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  1. #131
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    It is only a matter of respect towards the players and no one in their right mind should agree with this decision.

    FFXI is the most financially successful FF of all times, almost none of this money went back to the game. You do not say "only small updates from now on" all the while asking for players to pay for options and keeping the same subscription fee as before. This game cannot be developed anymore.
    Since the end of Rhapsodies we've been getting the laziest updates ever, Ambuscade is lazy and easy to program, the "quests" we got lately are terrible.
    I cannot believe people say amen to their decision to add fee-based options when we are still paying full price for the game. SE never cared about FFXI, they never upgraded the game, they never took care of it.
    The only thing they know is that people love this game and those who still play now will not leave because of nostalgia and their love to Vana'diel. I do love Vana'diel myself, FFXI is the game of my life but out of principles I will let my account run and never come back if this is where they're going.

    If, and only if, they at least explained what was their plan about this decision, like plans to upgrade the game or whatever, maybe I could have accepted this but there is no way anyone should agree with this when taking everything into consideration.

    They have people who are paid to find ways to milk players, do not think that this will stop here, mounts are coming, trusts are coming, etc.. And even more augmentable stuff to crack your gobbie bags.
    I do not care at all if I get banned, all I'm going to say is that I worked for SE Europe and they do not care at all about the players, they became experts at lying and manipulating and that is exactly why I left.

    We are talking about a company who sells rehashed games on iOS and Android for incredible prices, a company who's been working on FFXV for ten years but will offer buyable content for this game on top of a 250$ special edition, a company who's rolling on the gacha games fever, a company who's handling FFXIV, one of the laziest MMO, where everything is made to milk the players and force them to keep paying their sub, and now a company who is insulting loyal players of a fourteen years old game by adding fee-based options all the while asking for full sub price and saying "we will do the bare minimal updates from now on".

    FFXI deserved better than this, FFXI actually deserves better than SE, the true lovers of this game at SE are long gone.

    The fact that so many people agree with all this optional fee-based non-sense is scary and worrying of a gaming industry already in a terrible state. They are not making you a favor by offering these options, YOU are making them the favor of playing this game and paying full sub for it even though they said they would work as little as possible on it with their skeleton team, don't let them trick you into even more than that, this is exactly what they want.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    First off, which cash shop are you talking about? This is an extra subscription option in the buy new content ID section of playonline. There is no cash shop.
    It's a different name but it's the same thing. It doesn't matter if we make the purchase directly through the website or go to the website to buy Imperial Titanium Pieces, which are dbox'd to us, and then make a purchas in game with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    It's a different name but it's the same thing. It doesn't matter if we make the purchase directly through the website or go to the website to buy Imperial Titanium Pieces, which are dbox'd to us, and then make a purchas in game with it.
    So your character was bought on the "cash shop", got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    So your character was bought on the "cash shop", got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    So your character was bought on the "cash shop", got it.
    You're trying too hard.

    My character is part of my subscription--whether they say Subscription + slot for a dollar or Subscription, one dollar more expensive + 1 free slot--makes no difference. Mules, from the outset, have been a purchasable option but I must say that if SE said "For $2 for each of these slots, you can buy MORE MULES", I wouldn't care. That's upfront and honest.

    This is entirely different and you know it, you just refuse to give any ground.
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    Or perhaps it would make you feel better to think that he did indeed buy his naked, level 1 hume warrior with 0 gil on the cash shop 10+ years ago? I mean, I'm ok if you want to think that, since every single player in XI's history had to make that initial purchase to play, haha.
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    Planetside 1 closed down a few days ago, after 13 years of service. I wonder if that games playerbase was as self entitled as some xi players and would now squabble over a optional $4 monthly charge to help keep it running?

    http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/17/119...k-game-company
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    Planetside 1 closed down a few days ago, after 13 years of service. I wonder if that games playerbase was as self entitled as some xi players and would now squabble over a optional $4 monthly charge to help keep it running?

    http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/17/119...k-game-company
    I didn't know anything about this game, it took me one minute to find out that:
    - it's a F2P.
    - it has a cash shop.
    - it has an optional sub.

    And as you said, it's closing. Now put the pieces together and answer your own question. I don't even know what this has to do with FFXI's subscription model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanfrano View Post
    I didn't know anything about this game, it took me one minute to find out that:
    - it's a F2P.
    - it has a cash shop.
    - it has an optional sub.

    And as you said, it's closing. Now put the pieces together and answer your own question. I don't even know what this has to do with FFXI's subscription model.
    Yeah.. Heh, I think a little communication like I said earlier would go a long way. A road map, where the money is going and why, I am sure if people saw more content, zones, or what ever it is people want, they would be happy to give money! Look at um..kick starter and such, people and companies have a lot of luck on there, and why? Because they are open, honest and show you what EXACTLY you're getting for your donations/money.

    But just doing stuff with no word why and what is happening...well of course you'll have unhappy folks. As with any other type of relationship in life, communication is key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesil View Post
    Yeah.. Heh, I think a little communication like I said earlier would go a long way. A road map, where the money is going and why, I am sure if people saw more content, zones, or what ever it is people want,
    I would like this as well.

    [If they saw these things] they would be happy to give money!
    I agree, but not on things actually related to gameplay and inventory is central to this game. As I've said before, gold crab or ufo mount for sale? No problem, that's awesome! I probably won't buy it (okay, I might buy a ufo mount...) but I won't be disappointed at their introduction. Inventory or--completely hypothetically speaking--double CP potions, better trusts, purchasable weapons, and I would consider that a disgrace.
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