Do something about the AH and lower level gear????

[chubrocka]

"PLEASE NOT A FLAME POST. IDEA POST"

THIS POST IS IN "NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ABOUT GILL OR CRAFTING". PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC!

Title "Do something about the AH and lower level gear???? "it is a question not a statement"


If you choose to talk about gill or crafting, please make another thread. If you have constructive insight on how SE can help with stocking AH's or offering other type gear/items with NPC's please voice it.========================================================================================================================================

[SIZE="5"]original post[/SIZE].
Ive really noticed a lot that the AH; no matter where you are looking anymore is becoming empty. The reason why I am making this post is to open discussion on how we can all fix this. I'm not saying I'm not part of the problem myself. After playing so long and keeping all my low level gear to transfer to another low level job. I dont sell it off anymore to purchase other gear for another job. ( that missing of selling the gear is a big part of not finding it lol) When all of us started new we relied on the AH for what we couldn't craft or farm. Well what is gonna help those who started playing 1-6 months ago. The AH is BARE!!
Should SE make low level gear available (more beyond basic)?
[SIZE="6"]Again I'm asking for responses and ideas to help make the game bring in and KEEP new blood.[/SIZE]

EDIT ""Look here is another edit. Im not a heavy crafter, im not making this post to say i need this or that. I dont care about your thoughts on crafting or making money.. Im asking for ideas on how to make the AH more full on items We as longtime players have had the luxury of using. The AH is bare. I personally have lost RL friends who started playing the game recent to things that shouldnt be resons for leaving.. One is the lack of things on the AH.. How do we fix it is all im asking.. If we dont come up with ideas that are constructive then how can we ask SE to help us, and how do we expect to keep new players interested and giving there money to SE to help keep our passion going???"""EDIT

Chubrocka

[RaenRyong]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

[chubrocka]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

So this is what?? Dont complain? This thread is for ideas not flaming.

[Greatguardian]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

^ This a thousand times over.

I can craft plenty of low level gear. I don't do it though. Why? Because it's a waste of my time to go hunting for materials and spend 5k to make an armor piece, to put on the AH with a 500g fee (taking up one of my AH slots), when people are just going to complain to high hell if I charge any more than 2k.

RMT are dead. Because of this, the only source for basic materials is other players. Because other players don't go around and harvest nearly as much as RMT did, the supply for these basic materials went down and the prices went up. However, when crafters tried to raise the price of armor to coincide with the price of materials, people flipped shit.

The solution to this is twofold:

1) More low level players need to supply the AH with crafting materials if you expect crafters to make low level gear. We are not going to go out and spend 2 hours mining in Zeruhn just to make gear that sells for 5k.

2) Players need to be willing to pay reasonable prices for armor. I promise, crafters are not trying to jack prices up to rip you off and make 500% profits (at least, most aren't). The majority of price increases on gear come from price increases in materials. It is absolutely not worth my time to craft gear when I am taking a 50% loss by doing so; especially when I can make plenty of gil doing other things instead.

If people are not willing to both supply crafters with materials and to pay for both the materials and the crafter's time (which does include opportunity cost, we could be doing other things if we want gil), then sales will not happen.

[RAIST]

^ This a thousand times over.

I can craft plenty of low level gear. I don't do it though. Why? Because it's a waste of my time to go hunting for materials and spend 5k to make an armor piece, to put on the AH with a 500g fee (taking up one of my AH slots), when people are just going to complain to high hell if I charge any more than 2k.

RMT are dead. Because of this, the only source for basic materials is other players. Because other players don't go around and harvest nearly as much as RMT did, the supply for these basic materials went down and the prices went up. However, when crafters tried to raise the price of armor to coincide with the price of materials, people flipped shit.

The solution to this is twofold:

1) More low level players need to supply the AH with crafting materials if you expect crafters to make low level gear. We are not going to go out and spend 2 hours mining in Zeruhn just to make gear that sells for 5k.

2) Players need to be willing to pay reasonable prices for armor. I promise, crafters are not trying to jack prices up to rip you off and make 500% profits (at least, most aren't). The majority of price increases on gear come from price increases in materials. It is absolutely not worth my time to craft gear when I am taking a 50% loss by doing so; especially when I can make plenty of gil doing other things instead.

