BLU Balance

[detlef]

Ha. Mnk has been left out in the cold basically since delve 2. Kind of funny but it's kind of a worse pup now when before was the opposite. Likewise brd has been out of favor since they first started buffing geo... well that and fights/fights made rotating brds or prebuffing and dropping less good

By that I meant that people should be focusing their energy on getting those jobs buffed. They are both obviously in a bad place right now.

[Afania]

By that I meant that people should be focusing their energy on getting those jobs buffed. They are both obviously in a bad place right now.

If you like to see people complain about MNK and BRD, why don't you just focus some of your energy on creating another thread called "MNK and BRD balance"? That'd get the result you want.

[Stamos]

I have said, and will continue to say I don't think BLU deserves a nerf. If it was breaking the game by exploiting something I would absolutely agree with Afania's crusade. The whole capping haste aspect is fairly irrelevant on dual wield jobs. You can cap delay on all the jobs that have natural dual wield.

If they were to nerf something, it should be CDC. That is the aspect that changed things really. It isn't the strongest weaponskill, but it isn't very far behind the strongest WS and it is the most skillchain friendly.

The PUG aspect of this discussion is laughable to me, if you're going to play with bad player that is not the developers fault, that is the players fault. Make your own party, make some friends. If you want to join a PUG, it is the leader's rules. If you don't like that aspect once again, make your own party.

[Vae]

If it was breaking the game...

See, but it -is- breaking the game. If more than half the people are all playing the same job when there is 15 different options, something is very clearly broken. This is an obvious fact. It isn't debatable.

Nothing was inherently broken about crits in 2012 when ukko's and Vsmite were nerfed. They were just too popular. We do more damage and higher crit rates than we would've ever dreamed of 4 years ago.

[Stamos]

That is quite the exaggeration on your part on half. Right now on Leviathan there is 326 people online, 53 are Blue Mage. Which is 16.2% or so. Being popular does not equate broken.


That was a different time in the game, just like Kiaru posting about how at 75 Blu had 10% magic haste. You have to put it in perspective. Back at 75, a lot of jobs didn't cap gear haste. The game has evolved, the level cap has been raised.

[Vae]

That is quite the exaggeration on your part on half. Right now on Leviathan there is 326 people online, 53 are Blue Mage.

Of the DD, not the total population. And discount /anon.

Being popular does not equate broken.

To square it does. It's damaging to mmo population. Variety is why ~15 DD jobs exist.

[Stamos]

Just because they made a decision four years ago under different Developers, doesn't mean that applies now. Like I said, perspective. The game is far different than it was even four years ago.

[Vae]

It still applies now or they would obviously revoke the nerf. It's that status quo. MNK would benefit quite a bit from revoking that Vsmite nerf.

[Stamos]

No one debates that H2H in general is awful right now. So, basically you don't think the job is broken, you think it is popular so it should be nerf'd. Okay

[Vae]

I know no one likes to admit it but MNK -should- be at the bottom. It was the top for a long damn time. Punching something does alot less theoretical damage than a giant axe. (not that logic has ever held a place in fantasy).

BLU is -absolutely- broken. its traits are broken. cdc is broken. survivabilty is broken. self haste and MG are broken. I said that all already. But even if you can't agree on that you know and so does everyone else the popular job GETS nerfed. End of story. It's going to happen. the question is when. It not just an ff thing. its a qol thing for all players of all games.