good quality player.

Ya to bad the thread was about how to help fill the AH for new players at low levels (gear and so on), or come up with a idea on how to make things of that nature more available. The "how fast i can level" I couldnt agree with you more. I think the reason we die hards played this game and boycott WoW is because we cherrished the long hours and years of team work and companionship created. FFXI was never geared to be a solo game, well not untill ABBY came out anyways...

I know all of you who have played this game many years can remember a BUSTING at the seems AH. Where you could buy gear recycled off by players who sold it there because its how it was done. Youd check your deliv box all the time to see if your items sold so you could purchase better equip to go along with the items you quested for. That is no longer a part of the game, and its what the newer players will never see unless we/SE do something to help it. (look more server merges, lack of newer players, we will lose our passion here if we dont do something)So again to all of you who want to steer off topic... try to be a solution not a problem.

[Olor]

Gardening..

Can't garden for 3 months after starting a new character.

[Olor]

Read what we're writing. You can currently acquire gear with gil, be it on the AH if it's up, from an NPC if it's not, or farm/buy the materials and find a crafter. Or one of the various (and I mean lots by that) other methods mentioned.

Nothing at all is broken. Nothing.

Actually the fact that there is very little gear between 1-50 on the AH at any time IS broken. It isn't even about gil - it is about the fact that you simply can't buy it if it isn't there... and if you truly think paying an npc X3 what a crappy piece of gear is worth is the solution for a newb - you're outta your mind.

If crafters don't think making gear is worth their time - then something is broken - either SE needs to make crafting skill ups come faster (thus encouraging new players to give it a try) - or they need to stock npcs with more gear that costs less.

The game economy was originally made with a playerbase that was -mostly- low level with some high levels in mind. Now that the game is so top heavy, things need to be adjusted. As for people saying stacks of onions sell for so much yadda ya - last time I sold them I got like 8K and that was pretty much the price they were when I sold them 2 years ago on my old char on a different server.

I've also tried farming onions on a lvl 7 or 8 job only to have a level 90 thf come and sweep the area clean of mobs. Great. Now I get no money, and no experience points. That was fun! I guess I can sit down and wait for respawn now. Sure is fun playing this game!

If you want the game to wither away before it's time you will continue to accuse new players of being lazy. If you were smart, however, you would realize new players will extend the life of this game - and support measures which don't hurt you, but help new players.

Seriously- if you don't want to make newbie armor - why would you be against measures to help new players get some?

[Fiarlia]

Actually the fact that there is very little gear between 1-50 on the AH at any time IS broken. It isn't even about gil - it is about the fact that you simply can't buy it if it isn't there... and if you truly think paying an npc X3 what a crappy piece of gear is worth is the solution for a newb - you're outta your mind.

If crafters don't think making gear is worth their time - then something is broken - either SE needs to make crafting skill ups come faster (thus encouraging new players to give it a try) - or they need to stock npcs with more gear that costs less.

The game economy was originally made with a playerbase that was -mostly- low level with some high levels in mind. Now that the game is so top heavy, things need to be adjusted. As for people saying stacks of onions sell for so much yadda ya - last time I sold them I got like 8K and that was pretty much the price they were when I sold them 2 years ago on my old char on a different server.

I've also tried farming onions on a lvl 7 or 8 job only to have a level 90 thf come and sweep the area clean of mobs. Great. Now I get no money, and no experience points. That was fun! I guess I can sit down and wait for respawn now. Sure is fun playing this game!

If you want the game to wither away before it's time you will continue to accuse new players of being lazy. If you were smart, however, you would realize new players will extend the life of this game - and support measures which don't hurt you, but help new players.

Seriously- if you don't want to make newbie armor - why would you be against measures to help new players get some?

Try reading through the actual topic, every single point you made has already been addressed, and I've said multiple times I'm not against helping, it's just not necessary.

Geez, people seriously need to go level and cap their reading comprehension skills.

[Eeek]

Actually the fact that there is very little gear between 1-50 on the AH at any time IS broken.

Not really. It's a sign that there's a negligible demand for these items.

There's absolutely no incentive for crafters to enter the low-level gear market since there is no real market for low-level gear. There's already enough low-level gear floating about the playerbase, bought and sold as people start and finish subjobs, that there's no real incentive for crafters to involve themselves. There's no gil to be made there. If, as you claim, there are tons of new players running about, then crafters would already be there accommodating the demand for gear.

This MMO is over eight years old. FFXI will never again see a large influx of new players. Returning players? Yes. But not entirely new players.

[viion]

You stop getting gil on FOV after 5, so a level 1 can only make 1350, 1/10th required to buy any gear lol.

[Eeek]

You stop getting gil on FOV after 5, so a level 1 can only make 1350, 1/10th required to buy any gear lol.

Players can receive FoV's gil and tabs reward only once per game day even though it's possible to do several FoV regimes per game day.

[Olor]

Try reading through the actual topic, every single point you made has already been addressed, and I've said multiple times I'm not against helping, it's just not necessary.

Geez, people seriously need to go level and cap their reading comprehension skills.

I read the entire thread, thanks. But I guess stooping to personal insults levels up your reading comprehension skills, amirite?

[Bubeeky]

I don't understand why the new players are having such an issue making money....back years ago, when people like myself started playing, things weren't any easier to figure out...actually it was hard as hell, because wiki wasn't as advanced as it is now, and knowledge about gil making endeavors was a closely guarded secret, yet many of us still managed to figure out how not only to make that gil, but to prosper too.

I'm with all the other crafters on this thread....give us a reason/incentive to make things and we'll do it. I'm always happy to cook up anything that ppl want me to in game, for no charge as long as the person brings me the mats, but I'm not going to waste my time to make maybe 5k with a good bit of effort when there's so many other ways that are more profitable and quicker.

[Kanjitai]

I like to point out that the lack of gear hurts long time players too. I have low level jobs I like to level but can't gear. Also some people think making gil is the issue. it's not it's the lack of gear. you can't buy what's not there.