If people are not willing to both supply crafters with materials and to pay for both the materials and the crafter's time (which does include opportunity cost, we could be doing other things if we want gil), then sales will not happen.

or they could... idk.. take the initiative and directly provide the materials they get off mobs to the crafters in the LS. We are constantly seeing people in the shell ask if anyone has WW leveled to make shihei. They make/provide the ink/parchment/crystals. The usual fee is one stack of the results to use/AH.

I also leveled cooking/synergy. The BST in shell continually send me mats to make their pets. Takes me a few minutes to make them a stack (two synths tops). Ask for help sometime, you might be surprised...

[Gunit]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

This or Craft your self, Or leech to 90.

[Runespider]

I have numerous high level crafts on various chars, I haven't been near a craft synth since a while after the introduction of Abyssea.

Gil isn't anywhere near as needed as it was, so you don't have dedicated crafters crafting to make money. I haven't spent any money on anything at all except shihei for 6-7 months...aside from a handful of NPC bought scrolls (abyssea chest drops sold to npc more than covered these).

Crafting is dead, currently there is very little point to craft or raise one, many basic armor synths were cheap and stocked well on the AH cause they were skillups synths. Taking a craft up now is stupid since aside from the reasons already mentioned, HQ gear is useless and even one of the old reasons people crafted (making signed +1 armor for themselves) is now pointless cause everything you can synth is crap compared to Aby drops.

So many people leech in Abyssea now where you need no gear that demand is way down anyway.

All these things together means they need to make a new sub category on the AH for NPC sold armors, they aren't screwing the crafters cause nobody makes them or cares anymore. If they destroy the need for gil, allow very popular leeching and kill crafting they need to fix it so players can actually get gear from the NPCs and for the prices to not be stupid high.

[Krystal]

I have numerous high level crafts on various chars, I haven't been near a craft synth since a while after the introduction of Abyssea.

Gil isn't anywhere near as needed as it was, so you don't have dedicated crafters crafting to make money. I haven't spent any money on anything at all except shihei for 6-7 months...aside from a handful of NPC bought scrolls (abyssea chest drops sold to npc more than covered these).

Crafting is dead, currently there is very little point to craft or raise one, many basic armor synths were cheap and stocked well on the AH cause they were skillups synths. Taking a craft up now is stupid since aside from the reasons already mentioned, HQ gear is useless and even one of the old reasons people crafted (making signed +1 armor for themselves) is now pointless cause everything you can synth is crap compared to Aby drops.

So many people leech in Abyssea now where you need no gear that demand is way down anyway.

All these things together means they need to make a new sub category on the AH for NPC sold armors, they aren't screwing the crafters cause nobody makes them or cares anymore. If they destroy the need for gil, allow very popular leeching and kill crafting they need to fix it so players can actually get gear from the NPCs and for the prices to not be stupid high.

Good lord above...if THIS is not enough proof that abyssea is killing the game...idk what the heck else to say....-_-;

[Sayelle]

Good lord above...if THIS is not enough proof that abyssea is killing the game...idk what the heck else to say....-_-;

Crafting was pretty much dead long before abyssea came out aside from a few profitable synths and consumables like food and ninja tools anyway. Low level gear hasn't actively been made by the crafting community since probably about 2005. The entire crafting/synergy system needs a drastic overhaul and it has little to do with abyssea.

[Ayasha]

It's not a flame, it's the truth. Crafters won't make something that isn't worth their time to make. It's simple economics. Demand is low for low tier items, so there's no necessity or incentive to make them. If all you want is for SE to make it easy for you to obtain low level gear, you're barking up the wrong tree. There's two options available: Make it yourself, or offer crafters something worth their while to spend their time to make said item.

There's also PLENTY of alternatives to the AH out there. Bounding Boots and Empress Hairpin (for example) for almost all jobs that can use, and get use out of them will wear them up to the point where the next stage of rare/ex gear is available. AF gear is easy to get, and free (for the most part). And there's plenty of Rare - Rare/Ex weapons that are relatively easy to obtain. The way to fix things isn't to make it EASIER to get gear. The fault falls on the player base for not wanting to put forth the effort to get what they want.